My first time

[Gangsta Lean]

im no expert but i'd say
it was a cal and Potassium
make sure ur PH is on point my dude

Having to little of Potassium in your plants causes the plants leaves to show retarded growth and show a scorched tip and edges around the leaves

and dino there are plenty of vets using 100% coco
check out the coco section the proof is there

 

[DinoHanf]

no i beleve u about the 100% coco, i was going from what the dude and hydro shop told me..

My ph is 5,8-6,1 i have digi meter and the non digi, i always double check it..but tnx for ur imput bro.

 

[-VT-]

Personally, I kinda think immobile nutrients are building up (aka "salt buildup", overfert) and locking shit out.....I'd back off the nutes....is that chart for coco coir?

I am no diagnosis expert.....half the time I never know what the heck is wrong with my plants that are locked out.....I just know what works in fixing the problem (flushing, foliar feeding, and adjusting the rootzone feeding)...and have documented grows with pics to phukkin prove it

I cannot enumerate all nutes that are immobile...but when the deficiency is scattered and not uniform, it's immobile....which means something is locked out.....and if you're sure it's NOT pH...then some immobile nute may have accumulated to toxic levels and locked other shit out

And don't blame it on the nutes.....
hope your "first time" is a huge success with dank nugs
Good luck!

 

[DinoHanf]

Tnx alot on ur imput VT


The chart is specific for the fox farm nutes i got 1 side is for hydro the other side for soil. Comes with nutes, the dude at the store told me(u know how they say go half the strenght) that its already adjusted to that half strenght(the chart) and ez goes up.And i was going by the chart althoug when i put on 18 gallons of water w/e chart tells me to put in, the ppm's comes to like 600 less ppm's than what the chart says. Thats where i mess up somewhere. Couse i add than 2 Tsp of Tiger bloom and 1Tbs of Guano grow big wich chart sugest's to do per galon. Than i check ppm again and i do so till i reach ppm wich chart recommends for that week. Im' prety sure i messed up there, a day before those pictures were taken i flushed the plants 2 times (1 time each day) with ph-ed water, no nutes. Not sure if they got hungry and started getting sick maybe(just a gues) or what the heck is going on.and the second post pictures are in flowering room 1st day, i flushed that coco 4 times before i put them there and each time i flushed it i waited 1 day till the coco dryes under the 1kw lamp before i flushed it again.

the 1st picture post is vegg room, they are 6 days younger than the plants in my flowering room on their they 1 in flowering. Maybe the transplant into bigger pots shocked them 2 a little bit... The Veg room plants , leaves that were yellow lil bit, are now yellow all the way and getting dry brownish but the leavs above it look just fine.
Today i fed them with less nut. than the chart says. Chart says do 1300-1400 i did 1350 total. Ok need 1 more thing cleared. My tap water, wich is what i use, has 380 ppm. the dude at the store told me that when i calculate my ppm's i have to do like 380 plus 1200, if i wana have 1200 ppms of food in there. True or fals?? I wasnt sure if that was true so i was doing it this way. Lets say chart says 1200 i did 1200 with my water. Didnt want to do the way he said couse all i kept hearing in my head was "better little bit less than little bit more"
Been kind of stressed out couse of this whole deffic. thing, lol. I realy realy want to get a good crop first time, But considering i only got space for 24 plants and i have 48 now(dunno sex) im hoping i get at least 20 nice healthy plants in the end.

sorry for not writing this earlier and explaining more of how noob i am in this whole growing skill. I realy hope i get more imput now on the sicnkess of my plants and i will update new pictures in 2-3 days till some changes happend
And sorry again for misspelling.

tnx

 

[Gangsta Lean]

when u mix with tap, the ppms of the tap is includes in ur desired ppm
so dont do 380 plus 1200, that guy who told u is an idiot lol

and also what kinda meter do u have
u could have a .5 or a .7 conversion
this could b y ur ppms are not matching the chart

now that u explained ur situation a lil bit better
i agree with VT about the overferting

 

[DinoHanf]

Tnx Bear, Gangsta.

Ok i wasn't sure about it, thank god i went lower than the chart said.So the 380 is included not excluded. Couse the first time i talk to the dude he was like well whats ppm, i was like 850, (first week) he was like with ur tapwater or without, i was like with , he was like oo ur starving those plants. mhm

well day 2 in flowering i just woke up so im not sure how they look,lol but they smell good, one of my budha is showing lil white hairs super happy, and the temp in my closet didnt go over 81,5F for the whole day yesterday wich was great, when i was testing it without the plants it was 3-4 F higher.PH didnt lock, when i feed my babys and than check the ph in rezervoir its the same as before the feeding, maybe 0.1-0.2 higher, but PPm's drop about 50 after feeding.I triple check the PH now with both meters before i water them just to be on the safe side. I use the lil bottles that u drip 4-5 drops in lil see trough cap and compare collors and i use digital PH meter also.

 

[HeadyPete]

I will agree with the consensus that you have fert burn. Those little brown spots and crispy parts are telltale signs.

Don't listen to the hydro guy, listen to your plants. Some strains are more sensitive, some like more food, depends on temps, size of plant, amount of light yada yada yada...Absolutely the minerals in your tap water count as nutrients and add to your 1200....that hydro guy is an idiot.

Those are still small plants so they will not handle the full nutes for a mid sized girl....

You want to find the nice spot where the leaf tips are just showing a little burn at the ends, but not getting the spotting or crispy splotches on your leaves....this assumes your ph is always correct.

They should grow out of that burn as they get bigger and there is more plant to utilize the same amount of nutes.

I use BioBizz organics in coco soil and I followed the recommend nute sched (1 ml/L gro) and it was too hot, combined with my pre-ferted soil mix (worm casting, kelp, BB PreMix). Especially too hot for my moms under low CFL light, so I halved the gro and all is well. The bottle says 2-3ml/L and says safe for everyday watering...never believe what you read, always verify for yourself. Their test plot under 1k lights will always take more fert than yours or mine under 150, 400 or even 600.

Good luck.

 

[DinoHanf]

Pete tnx alot for ur imput.

Im gona go to the hydro shop and >>>> that dude.
Im definitly gona back off the nutes.And what about the yellowing in the veg room plants. Thats not Nute burn right? First they start to yellow than end up looking dry yellow/brownish. But there is no burn on them just str8 up Yellow.Could it be M def?

Anyways 2nd day into flowering and we have our first lady i beleve.
See what u guys think?
This is Budha.

 

[Gangsta Lean]

congratulations lol

 

[DinoHanf]

tnx bro here few hours later and 1 ww and 1 bb are showing hairs as well.

Is this suposed to mean anything, Every time i water my older plants(in flower.) ppm's drops for about 100 down. Not sure why, if any1 can help explain pls. Ty.

 

[Gangsta Lean]

well if u monitor ur ppms over time in coco
u can find the sweet spot for ur plants nutrient uptake

if ppms lowers that means they are takin in more nutes than water - so can up the nutes a lil
if ppms rise than they are takin n more water and dumpin the nutes - back down on the nutes
so u gotta find a happy point where the ppms stay the same

 

[HeadyPete]

Hi,

That yellowing on your veg plants is lack of Nitrogen.

They are getting big for those cups and it doesn't look like there is a lot of coco in there. It's easy to flush out N. Increase your gro nutes a little and top those cups up with coco, it will hold more nutes for your plants. If they dry out too much between watering then they can experience N def as well, but they need more nutes. They need transplanting soon....

The flowering plants got burned from too much nutes, the vegging plants are lacking N. See how the seesaw works? Each plant will tell you what it needs, you just have to listen.

 

[DinoHanf]

tnx a lot gangsta and pete, now things are making more sence .

 

[DinoHanf]

Tnx alot bear

I had total of 50 seeds 48 sprouted about 6 were looking kind of weak so i trew them away. I got about 15-20 females well 15 for sure but 5 have not showen sex yet and still got 3 more vegin, Plus i picked out 3 mom's beside those 15 females. The momas were only 3-4 days into flowering when the first hairs showed and i pulled them back into Veg, room(18/6) I was wondering if these moms gona bud out since there were flowering for 3-4 days, or am i safe from that? Any imput on that would be greatly appriciated.
Anyways here is some pic's of moms, i was gona take the pic from flowering room but they were sleeping so il update that another day. Tnx all Laterz.

 

[DinoHanf]

k out of 24 plants in my flowering room 19 are females and 5 not showing sex, 2 Big bud and 3 jock horror.I got some Budha, WhideWidow and Big bud that ar eshowing small flowers on day 11 of flowering under 1k 150 000 lumens. Temp is 75-77F with Hum-40-60. got 2 quick shots i took today. I still didnt turn my 4 inch fan with the carbon filter on, My friend came n today and said he could smell it in front of the door so im probly gona turn it on tomorow. But when i do that i have close tent/closet door and temp is gona go up to 79-82F. I was gona wait another 10-20 days to start getting cooler outside but i gues i may have to close it and turn it on. Nag champa aint doing it any more Any advice is welcome.




i put the bigger once on the sides. SInce i had 2 diff kind of seed and 1 batch was older 6 days than the other, so i put the older once on the sides and toped them off today hopin the young once will catch up a lil bit.

 

[Dr Dog]

looks female to me

 

[DinoHanf]

ye Dr tnx i got 20 females and 3 jock horros still not showing sex. I dont see any hairs but i dont see any balls either. Its been 12 days since i trw them on 12 12 . How long the latest will they show flowers any1? Does any1 know if jock horro usualy takes a while to show sex or whats up?

Another quastion, i got this see of green looking like thing going, didnt plan it, its just how it came out.I dont have chicken wire or anything like it there now. My quastion is whats the purpose of that chicken wire and whats gona happen in my grow room if i dont put 1 or is it to late to put 1 now? SInce this is my first time i was going with basic growing. tnx if u can answer my quastions.

 

[HeadyPete]

The chicken wire is there to support the buds after the stems grow through it. It is used as Screen Of Green or SCROG. You may not need it if your plants are short enough, or single stem mostly, and may support the cola on it's own. If not, there are many ways to tie up and support your growing buds.

Looks great and be prepared for a major smell issue when those girlz start putting on weight. Get the carbon goin asap. No mistaking that smell in your home.

Good luck!

 

[Connoisseur300]

Very nice grow.

 

[DinoHanf]

tnx for that explenation pete. I am growing big bud ww jock horror and budha. Iv heard that bb buds get realy big and branches have to be tight up. They are now 15 days into flowering ,well some of them some of them a week and youngest once are 4 days. 1 of the big buds looks like it lst'ed its self il have to take a pic of it next week. Her bottom branches are as high as her top branches and they look like a separate plant for it self, Its just amazing to me what the plant does by its self. I will post more pictures next week when i have the final number of females and all the male's out.I got all 4 moms picked out of the bunch so next 1 i can do from clones

Bear tnx for ur imput bro.

Connoisseur300 tnx my friend. Happy high all.