Stoneguru
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How so?
MM X 78Thia was never released by Nevil
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There is an A5, AG13 and a HPHz A all have the Haze A father allegedly ...
My buddy in the Netherlands got hold of Haze A/C pollen from Shantibaba and put that to the HPHz A .
The offspring were impressive .
amoril
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yeah there are a few offspring of A, but i guess I could have been more clear. Nevil didnt offer many, as he claimed to have lost the cut before commercial quantities of any hzA crosses were made. Shanti has implied there is also Skunk x HzA seed in his possession, though Im not sure if its been worked into anything. I think it was tried for the AC line, but didnt pan out
So one has to have a bit of faith on some of these surviving cuts. I tend to believe its likely that some are still out there though
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sativanese
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That is just beautiful.
amoril
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Kinda makes you wonder why Skunk x HzA is only used in mango haze? All of his other males are used in multiple offerings.... hzC fathers nevilles, early skunk haze, skunk haze, Afghan haze, holy grail.... AH male fathers master kaze, angel breath, ash, early Haze, critical haze.... Widow male has la Nina, Shark, rhino/MM.... AC has the rock and roll series + grail lines work.... nordle has NHS, angel heart, devil, nevilles skunk
Unless I'm mistaken, SkA is only used that one time. Odd that
Unless I'm mistaken, SkA is only used that one time. Odd that
amoril
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For what it's worth, I'm currently vegging Mango Haze (had poor germ, seeds been in my storage for a long time) and an off-menu offering of (skunk hzC) x (Afghan hzC). Going to initiate germ on some Nevilles Haze tonight..... all of them directly from Shanti.
It'll be interesting to see what I find in all those beans
It'll be interesting to see what I find in all those beans
Is that your interpretation of a Skunk Haze A pheno out of a Mango Haze or is it Sk HzA ?
This is C5xA5 / Thai
This one is HPHzC X C5 x A5/ Thai
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sativanese
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holy fucking fuck.
@hempy
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No, that's a SkHzA in early flower from a run a did a few years back, I still have more.
Mango Haze are very different.
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You have HzA in Nevil's Haze.
amoril
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That's not what I asked / observed at all....
Again, kinda makes you wonder why Skunk x HazeA male is only used 1 time, when most of his other males are used multiple times
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At about the 10 minute mark, Shanti starts talking about males..... specifically, the 6 males he and nevil built the catalog from. Video recorded 2021ish, so a decade after the HazeAC debut
What do you think the 6 are? Id wager
1. HazeC
2. Afghan HazeC
3. Afghan Skunk
4. Widow
5. HazeAC
6. Skunk HazeC
7? Skunk HazeA?
You'll notice, the 1-6 males are all used in multiple offerings from MNS, as a direct parent.
@hempy
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You said and I quote
Shanti didn't make SKHzA Nevil did, and he also made other HzA hybrids that he gave to Shanti along with his plant library.
Mango Haze has both Haze A and C and to be honest ether Haze or both Haze work and work well great plants are found ether way.
As I said, Both HzA and HzC are used in Nevil's Haze.
Shanti didn't make SKHzA Nevil did, and he also made other HzA hybrids that he gave to Shanti along with his plant library.
Mango Haze has both Haze A and C and to be honest ether Haze or both Haze work and work well great plants are found ether way.
@hempy
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Super Silver Haze for starters and Nevil selected and bred that one too.
amoril
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Heres a few screenshots of a long post at MNS showing an evolution of shanti's answer the the lineage of SSH and MH.
SSH has always been claimed to be C5 x Skunk HazeC
Mango was originally the same father, to a mother from the same seedlot as SSH just a different selecting (5c122). I'd wager this was the early tester version, that was later reworked to make it more appealing. Isn't your version of Mango haze the tester version? Hmmm
Anyhow, over time, the lineage shifted to include skunk hazeA as the father. We can assume this is the reworked version, since this is the lineage he continues to state.
SSH has always been claimed to be C5 x Skunk HazeC
Mango was originally the same father, to a mother from the same seedlot as SSH just a different selecting (5c122). I'd wager this was the early tester version, that was later reworked to make it more appealing. Isn't your version of Mango haze the tester version? Hmmm
Anyhow, over time, the lineage shifted to include skunk hazeA as the father. We can assume this is the reworked version, since this is the lineage he continues to state.
amoril
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Worth noting Hempy, that my conclusion is the same one that JeSSe made years ago. Early Mango haze is hazeC only.
So, again, for the people in the back, isn't it interesting that the only time the Skunk HazeA male is used is the later releases of Mango haze (specifically NOT the tester version of it, conclusively)
So, again, for the people in the back, isn't it interesting that the only time the Skunk HazeA male is used is the later releases of Mango haze (specifically NOT the tester version of it, conclusively)
@hempy
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Amoril the person that first told me Mango Haze used SkHzA was Nevil, I then went and did a little research and found this post by Shanti I didn't care then or do I care now to be honest all I care about is how they grow and what ends up in my cone and joint.
The only two people to complete the Mango Haze test seed grow back at Cannabis World were me and Jesse. The other 8 testers culled them and called them impractical it was some years after that before Shanti release it and those plants were a lot tamer. The Mango Haze F1 test seed grew and acted like Nevils Haze, and they still do.
I don't remember Jesse referring to MH as having only HzC and when we grew them out, all we knew was it was a 50% Haze.
The only two people to complete the Mango Haze test seed grow back at Cannabis World were me and Jesse. The other 8 testers culled them and called them impractical it was some years after that before Shanti release it and those plants were a lot tamer. The Mango Haze F1 test seed grew and acted like Nevils Haze, and they still do.
I don't remember Jesse referring to MH as having only HzC and when we grew them out, all we knew was it was a 50% Haze.
