my latest conspiracy theory...

[armedoldhippy]

could there be sufficient RINO holdovers hiding in the GOP today to try to thread the needle, getting The Chump elected, but deliberately lose the house to let them keep rein on his malignity , but throw his dreams of power under a passing bushhog ... ???

 

[Phytoplankton]

IMHO, more likely the other way.

 

[buzzmobile]

The 25th Amendment is invoked after the election and inauguration then President JD Vance steps in.

 

[armedoldhippy]

The 25th Amendment is invoked after the election and inauguration then President JD Vance steps in.

i can't decide if that scenario is more or less scary...

 

[buzzmobile]

i can't decide if that scenario is more or less scary...

Give it some time to develop.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Give it some time to develop.

that's a lot like having your oncologist say "let's give that tumor in your brain a few weeks to grow and metastasize while i go on vacation.....

 

[BudToaster]

must not be turbo cancer

 

[Hiddenjems]

Vance is literally the only person involved in the current presidential race that can articulate how he plans to help lower to middle income non college educated labor workers.

The dems have abandoned class based politics.

 

[audiohi]

Vance is literally the only person involved in the current presidential race that can articulate how he plans to help lower to middle income non college educated labor workers.

The dems have abandoned class based politics.

More Federal Jobs Without College Degrees Under Harris​

Vice President Kamala Harris proposed getting rid of college degree requirements for 500,000 federal jobs.​

​

https://www.businessinsider.com/fed...degree-student-debt-kamala-harris-plan-2024-9

"We will double the number of registered apprenticeships by the end of my first term," Harris said during her remarks. "Eliminate degree requirements while increasing skills development for half a million federal jobs. And challenge our private sector to make a similar commitment to emphasizing skills, not just degrees."

Your turn.

What's one thing Vance has articulated that he's going to do to help lower to middle income non college educated labor workers as vice president?

 

[Hiddenjems]

More Federal Jobs Without College Degrees Under Harris​

Vice President Kamala Harris proposed getting rid of college degree requirements for 500,000 federal jobs.​

​

https://www.businessinsider.com/fed...degree-student-debt-kamala-harris-plan-2024-9




Your turn.

What's one thing Vance has articulated that he's going to do to help lower to middle income non college educated labor workers as vice president?

Get rid of the illegals that suppress wages and increase housing costs.(this was democrat policy before identity politics).

I’m talking about people that lift heavy things in the woods. Not an office job that no longer requires a degree.

 

[Hiddenjems]

How will Kamala help a coal miner have job security? I live in coal country.

 

[audiohi]

I’m talking about people that lift heavy things in the woods. Not an office job that no longer requires a degree.

How will Kamala help a coal miner have job security? I live in coal country.

Maybe that specific person can get a job with you?

I run a business that provides a service that isn’t necessary.

oh wait... your business is coal, isn't it?

 

[Hiddenjems]

Maybe that specific person can get a job with you?



oh wait... your business is coal, isn't it?

Your attitude toward hard working people mirrors the mocking tone of the Democratic Party.

“Kamala Harris is for they/them, Donald trump is for you”

Sounds like the ads are right.

 

[buzzmobile]

How will Kamala help a coal miner have job security?

A look at the role of coal in this year's election

The United Mine Workers of America says neither presidential candidate has focused much on coal in the 2024 election.

spectrumnews1.com

Erin Bates [Director of Communications UMWA], with the United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) says she hasn’t heard either candidate focus on coal in the 2024 election.


“It’s not necessarily a federal regulated issue here that’s causing these plants to shut down,” said Bates. “Utility companies are not using coal as much. And so it is a situation where regardless of what the presidential candidate says, if the utility companies are not going to use it, they’re not going to have any economy.” . . .
The UMWA hasn’t endorsed Trump or Harris, Bates said.


“Neither candidate has really been able to sit down and tell us what they’re willing to offer the coal miners,” she said.


Bates said she would like to hear how the candidates would preserve current jobs, find new ones for workers losing theirs and rebuild communities impacted by plant closures.

Spectrum News asked both campaigns for more information on the candidates’ policy positions on coal.

The Harris campaign did not respond.

The Trump campaign said, “Under President Trump’s leadership, the United States will commit to slashing energy and electricity prices bringing your energy bills down by 50%-70%.”

Kamala Harris calls for US critical minerals reserve, tax credits

The plan, part of a $100 billion industrial policy vision, also called for the use of emergency government powers under the Cold War-era Defense Production Act.

www.mining.com

Coal miners may join buggy whip makers.

 

[audiohi]

Your attitude toward hard working people mirrors the mocking tone of the Democratic Party.

“Kamala Harris is for they/them, Donald trump is for you”

Sounds like the ads are right.

no one wanting to buy coal and the workers losing their jobs is called capitslism

are you mocking capitalism?

 

[armedoldhippy]

Vice President Kamala Harris proposed getting rid of college degree requirements for 500,000 federal jobs.

damn good idea. very few jobs actually entail using anything you might have gotten a degree for. i have an engineering degree...worked as a welder over thirty-five years. fuck a degree unless you are designing bridges, space-craft, or going into medicine. JMHO

Bates said she would like to hear how the candidates would preserve current jobs.

jobs come and go, not the POTUS's job to protect them. reality marches on...

The Trump campaign said, “Under President Trump’s leadership, the United States will commit to slashing energy and electricity prices bringing your energy bills down by 50%-70%.”

The Chump says a LOT of shit which he (nor anyone else) can actually do.

Coal miners may join buggy whip makers.

that WILL prevent Black Lung (and other diseases) finally. good stuff, buzz!

 

[Hiddenjems]

no one wanting to buy coal and the workers losing their jobs is called capitslism

are you mocking capitalism?

People want cheap electric. The government is regulating coal out of the market driving up prices. That’s not capitalism.

 

[audiohi]

People want cheap electric. The government is regulating coal out of the market driving up prices. That’s not capitalism.

US natgas will be cheaper than coal in 2024 for the first time, EIA says​

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...han-coal-2024-first-time-eia-says-2024-04-09/

In 2024, spot gas prices at the U.S. Henry Hub benchmark in Louisiana will average just $2.15 per million British thermal units (mmBtu) versus $2.45 for coal, EIA said.

Capitalism in action

 

[Hiddenjems]

US natgas will be cheaper than coal in 2024 for the first time, EIA says​

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...han-coal-2024-first-time-eia-says-2024-04-09/




Capitalism in action

What does Kamala have to say to the crews clearing the way for natural gas pipelines, that are half illegals and increasing?

We can go all day with this. I live in a gas and oil area, I personally know people that went from making $30 an hour laboring to half that if they want to do the work.

 

[Hiddenjems]

There are legitimate reasons for people to vote for either candidate.