Been looking as I do from time to time to see what is around for gear. Last I checked up on MH DE bulbs what I read didn't sound good. Checked out growers house and saw new MH DE bulbs. Have you used these or others for veg? What do you know or understand about these bulbs and which brand of fixture. I like the idea of having blue for veg cycles. Plants just stretch too much without the blue. No problems here with DE HPS for flower.