Michigan MMJ law safe!

[TickleMyBalls]

because google will bring up the actual text of the law, then you can read it and decide if you think there is grey area. the only reason you should need people to tell you if there is grey area in the law is if you're not smart enough to understand the language in the text. if you're really serious about it, print it out and take it to a lawyer. i've read the whole law serveral times and highlighted parts that are grey areas and loop holes, then showed them to a lawyer to see if they agreed.

 

[Incognegro]

Wow twice, no wait 3 times, in a matter of 3 posts, in the same thread...
and to think that I actually gave you positive rep...to insult me? Sheesh...I appreciate it.

There seems to be more and more of your kinda people popping up. (By your people, I mean, folks who post un-needed negative comments for what? Kicks?) Your first post was sarcastic and negative... Post how you like, I think it's best I unsubscribe...

I'm done...

 

[Gooey]

Yikes...someone is missing their ganja lol...michigan can use all the people we can get...people are running away from here...mmj is a new business n as such we can use new growers, workers, trimmers ect....come on in...join theparty...

 

[TickleMyBalls]

I'm flush with ganja, thank you very much. i have little tolerance for carpet baggers though. the market is already flooded more than any time in the history of the state, and a lot of the herb is not very good due to it being from new growers just going big right out of the gate because it's legal. the rest is out of state people importing from cali and colorado, driving the prices down so local growers can no longer compete regardless of quality.

 

[Gooey]

I am going to have to say your wrong amigo...always a lack of aaa gear....look at some shops...the prices are still high....avg of 20 a g....sorry you are unable to compete with people who are breaking the law by importing cali herb...not my business but thats not a pertinet point since were talking mmj...ive seen new local growers gear...your right it sucks...if thatswhat patients want then you simply must show them otherwise...people know the aaa...i have being hearing alot of sentiment form the lower part of the state like what you are saying...however it is no reason to say someone cant come here...competition happens when you make something legal...gl an happy growing

 

[Miss Blunted]

Compared to what PTB and I grow...the outdoor shit coming from Cali is unacceptable. I will not smoke it. PoopyTea has been growing a while, so he's good and he's not a "commercial" grower....he's a connoiseur grower that has a bigger sized flower room, lol. Seriously though....this outdoor season was a joke. I hate you outdoor growers and shop owners that fuck everything up and push bad weed so you don't have to grow/buy good meds.

I agree, a lot of the big growers I know here have NO idea about elite genetics...use shit like Advanced Nutes because they're dumb and grow shit that I seriously wouldn't buy for $200 a zip, fuck that I'll smoke my good weed. There's always a market for the good shit, but it's fading.....these shop owners are getting fucking spoiled. So are you shit growers selling to the clubs. Read up on what you're doing and get better at it!!!!

Don't mind anyone coming here, just please bring the good weed with you!

 

[vaped]

Shitty out door from Cali put alot of med.grade marijuana back on the streets. Why would I sell to a dispensary for $250.00 when Joe Shmoo will give me $350.00. Its a matter of economics. If it cost x amount of dollars to grow and takes x amount of time, matching Cali outdoor prices would kill you.

 

[Gooey]

WHy? because its legal...im sorry if you cant make money off 4000 lb that is a matter of economics of scale...you see your looking at it like someone broke the law so now i have to also to compete....just grow nice gear...we all put our love into it...obviously we are on this site...just my 2 cents

 

[Miss Blunted]

Clubs buying for 250 and STILL selling for 550+ are rippin' everyone off. Fucking sad thing is they're being greedy and buying the shitty outdoor and selling the BS to patients when they should be buying properly grown indoor, high quality meds. They not only want to make TWICE as much as the grower for THEIR efforts, but now they want to make even MORE. Ehhh....fuck that.

 

[Gooey]

correct...if you think that facilitating easy access is a rip off for the price grow your own...its the same as veggies or herbs...if you want it cheap you gotta grow it...if you want it whenever wherever with a bunch of choices it will cost more...

 

[Miss Blunted]

I don't buy anything....lol. I'm a patient that lives with a caregiver. For MY smoking needs, there is a great selection and it's at cost. I SEE what's in the clubs, but I'm not a buyer

 

[TickleMyBalls]

It's all about profit margins for the carpet baggers and shop owners. the game around the D has always been about quality. I have seen shops turn down AWESOME KKSC for $325 an oz that would have been their top shelf $75 an 8th herb, because they already had some not great KKSC that they got from a new grower for $200 an oz. these people are making it not even possible for the really good growers to distribute their herb to most clubs. most of the clubs sell shit I see on the street for 38-42 a bow for $60 an 8th or 400 an oz.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

It's all about profit margins for the carpet baggers and shop owners. the game around the D has always been about quality. I have seen shops turn down AWESOME KKSC for $325 an oz that would have been their top shelf $75 an 8th herb, because they already had some not great KKSC that they got from a new grower for $200 an oz. these people are making it not even possible for the really good growers to distribute their herb to most clubs. most of the clubs sell shit I see on the street for 38-42 a bow for $60 an 8th or 400 an oz.

i totally 100% agree... the market is fucked and clubs dont want to pay for good meds... the flood of newbie growers and 200/oz is just to much to handle for most clubs... that and they themselfs dont know shit about weed and wouldnt know good weed if they smoked it... lol

 

[pushlimits]

All of the clubs in south eastern MI are garbage. These half-ass con artist try to sell popcorn sized bullshit (that I would've thrown in the trimmings pile) for a small fortune. Let these shitty clubs, buy shitty weed form shitty growers, and attempt to sell to honest people: It only hurts themselves.

Because the way I look at it is; no matter where they get their weed, no matter how much they charge, and no matter how many people they sell to, they will always lack the one thing that we, as regular old caregivers, posses- Integrity. My patients know I have their best interest in mind, regardless of "profit motive" and that's something no club around here has been able to provide.

Granted, I'm a very small operation compared to most, but still, you cannot put a price on honesty.

For this fact alone: no amount of garbage on the street will ever hurt my business. Miss blunted and poppy, I'm sure you guys know this better then most.

Besides, shitty growers with apathetic attitudes don't last very long anyway, and these low quality "distributors", I'm sure will fall right behind them.

 

[Cheeb]

Agreed push.

If anyone is having problems selling to the clubs - dont complain about how its ruining your profit....thats a joke.

Sell it to someone else and inform patients to become quality aware. There is no shortage of buyers of quality. Patients need to demand quality from the shops.

I have NEVER met someone who didn't get the money they want for the quality they have. If they settled for less - then that was their business decision...but the market never forced them to sell their quality for the same price as others....if infact the quality is superior.


If a restaurant serves shitty food it will ultimately fail...unless people continue to buy it , disregarding quality... If it continues then it looks as though the buyer is the problem.

*I sell my medicine in a non-medicinal state on the street for a fair $225-250/oz. I see people complaining that they are not getting the $300-$350/oz and THEN talk about how the dispensaries are greedy. Who's the problem here? Is the dispensary owner the bad guy because he's got a store front?

$3600-$4000 a pound to wholesale it all to a shop seems like a good deal to me. If you cant survive on that your doing it wrong. I can see growers trying to keep a good thing good, but are also being greedy as well wanting to supply shops, who supply patients good cannabis at wholesale 350/oz.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

i think what most people were trying to say is that the clubs will take the 200-250 trash and sell it for 20/gram over buying quality product and giving there customers good medicine... its a business decision and i understand it... but when clubs show me some of there "good" weed that is trash that i would scoop up off the grow room floor and try and tell me this is the best shit in town... i laugh... Club owners are either greedy dumb or just dont care about there customers....

i for one dont sell shit for under 300 and can sell everything i can grow... there are very few clubs that will pay for quality they will be the ones controlling things down the road and thats where ill be... Sooner or later all these ex drug dealers will be booted out of business once real clubs come around with real medicine..

right now the patients are ill informed and dont know the difference between trash and good weed when they figure it out alot of clubs will go down hill...

 

[Cheeb]

right - but it doesn't have to be hurting anyone financially.

They'll be your Burger King selling their stuff for low $ - and mass will buy it.
but they'll also be your local burger joint with a passion for burgers - and they'll be highly successful.

Inferior products hurts no-one but the consumer's high...and maybe their lungs.
A mass manufacturing of Geo Metros isnt going to hurt the Lexus bottom line.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

right but at the same time... i have found 1 out of like 20-22 that will constistently buy quality weed consistently and not just personal sacks... thats what alot of store owners do... well ill buy 2 for personal..... like wtf... you want to smoke this shit but you dont want no one else to...? o wait it will just hurt your profit... like i said its what ever...but to me its a back asswards way to do business.....

 

[TickleMyBalls]

right - but it doesn't have to be hurting anyone financially.

They'll be your Burger King selling their stuff for low $ - and mass will buy it.
but they'll also be your local burger joint with a passion for burgers - and they'll be highly successful.

Inferior products hurts no-one but the consumer's high...and maybe their lungs.
A mass manufacturing of Geo Metros isnt going to hurt the Lexus bottom line.

what you're missing is they're buying mass produced, low quality product and selling high. they aren't selling for reasonable prices. they are buying $3500 bows of cali green house OG kush and selling oz with no price break at $70-75 an 8th. so they are more than doubling their money, while providing inferior meds, and turning down paying more for better quality meds, and supporting the local economy/making a slightly lower margin. it would be fine if they were only selling these for $350 to the masses, but they aren't.

 

[Cheeb]

I see. $70-$75 an 8th is insanity.

Thats the medical industry for ya. Its like getting charged $400 or something for a roll of ace bandage at the hospital.