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Mr.Nice fine lineup of Sativa's...

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FreshGenetics

yeah I mean I'm feeling that they're the same lineage (even same parenting not just recipe), but same cutting is a bit of a stretch... if he meant specifically and literally the same plant ;)

Nevil used very specific language.

Jack Herer = SSHaze = Diesel.

Not a stretch at all, Jamie.

Literally the same cut!
 
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FreshGenetics

Been talking to some peeps on Shanti's board that claim that Shanti sells his NHS beans to Sensi Seeds and they sell it as Jack Herer. Not trying to spread false rumors but it is something to :thinking:about...

Who said that shizzle?
 

wayfarer

Member
a gene pool which nurtures such negativity and disrespect is not what i am looking for.

Only problem is FireofKali wasn't negative or disrespectful, which, following your logic, implies Mr. Nice genetics nurtures delusional hypersensitivity as well as spamming and cultishness...
 

JamieShoes

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Nevil used very specific language.

Jack Herer = SSHaze = Diesel.

Not a stretch at all, Jamie.

Literally the same cut!

literally the same cut?


then explain how you make seeds from this singular cut without a 2nd parent (excl selfed)... which by definition must be another cut...



the only possible explanation is the errant use of the word "cut" when strain or cultivar was the intention :)
 

bushweed

Well-known member
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Here's something else he said:

"SAGE I'm just reading on the What to buy thread, the spiel about sage. I smoked that, another name for the same clone, you know J.H. S.S.H. etc.
Some people are so full of shit.
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JamieShoes

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dont get me wrong, I love MNS.. I was just struggling to understand what he was on about in it's original context... made my mind go all wobbly :)
 

Azra'eil

Member
Here's something else he said:

"SAGE I'm just reading on the What to buy thread, the spiel about sage. I smoked that, another name for the same clone, you know J.H. S.S.H. etc.
Some people are so full of shit.
N."


i dont know where you have read this quote but its not nevil words and for me thseeds sage is a cross of big sur holly weed and an afghan.
 

Azra'eil

Member
on the super silver haze being the same thing as jackerrer im not surprised at all, sensi seeds are not honest people in their bizness technik in my opinion, and i dont think that the diesel nevil talked is the same as the diesel, sour diesel, chemdog family ect...
 
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Nick Sand

Can we get a link to the thread where Neville is claiming these things?
 
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FreshGenetics

I've decided to start a new thread. It's a subject close to the hearts of many growers/breeders. It's something we need to take action on, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. We need to put aside our prejudices and ego's in this quest. It's all about the end result.

I'll give you my understanding of how to work with this variety.

As I said before, I got a total of 7 plants from the original seed stock. They were all different. The Original female (the one that I didn't keep a clone of) and Haze male A, may have been siblings, but just as likely not. Yet there was a common Haze like thread among all of them. This tells me that there was likely no pure haze among them. Haze did not improve when put back to itself as I was told and later discovered. People who think that B.C. is the hope for the future ( if it can be resurrected) are likely to be disappointed. A NL5xHzA would be the best mate for it to test this out. Haze males A+C were at best half brothers, but certainly shared a common ancestor, so my guess is that the inbreeding co-efficient to the haze ancestor in Nevil's Haze is at most 37.5%.
So if we want to go back to a Haze hybrid, we are looking for one not directly related to A or C. So don't talk to me about S.S.H. or Jack Herrer or Diesel or Sage (all the same plant). Double up HzC! I'm not saying that excellent plants can't be produced from inbreeding what we have, but we are going for the Ultimate (Grail). If anybody pinches this name I'll be pissed off.
This should start the ball rolling, I'll continue later.
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He's starting threads!
 
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