FoothillFarming
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Looking really good. You got a plan to dry and cure all that herb?
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Mount Zion 2016
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Schnazz #2 is Probably the best option for finding one of that type of flavor!
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Two drying rooms. The shipping container is half the dry space of the big room.
I can dry about 80-100 pounds on a 10-12 day dry in the big room and probably 40-50 pounds in the shipping container on same.
Swamp cooler to keep humidity above 40 and temp beneath 73.
Humidity is usually 50-60% during the day and 60-70% at night.
I will have the whole place filled up by Saturday at 10:30 am. Then break on harvest until Wednesday when racks tbst contain about 10/11 pounds each willl start coming up ready to hand trim on the daily. I will then keep harvesting about 10 pounds a day to fill the rack that I take down to be trimmed u too the whole thing is done. Should work out pretty perfect on timing I'm feeling.
I'll have like 6 permanent trimmers. Then they go into 1/2 gallon mason jars and burping once a day for 20 minutes until the hygrometers ready steady 60-65% Humidity. Then there ready for sale and sealing. I'll use bovedas for short term, then nitrogen seal half my crop for summer sale.
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Next few posts of pics are from like 5-7 days ago.
Mental floss
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Mental floss pics 1/2/3
Bubba kush*jack chimera, most sativa pheno
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Pic 1 sativa pheno bubba Jack from last post.
Pic 2-4 sweet skunk *jack chimera most sativa pheno
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Chimera BC pine skunk*Jack herer.
This is 1 of 2 mothers I kept.
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Schnazzleberry berry #2 chimera latest pheno harvested.
Most stinky plant in outdoor garden, funkiest smells by far. They range from funky musky with light berry smells, to funky fermented rotten fruits, to astringent funky fermented fruits, and the strongest smelling pheno smells like a mountains mans armpit, you really cannot get the Taste out of your mouth from the volcano! Haha but they all smell horrible in the best of ways! Very potent and Clean directed narcotic Stoney high.
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Pic 1/2chimera sweet skunk*blueberry dolce sativa
Pic 3/4 sweet skunk*jack herer chimera
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Dolce sativa sweet skunk*blueberry chimera
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Chimera dolce sativa sweet skunk*blueberry
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Congrats on a great season. Well done. There are some real beauties in your field.
Anything that stands out as far as structure and bud formation?
Peace GG
Anything that stands out as far as structure and bud formation?
Peace GG
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The three crosses of chimera crossed with Blueberry ALL stand out in all categories. I'm getting all his crosses with blueberry next year all phenomenal and unique.
My favorite stand out so far is schnazzleberry #2. I had 7 plants. 2 phenos had odd leaves and growth so only kept 4 maybe 5 mothers. Those 5 are impressive in all departments. Moderate resistance to pm, no product lost to mildew or bud rot, no nutrient deficiencies, very high yields, extremely stinky, good light penetration, good structure on buds and branches. High potency and very unique and enjoyable indica high.
Dolce sativa is equally as impressive but haven't smoked any yet.
BC OG* Jack herer all phenos were good. Perfect hybrid high.
Skunkmans mixed haze are all standout all departments, crazy astringent citrusy cat piss smells. There constantly drenched in hoophouse but still no pm, not a spot.
The standout sativa is cannabiogens Panama. Many phenos high in terpinolene and limonine, very jittery heart pumping high! and pinene in various amounts. Covered in resin, fan leaves even more then any other. All clean exotic sativa smells.
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I got catpiss from the first S1 I did with my thunk.
Great description of the Panama, is it the same Panama from Ace, I wonder.
Great looking garden!
Great description of the Panama, is it the same Panama from Ace, I wonder.
Great looking garden!
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Ya it's the same one from Ace. I believe cannabiogens is an F6 is where Kaiki stopped. I believe Ace has continued on to F10 or F9 of the Panama? I believe the cannabiogens are a little later flowering and a lean more to fluffier buds and ultra sativas that finish flowering in mid November while in the more recent selections I think ace has selected more for early flowering and yield I BELIEVE, but I could be wrong, my Panama from ace last year finished at least 3 weeks earlier then any of these even though it grew and looked like a tropical sativa.
I much prefer the Panama to the destroyer. Stronger smells, more resin, better bud structure, better resistance to Pm. I am diving deeper into Panama seeds next year for sure! Except for skunkmans Super sativa hybrids (haze #5*hunk, haze*skunk, Thai*haze*skunk) Panama is the best sativa available, and there are commercial worthy phenos for people wanting to bring a truly fine pure sativa product to market.
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The best sativa award goes to Panama!! Head and shoulders above the rest.
I kept the 3 best phenos for bud shape, most were kinda gnarly sativa looking. smells found in Panamas include. I don't know if it's the limonine or the combo of terpinolene-limonine-small amount of pinene but the effect is so perfect. All of the phenos have a strong mood enhancing property, they fill your chest with euphoria and flowing energy, some may label it anxiety like, I like the feeling of flowing energy. The most unique effect from the Panama is this general feeling of pleasure. The body effect is not heavy or indica like at all though they do have a UNIQUE hazey-loopy body effect where it can kinda feel like you are no longer attached to your body. For example if out walking on a trail in the woods your body just keeps walking and you feel as though you are not the walker but the one watching and observing the walking. That's how it feels if your very meditative but if unaware the Panama throws your mind also into a "haze", body haze + head haze equals quite the unique and spiritual experience. My wife cannot function at all on Panama. Can't think straight and can't move straight. My best Friend was visiting this weekend and he also concluded the Panama was his favorite sativa, he is a Sativa addict as well.
The smells on Panama were :lemon head candy, lemon cleaner, very clean lemon smell, dull musty lemon, lots of dill, fresh grass, cleaning soap, leather, green tea, lots of floral and blossoms, rose, pine, lime pine, lime, mango and tropical fruits, citrus, incense, pinesol, cardamom, orange.
The effects are all comparable but on a spectrum depending on the smells. The more earthy phenos are more hazey body and a little more dense in effect but ALL phenos I would describe as expansive and freeing and floaty. The more lemon citrus smell the more energetic and up up up.
All have a 100% clean come down.
Punto rosa: smell was lemon lime citrus, rose, flower. 50% flower 50% citrus. Feeling is strong in the brain, hazey head effect, no body, up high but still chill and peaceful, very introspective. Does not have the pleasure in the body effect (hazey loopy body) that Panama has that I love.
Thunk: high builds and builds. Hazey in the head, tingly some on the muscles, feels like a "thunk" over the head. In between expansive freeing euphoria effect and slight denser more zony with body tingles.
Destroyer my pheno I kept had the densest buds and best resistance to pm. Smells were fresh fruit, dill, herbs, leather, tropical citrus fruits, mango, orange. I like the lemony phenos the most. Some have zero lemon. One smells like wood and cedar with no body and an odd up head high, Other more funky but all the effects are 100% clean and up.
Sweet Jack heavy head, heavier than mixed haze, not expansive. Tingly muscle ac not heavy body, zony effect. Starts energetic then levels out into a more zony dense effect.
Mixed haze are 1/3 energetic, 1/3 zony, and 1/3 stony effect. Upbeat but zony with a slight heavy body. Smells were pine, dull muddy citrus, sweet, earth, skunk, funky, musky, herbal. Complex smell. All around high.
Dolce sativa: pine-citrus fruits-funky. Up high with a slight zonyness or dense effect. Numbing body but not heavy.
I kept the 3 best phenos for bud shape, most were kinda gnarly sativa looking. smells found in Panamas include. I don't know if it's the limonine or the combo of terpinolene-limonine-small amount of pinene but the effect is so perfect. All of the phenos have a strong mood enhancing property, they fill your chest with euphoria and flowing energy, some may label it anxiety like, I like the feeling of flowing energy. The most unique effect from the Panama is this general feeling of pleasure. The body effect is not heavy or indica like at all though they do have a UNIQUE hazey-loopy body effect where it can kinda feel like you are no longer attached to your body. For example if out walking on a trail in the woods your body just keeps walking and you feel as though you are not the walker but the one watching and observing the walking. That's how it feels if your very meditative but if unaware the Panama throws your mind also into a "haze", body haze + head haze equals quite the unique and spiritual experience. My wife cannot function at all on Panama. Can't think straight and can't move straight. My best Friend was visiting this weekend and he also concluded the Panama was his favorite sativa, he is a Sativa addict as well.
The smells on Panama were :lemon head candy, lemon cleaner, very clean lemon smell, dull musty lemon, lots of dill, fresh grass, cleaning soap, leather, green tea, lots of floral and blossoms, rose, pine, lime pine, lime, mango and tropical fruits, citrus, incense, pinesol, cardamom, orange.
The effects are all comparable but on a spectrum depending on the smells. The more earthy phenos are more hazey body and a little more dense in effect but ALL phenos I would describe as expansive and freeing and floaty. The more lemon citrus smell the more energetic and up up up.
All have a 100% clean come down.
Punto rosa: smell was lemon lime citrus, rose, flower. 50% flower 50% citrus. Feeling is strong in the brain, hazey head effect, no body, up high but still chill and peaceful, very introspective. Does not have the pleasure in the body effect (hazey loopy body) that Panama has that I love.
Thunk: high builds and builds. Hazey in the head, tingly some on the muscles, feels like a "thunk" over the head. In between expansive freeing euphoria effect and slight denser more zony with body tingles.
Destroyer my pheno I kept had the densest buds and best resistance to pm. Smells were fresh fruit, dill, herbs, leather, tropical citrus fruits, mango, orange. I like the lemony phenos the most. Some have zero lemon. One smells like wood and cedar with no body and an odd up head high, Other more funky but all the effects are 100% clean and up.
Sweet Jack heavy head, heavier than mixed haze, not expansive. Tingly muscle ac not heavy body, zony effect. Starts energetic then levels out into a more zony dense effect.
Mixed haze are 1/3 energetic, 1/3 zony, and 1/3 stony effect. Upbeat but zony with a slight heavy body. Smells were pine, dull muddy citrus, sweet, earth, skunk, funky, musky, herbal. Complex smell. All around high.
Dolce sativa: pine-citrus fruits-funky. Up high with a slight zonyness or dense effect. Numbing body but not heavy.
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My hoophouse collapsed on my plants with 1 month left to harvest or something. It didn't crush the plants tho just knocked them all over the damn place and bent them all over in half almost. Still got a decent harvest and was able to get some good cuttings! I lost a few great ones but I saved 90% of the best stuff so a great success!
I saved 3 amazing schnazzleberry #2, maybe a 4th not sure if it'll live.
1 Extremely oily and stony Jack pine
1 very oily BC sweet Kush
1 oily and stinky sweet Jack
2 great dolce sativas
6 decent/unique mixed hazes
1 high yielding and high quality bubba Jack. Yielded 3.5 pounds in a 5' tall and wide plant.
1 perfect destroyer. Rock hard buds, delicious smell, very energetic clean euphoric sativa high, closest to Panama I found but different.
2 maybe 3 Panamas. I may end up losing the most dense and earliest flowering.
Maybe 1 Punto rosa but I'm thinking them may not make it I took them very late.
I saved 3 amazing schnazzleberry #2, maybe a 4th not sure if it'll live.
1 Extremely oily and stony Jack pine
1 very oily BC sweet Kush
1 oily and stinky sweet Jack
2 great dolce sativas
6 decent/unique mixed hazes
1 high yielding and high quality bubba Jack. Yielded 3.5 pounds in a 5' tall and wide plant.
1 perfect destroyer. Rock hard buds, delicious smell, very energetic clean euphoric sativa high, closest to Panama I found but different.
2 maybe 3 Panamas. I may end up losing the most dense and earliest flowering.
Maybe 1 Punto rosa but I'm thinking them may not make it I took them very late.
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All mother plants are either extremely powdery mildew resistant to at least moderately PM resistant and the buds are all of the highest quality that I enjoy smoking. Each are unique!
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Well I finished trimming and handling all the Panamas and destroyers. I had only smoked my destroyer mother (#18) One time before the past 2 days I've had the opportunity to consume it at higher amounts and many times to really discern the effects. The smell is extremely close to a Panama, def the most Panama smelling pheno except I do not detect any pinene in the smell or in the effect. I now "best guess" that pinene is not a "heavy narcotic indica" Terpene but it's not quite a sativa it's kinda in between. The Panamas with the most earthy and pinene like smell has more of a "hazey-loopey body" effect, which does make it less expansive (though I wouldn't describe any as having a "dense" effect like a mixed haze which has myrcene. the more lemon citrus smelling phenos have less of this loopy body effect and are clearly more energetic-uplifting-expansive" on the Panama spectrum.
So my destroyer mother smells like similar to my most energetic 2 Panama phenos (#1 and #10) and it honestly may even be more energetic and up then the two of them, hard to say without close examination and taking my heartbeat before and after the different tests to see where they take it to.
My destroyer mother had the most lemony citrus smell of all of them. It also had the densent buds, rock hard for a pure sativa. I harvested it around 11/12.
So my destroyer mother smells like similar to my most energetic 2 Panama phenos (#1 and #10) and it honestly may even be more energetic and up then the two of them, hard to say without close examination and taking my heartbeat before and after the different tests to see where they take it to.
My destroyer mother had the most lemony citrus smell of all of them. It also had the densent buds, rock hard for a pure sativa. I harvested it around 11/12.
