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day 14 bloom con't

day 14 bloom con't

- you should fill a bucket or more of pruned material. even nice strong thick branches. keep the best 4 per plant
- more rrots
- a pic of plants pre shock prune
- a pic after shock pruning
- make sure the trellis net forces all branches away from the center stalk, bending them sideways/laterally
- in pic 4 you can see the finished plants in front the unpruned in background

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day 14 bloom con'd

day 14 bloom con'd

- even really nice strong branches, if positioned under higher closer to light branches toss
- more comparative pics of pre and post shock pruning
- shock pruning increases air flow, deters pest and sites, sends all energy of production to where its needed - the canopy and more plants are exposed to more reflective poly again, booming growth again
- remember these plants are 18 inches tall. growing them any taller is a waste of time, energy, money resources and most importantly crops per year
- turn co2 to 1500-1750ppm
- dehu down to 50


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Mikenite69

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Hey medman don't pay attention to the clean game or whatever the hell the guys name is. You take the time and show people tons of shit that u don't even have to bother to do and be like most breeders. Hey clean game your 25 yrs of sales service what is it selling people mops to keep it clean? or hamburgers at Mc Donald's? Why don't you fuck off out of med-mans thread if you don't like what he is doing and showing people! Another thing you talk about med-man giving people shit responses well I see why he does it because of stupid ass hats like you that troll people. I am also guessing you might be on your first or second grow now since u are new here and CO just got there medical so you can grow. So until you can put out genetics and info like med-man does fuck off. Sorry med-man for this response but it's just annoying to see people badger a good dude who tries to look out for people a lot more than I can say about a lot of people in the cannabis world. Peace mike
 

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hey mike

thanks man. i hope i didnt sound like i thought he was trolling, i just figured his responses deserved some legit replies. i did not mean any contempt nor did i think he was

but good looking out man :) remember, the same kind of conciouseness can never solve the problem it created :)

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I don't think your responses were out of line med-man but I think it is crazy for people trying to give you shitor trying to tell you what I am sure you already know. Plus I think his comment about stressing plants out mean they won't grow as good when clearly super cropping and doing tne massage technique you show clearly has benefits especially for when you go into flower that massage technique works like a charm! Clean game go check my album with that blueberry bud I used med-mans massage technique before I even joined this forum and you will see that my plant is holding monster colas without no support. Plus super cropping and massage techniques actually benefits the plants uptake of nutrients and makes them grow like crazy and many growers use these techniques just be thankful you have someone like med-man with all his expierence to share techniques that he knows.
 

TheCleanGame

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The setups are decent... good for you for posting them.

The caulk? You mention it yourself in the setup posts.

The biggest issue I have is this goofy stressing system you have that you're trying to teach people.

I understand that people are not the same as plants but the same general principles apply. You don't over feed an athlete and then starve them for maximum performance. You strike a balance between their work load and the optimum amount of nutrition.

There is no "surge of growth" after stressing that's going to make up for or 'beat' the optimal growth you get with a dialed in environment and nutes.

Love the fanboys. :D lol

Keep it Clean! :D
 

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hey clean

the set ups win awards, and fetch top dollar anywhere.

your issue is condemning something without trial or investigation, what einstien calls the highest form of ignorance

i will not even compare humans to plants with you, thats goofy. what we can do is look at things energetically, so we can start impersonalizing your assertions.

have you ever grown plants with this much reflective material under them? that is where the surge of growth is. i guarantee you, if you grow hydropnically, that even with low nutes you can still shock flush, and get faster growth then your no flush theory.

i would like to see your pics of 12-15 pounds every 75 days, from 6 kw in a 10x15 room, of award winning hydro, i am showing you mine, cough up yours in all fairness :)

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The setups are decent... good for you for posting them.

The caulk? You mention it yourself in the setup posts.

The biggest issue I have is this goofy stressing system you have that you're trying to teach people.

I understand that people are not the same as plants but the same general principles apply. You don't over feed an athlete and then starve them for maximum performance. You strike a balance between their work load and the optimum amount of nutrition.

There is no "surge of growth" after stressing that's going to make up for or 'beat' the optimal growth you get with a dialed in environment and nutes.

Love the fanboys. :D lol

Keep it Clean! :D
ok we get it u don't like M M method move on:tiphat:
 

TheCleanGame

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hey clean

the set ups win awards, and fetch top dollar anywhere.

your issue is condemning something without trial or investigation, what einstien calls the highest form of ignorance
You really push/cling-to those awards don't you.

I said the setups were decent. That's a pretty good compliment coming from me.

Condemning something without trial or investigation? LOL Yeah... I really laughed out loud at that one.

I'm the one with the higher understanding of everything you're doing. You're the one playing catch up. *grin*

My diplomacy sucks... It'll improve in a few months when I'm on harlequin all the time. :D I'm trying hard in the meantime.

Keep it Clean! :D
 

Mikenite69

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Here he goes again this dude is probably like 18 and just read how to grow since growing is legal in CO. Well I have to say your comment is partly true about the dialed in room and temps. Well but that's about it nutes aren't everything buddy some of the best growers will tell you less is more when it comes to nutes. Where are your grows and not a picture of your friends? Also if you knew anything everyone knows that starving you plants a little of nutes and water then when you give it to them they thrive because they are happy to get it when they actually need it and not being pounded with them when they aren't even using it. Kinda like giving a ethiopian kid a Mc Donald's quarter pounder value meal and giving one to a American kid the American kid won't appreciate it because he eats them all the time but the ethiopian kid would love the shit out of it and gain a pound or two because they aren't use to eating mc Donald's. Lol peace mike
 

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hey dudes,

i have seen plants grow inches in 12 hours with just water, and abviously the salt in the cubes. there is no bigger jump in growth in my tables then when they get flushed. starved, then fed nutes again. 1 day will suffice, 2 will gain more results. they really pack it on during this time period. note my tables as well can handle very hot nutes. its nft, and hard for toxic build up to occur, so no worry for that.

trophies = 3rd party certified. thats all. i dont need them for my exaggerated sense of se;f importance lol :)

just bite your tongue for a bit. i used to be like you a lot. everyone who has ran these love em. they are lumber, and can be built in way custom to anyone and their space.

enjoy the rest of show guys, all is good :)

med-man
 

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so clean

i wasnt trying to patronize you

what is your recommended ec method? for mfts?

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day 21 bloom

day 21 bloom

- i wanted to post a branch from the shock pruning still. to give an idea of how ruthless you need to be

- by 21 days full flowers are forming
- get dehu down to 45%
- get co2 up to 1750-2000ppm
- dont let nute mix go over 2.0 ec or 1400ppm
- make sure every 5 days they get 2 days of flushing
- if you like to foliar feed, you can still spray the bare branches underneath the screened canopy


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TheCleanGame

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so clean

i wasnt trying to patronize you

what is your recommended ec method? for mfts?

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ec is mainly tied to light density and strain pheno.

Best performance is obtained when you're feeding at a level that the plant is constantly processing nearly all of it.

Drop your feed 200ppm and you should see yellowing of lower leaves almost right away. Things staying green for 2 days... 3days... a week?? Your ec is too high. Cannabis is fantastic at sucking up and storing excess nutes.

Burnt tips are "NOT" a general sign of being overfed... do not rely on that.

Been doing this for over a decade now... learned from the best on the net and haven't stopped learning.

Appreciate you putting up your work so others can see.

Keep it Clean! :D
 

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hey keeping it clean

that wasnt the answer i was looking for to be honest

you need to give me a 8 week "optimal EC" schedule. to run in a smaller set up

thanks

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Hey med-man just wondering what are good strains of yours for chronic pain? Here are the ailments I suffer from I compound fractured my feamer, broke my ankle and heel all from a motorcycle accident got hit by a car. Now this is the issue when they did my surgery they didn't get all my bones and knee lined up correctly so now it throws my whole alignment off and is also throwing my back out of whack plus my ankle doesnt have the range that it use to so i suffer everyday because of this. I love more indica leaning because I feel it helps more with my pain then sativas do but I also like indica/sativa crosses but they have to be indica dominant. Any of your strains that you would reccomend would be great! Thanks mike
 

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hey mike

- rock-star kush
- purple pain killer
- pain killer
- ladybug og
- conkushion (esp for head-ache)
- west coast sour diesel

all these kinds test over 6% cbd everytime. with thc 18%-24% on the reg :)

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Mikenite69

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Awesome so I know what to grab. Sucks that it has been six years since my accident and I still suffer everyday because of it and because I am to young they say I can't get a knee replacement because they say I would need about 4 more by the time I leave this earth I mean I am mid 30's I don't think that is to young and it would also help out a lot maybe not with the ankle but atleast I would be able to squat again sit Indian style and play sports again and be more active. Funny because by the time I get a knee replacement my back will be all fudged up. Thanks for the info med now I have a nice list to pick from. Peace mike
 

TheCleanGame

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hey keeping it clean

that wasnt the answer i was looking for to be honest

you need to give me a 8 week "optimal EC" schedule. to run in a smaller set up

thanks

med-man
Your big "I" is showing again. The only 'schedule' that can be said is the same for all strains is a gradual diminishing of nute strength the last 3 weeks. Should be around 100ppm by the time you harvest.

I run full strength nutes 'for the lighting being used' for all size plants. As long as they have a small handful of roots, they can handle a balanced nute profile at full strength.

"Full Strength" is (again) entirely dependent on pheno being grown, light density and (to a lesser degree) humidity and air/co2 content.

Main reason you can never pull the 'optimum' out of different plants in the same res at the same time. Just not possible.

You can produce what I consider 'average' meds that way... lots of folks might call them 'fire' but they're understanding of cannabis is limited. Heck, you can even produce crap that way pretty easily too... now that I think about it.

Feed for the marathon... not heavy, not too light... just enough to keep the plant 'fed'. Taper off slowly the last few weeks.

Actually quite simple really. Just no way to post an "Optimal Schedule" like you're asking without filling in a whole lot of other variables. Eh? :D

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