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MY LITTLE SOG GOES 1000W
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JWP
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one Q, you do know that the fact it reversed at all means its intersex and the progeny will be a far cry from the mother? His holy grail will be destroyed! Best to keep 1 cut.
He doesnt know what he is doing, thats why he is doing this to start with. Read up on how all the other countless s1's are going right now lol. They arnt going right now, they have been scraped or hey are just crap..
If you get an intersex plant to self in any way it doesnt matter if you make it express its intersex genes and polinate itself on 1 plant or if u take a cut and use CS to make the cut express intersex and pollinate the original (still intersexed) plant. The results are the same!
AfroSheep
I am who I am coz I is who I is.
im not quite for what JWP is on about, but i always thought, reversing sex, and then polinating a female with the reversed sexed she/man created feminised seeds, and then if you do it another few times the seeds get better.
Im not 100% sure, but thats how i always heard of the big seedgrowers making fem seeds, stressing plants to throw a nana in some way, and then targeting some nice females.
Im not 100% sure, but thats how i always heard of the big seedgrowers making fem seeds, stressing plants to throw a nana in some way, and then targeting some nice females.
I am not quite sure what your getting at JWP. The colloidal silver sprayed plants are clones from the plants that are targeted for pollination. The solution has forced the sprayed plants to reverse sex. The sprayed plants and the target plants are genetically identical. The daughter is about to fuck it's mother.
This plant has never displayed hermie tendencies and has been stressed to the max in the past. A chemical has forced the reversal of a very stable strain, there will be no hermie traits passed on.
Both the sprayed plants and target plants contain the identical XX chromosome. However in this case we are forcing one to produce pollen. This pollen, if produced will form seeds containing only the XX chromosomes of the original mother plant. Thus feminized seed is produced identical to the original.
This is a clone only strain and at this stage I do not want to cross it with another variety and go down the back crossing track. As it is clone only I am trying to save it from potential disaster in the future.
BUT IF IT ALL GOES TO SHIT I STILL HAVE THESE, 30 MOTHER PLANTS!
We will just have to wait and see what happens and I will do a germination trial if seed is produced.
And one more thing, if we didn't experiment we wouldn't go anywhere. Colloidal silver, STS and GA 3 have been used for quite a while now to produce feminized seed. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. One must never be afraid to try something different. Just look at the thread, Defoliation: High-Yield Technique, now that has turned over a hornet's nest.
Indeed Afro, except the seeds will not get better, they will be identical to the original mum immediately. The beauty of this strain is that it has never hermied under stress. One should not use a plant with stress induced hermie tendencies to create feminized seed. This strain will only reverse when chemicals are applied. The perfect candidate.
luv wat ur doin man lots of nannas which is a good sign that ur on the rite track. r there any signs of viable pollen yet? i hope all works out for u coz it sounds like u got a stable strain for this type of experiment.
No sign of a pollen drop yet benjuanman, reversed plants don't produce pollen bombs like normal males apparently. So I just beat the main plants together each day with a fan circulating constantly to spread the love. The she/males will grow until they die..
Just because I can drive Kenworth trucks doesn't mean I'm a bloke.
Well, I only drive a cargo van, so I admire the ability to whip around a bigboy.
Keep it up! even if this dude IS right, some things are best learned from personal exp.
@JWP- The issue with posts like yours is you tend to come off like an
cause you feel you "know" something. You assume that everyone else doesn't know what YOU know. Im glad you weren't a dick about it but I hope you don't let it get to the point where this thread is ruined by your Know-It-All attitude.
MY POINT? Let;s keep the peace and all watch HC do what many are doing or wanting to do. Let's all learn from this. IF HighCountry is successful and his seeds give strong Females with no herm issues, then we all get something from his work.
Yes one Q, this is a friendly thread, JWP was just giving an opinion and that is fine. The comments made were not bitter and twisted like you see in some threads so I have no problems with them. However I believe they are wrong, the genetics will not change.Well, I only drive a cargo van, so I admire the ability to whip around a bigboy.
Keep it up! even if this dude IS right, some things are best learned from personal exp.
@JWP- The issue with posts like yours is you tend to come off like an
Im glad you weren't a dick about it but I hope you don't let it get to the point where this thread is ruined by your Know-It-All attitude.
MY POINT? Let;s keep the peace and all watch HC do what many are doing or wanting to do. Let's all learn from this. IF HighCountry is successful and his seeds give strong Females with no herm issues, then we all get something from his work.
And one Q, a big Kenworth is easy to drive once you get the hang of using an 18 speed Eaton/Fuller road ranger gear box, no synchro, it's all double de-clutching.
a big Kenworth is easy to drive once you get the hang of using an
LOL.
I didnt think JWP was being gross, but I just dont want to see 2 pages of dumb and then KharmaGirl or someone gotta come up in here and force everyone to hug.
Leeroy&Co:
Active member
Makes for interesting reading anyway
I hope your strain holds true for ya HC
I hope your strain holds true for ya HC
a big Kenworth is easy to drive once you get the hang of using an
LOL.
I didnt think JWP was being gross, but I just dont want to see 2 pages of dumb and then KharmaGirl or someone gotta come up in here and force everyone to hug.
No KharmaGirl hugging allowed but she is also entitled, like everyone else, to express their opinion on this thread. This is all just a big experiment. But I don't tolerate abuse or fools who don't back up what they are saying. I've got no problems with JWP. He or she said they have trouble putting their comments into words and I can understand that, no dramas.
One must also remember one Q when driving a big Kenworth you are in a potential killing machine. If you or a car hits you at speed all the occupants of the car will be dead, guaranteed, but I could probably walk away. I am always eternally vigilant and very straight while operating these machines. I seem to have more issues with my KTM dirt bike, I'm always dropping that......damm.
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still
i think what JWP is trying to say is once u go back to seed form u might start getting different phenos from each seed i hope he is wrong cause i want to do what u are doing very soon with a strain that looks similar to yours HC fingers crossed i am watching and hoping for the results we all want
Just have to get pollination. But maybe there is a better phenotype. I reckon this is an excellent breeding plant because of it's very reliable characteristics.
Makes for interesting reading anyway
I hope your strain holds true for ya HC
I'm still going fishing if it fails or works.
Scorpion_au
New member
I think JWP is going to have to explain more. As far as I can tell it's pretty basic genetics that HC is going to end up with seeds that are exactly identical to the clones. Not phenos, no weirdness, exactly the same. Maybe I'm not remembering my 1st year biology stuff, but here's how I see it...
Each piece of DNA can have four states. A, C, G and T. Read the wikipedia article on genetics for the details. Say our (trivial) example plant only has 6 pieces in it's DNA. Plant 1 (call it the father) has a state of AAACGT. Plant 2 (the mother) is AACCGG. When they mate, you get a random selection of either piece from plant 1 or plant 2 in each gene location. In this case, the possible combinations would be:
1st gene: Father = A, Mother = A, therefore child MUST be A
2nd gene: A, A = A
3rd gene: Father = A, Mother = C, therefore some children will be A, some C
4th gene: Both C
5th gene: Both G
6th gene: T or G
So mating these two plants would give you four possible variations (phenotypes):
AAACGT (same as father)
AAACGG
AACCGT
AACCGG (same as mother)
Now, consider what's happening here with the colloidal silver. Plant 1 is now a father but the genetics HAVE NOT CHANGED. So lets say it's DNA sequence is AAACGT. Plant 2 is the mother, but it's the same plant. The genetics are AAACGT. Put the two together, and the ONLY POSSIBLE COMBINATION is AAACGT. There will not be any variation, as there is not any possible extra options to choose from.
Each piece of DNA can have four states. A, C, G and T. Read the wikipedia article on genetics for the details. Say our (trivial) example plant only has 6 pieces in it's DNA. Plant 1 (call it the father) has a state of AAACGT. Plant 2 (the mother) is AACCGG. When they mate, you get a random selection of either piece from plant 1 or plant 2 in each gene location. In this case, the possible combinations would be:
1st gene: Father = A, Mother = A, therefore child MUST be A
2nd gene: A, A = A
3rd gene: Father = A, Mother = C, therefore some children will be A, some C
4th gene: Both C
5th gene: Both G
6th gene: T or G
So mating these two plants would give you four possible variations (phenotypes):
AAACGT (same as father)
AAACGG
AACCGT
AACCGG (same as mother)
Now, consider what's happening here with the colloidal silver. Plant 1 is now a father but the genetics HAVE NOT CHANGED. So lets say it's DNA sequence is AAACGT. Plant 2 is the mother, but it's the same plant. The genetics are AAACGT. Put the two together, and the ONLY POSSIBLE COMBINATION is AAACGT. There will not be any variation, as there is not any possible extra options to choose from.
