med-man tables - medical film
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- cut a perfect hole for the duct and a double cross fgr baskets
- make sure to line the beds with 6mil poly, folded as is
- i like to call the rooms white out once poly is put on the tables. reminds me of some nasa experiment lol
med-man
- make sure to line the beds with 6mil poly, folded as is
- i like to call the rooms white out once poly is put on the tables. reminds me of some nasa experiment lol
med-man
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bayarea925
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100g res for both?
so 1 pump can feed both tables, and another mag drive sits in the res for circulation, draining and mixing nutes
spaghetti tubes via 1/2 inch main lines inserted into 1/4 inch holes drill in the 5 inch baskets costantly feed the rockwool
chose the best 25% to 50% of clones that root and veg the fastest to end up in the tables
this way you have back up cuts in the works just in case, or sell them off to pay for nutes when they arent needed, or put em more tables elsewhere etc
med-man
spaghetti tubes via 1/2 inch main lines inserted into 1/4 inch holes drill in the 5 inch baskets costantly feed the rockwool
chose the best 25% to 50% of clones that root and veg the fastest to end up in the tables
this way you have back up cuts in the works just in case, or sell them off to pay for nutes when they arent needed, or put em more tables elsewhere etc
med-man
planting
planting
- run 35% h202 @ 10ml / L for 24 hours thru the system
- run water thru another 24 hours
- just plop the best of the best babies in the baskets
- adjust dripper to the corners of the rockwool cubes
- add hydroton to finish it off
- run nutes at 1.2 ec to veg. it can drift to 1.4 if you like, but dont let it get too hot, thats bad stress
- keep ph at 5.5-6.2. i like it to drift then drop it back down
- the secret is all about proper ph and ppm. these 2 things will make or break your grow
- once roots start popping thru its go time
- i always select cuts at the last minute for vigor, root mass etc, i love having options and back ups
- the night before every cut gets a nice solid bath of azamax
med-man
planting
- run 35% h202 @ 10ml / L for 24 hours thru the system
- run water thru another 24 hours
- just plop the best of the best babies in the baskets
- adjust dripper to the corners of the rockwool cubes
- add hydroton to finish it off
- run nutes at 1.2 ec to veg. it can drift to 1.4 if you like, but dont let it get too hot, thats bad stress
- keep ph at 5.5-6.2. i like it to drift then drop it back down
- the secret is all about proper ph and ppm. these 2 things will make or break your grow
- once roots start popping thru its go time
- i always select cuts at the last minute for vigor, root mass etc, i love having options and back ups
- the night before every cut gets a nice solid bath of azamax
med-man
for planting and vegging
- shock flush - run only water through the res for the first 2 days
- plants may wilt as they are not used to the water flow
- only veg wuth 50% lighting @ 18/6
- switch bulbs every day to 3 days, back and forth for even lighting
- i always plant the tallest babies by the res and the shorter ones towards the duct end this evens out the slop ( alot of people like to use lighting harnesses that are ridged and dont allow much give for lighting adjustment)
med-man
- shock flush - run only water through the res for the first 2 days
- plants may wilt as they are not used to the water flow
- only veg wuth 50% lighting @ 18/6
- switch bulbs every day to 3 days, back and forth for even lighting
- i always plant the tallest babies by the res and the shorter ones towards the duct end this evens out the slop ( alot of people like to use lighting harnesses that are ridged and dont allow much give for lighting adjustment)
med-man
day 7
day 7
- after 2 days of flushing, and 5 days of nutes, flush for 2 more days (shock flushing)
- plants should be 4x bigger after 7 days under optimal conditions
- once roots start to grow daily remative to foliage, turn on co2 to 750-1000ppm
- shock treatments - good stress technique (GST) - every day, 2x per day, twist, bend and bow the branches and stalks gently. this will give you dramatic results. start this on planting day
day 7
- after 2 days of flushing, and 5 days of nutes, flush for 2 more days (shock flushing)
- plants should be 4x bigger after 7 days under optimal conditions
- once roots start to grow daily remative to foliage, turn on co2 to 750-1000ppm
- shock treatments - good stress technique (GST) - every day, 2x per day, twist, bend and bow the branches and stalks gently. this will give you dramatic results. start this on planting day
day 14
day 14
- after 5 more days of nutes, shock flush (2 days not 1)
- turn c02 up 250 ppm
- shock flower - 36 hours of dark period
- cut the plant messages down to 1x per day
- keep base nutes at 1.2 ec and add kind kick 0.5g / L for a total of 1.4-1.5 ec. try to maintain a steady ec for this first week of flowering
- plants should be 4x bigger and roots relative to them
- uniformity is key, you should have no stragglers in the room
day 14
- after 5 more days of nutes, shock flush (2 days not 1)
- turn c02 up 250 ppm
- shock flower - 36 hours of dark period
- cut the plant messages down to 1x per day
- keep base nutes at 1.2 ec and add kind kick 0.5g / L for a total of 1.4-1.5 ec. try to maintain a steady ec for this first week of flowering
- plants should be 4x bigger and roots relative to them
- uniformity is key, you should have no stragglers in the room
For 10$ or less... you can skip the toxic caulk and put in a standard E&F drain of the appropriate size.
Make sure you drill the hole about an inch away from the edges... allows you to easily clean out any leaves or other debris that the drain screen catches.
College for growing? Sounds interesting... is your diplomacy better in person or is it the same in RL like mine is?
Keep it Clean!
Make sure you drill the hole about an inch away from the edges... allows you to easily clean out any leaves or other debris that the drain screen catches.
College for growing? Sounds interesting... is your diplomacy better in person or is it the same in RL like mine is?
Keep it Clean!
I've told you before that you'll get better results just feeding within the optimum range.
Any time your plants experience a 'surge' of growth (other than the initial flowering stretch)... it means you were over or under feeding them.
Over feeding them (which it looks like you're doing) will build up excess nutrients in the cannabis plant that won't completely flush out before harvest time. Cannabis is extremely good at sucking up and storing that stuff.
I guarantee that if you pick a slightly lower nutrient strength than your max and keep it there... you'll have higher yields and smoother end bud.
Interesting setup you have there...
Keep it Clean!
For 10$ or less... you can skip the toxic caulk and put in a standard E&F drain of the appropriate size.
Make sure you drill the hole about an inch away from the edges... allows you to easily clean out any leaves or other debris that the drain screen catches.
College for growing? Sounds interesting... is your diplomacy better in person or is it the same in RL like mine is?
Keep it Clean!
Hey keep it clean
What cock?
med-man
I've told you before that you'll get better results just feeding within the optimum range.
Any time your plants experience a 'surge' of growth (other than the initial flowering stretch)... it means you were over or under feeding them.
Over feeding them (which it looks like you're doing) will build up excess nutrients in the cannabis plant that won't completely flush out before harvest time. Cannabis is extremely good at sucking up and storing that stuff.
I guarantee that if you pick a slightly lower nutrient strength than your max and keep it there... you'll have higher yields and smoother end bud.
Interesting setup you have there...
Keep it Clean!
Hey keep it clean
Different methods have difderent optimals. Same with strains. Thats free. Just lile this tutorial
med-man
Hey keep it clean
Different methods have difderent optimals. Same with strains. Thats free. Just lile this tutorial
med-man
Methods change... plants are the same. They eat different strengths but still process it the same way as all the others.
Optimal feeding creates a steady rush of growth from beginning of flower till about a week from harvest. What you're describing with your plants is not 'good stress'... it's 'stress'.
I guarantee that if you fix your feed levels you'll get a larger harvest over your pump and starve method.
Your diplomacy is that golden and you're actually considering opening a "Teaching" facility? Wow. I really wish you luck with that.
Your attitude has been quite condescending and rude since your arrival on these boards... people don't really stick around for crap like that, especially when they're paying you. lol
Coming from 25 years of customer service? You have a lot of polishing to do... *sigh*
Keep it Clean!
Methods change... plants are the same. They eat different strengths but still process it the same way as all the others.
Optimal feeding creates a steady rush of growth from beginning of flower till about a week from harvest. What you're describing with your plants is not 'good stress'... it's 'stress'.
I guarantee that if you fix your feed levels you'll get a larger harvest over your pump and starve method.
Your diplomacy is that golden and you're actually considering opening a "Teaching" facility? Wow. I really wish you luck with that.
Your attitude has been quite condescending and rude since your arrival on these boards... people don't really stick around for crap like that, especially when they're paying you. lol
Coming from 25 years of customer service? You have a lot of polishing to do... *sigh*
Keep it Clean!
Hey keeping it clean
I didnt realize dried and cured cock was toxic. Esp sonce its in eberyone bathrooms and kitchens. And in this case covered by 6 mil vapor barrier. Its use it adheseve. Not water proofing
Mom always said if u have nothin nice to share keep it tp yourself
No one pays me for my tutprials thank u. I would love to see your tutorial of my methods and beat my results. Fron t to back. Looking forward to it
med-man
hey keep in it clean
For 25 years in sales u are not too convincingvon selling me on your approach. Feedback is appreciated none the less as if anyone can benefit from your advice I am all for it.
With 22 years of sales and growing. Inventing 2 systems with an award winning nute line and stable I would say my methods have been proven time and time again. Esp with tens of millions in set ups under my belt for clients
to put things in perspective, while you have been selling stuff, i have been growing stuff
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Methods change... plants are the same. They eat different strengths but still process it the same way as all the others.
Optimal feeding creates a steady rush of growth from beginning of flower till about a week from harvest. What you're describing with your plants is not 'good stress'... it's 'stress'.
quote 1 - just to close, was on my android before: thank you for backing my statements
quote 2 - my method is about activating the plants immune system through stress, in a beneficial way
quote 3 - (deleted by accident) - teachers do not come to earth to be a shoulder to cry on, to take rosy walks with or to whisper sweet nothings. they are here to teach, nothing more or less
my lifetime table average for every kind of beast and kind is 2.5 lb per kw or 8-12 ounce per linear foot per table. with organic losing 25% yields at least
commercially with bucketrs and other systems with monster rooms and grows is 1.75 per kw. please show us how this will be improved on? i am talking 400 plus lighters
i will make you a deal. i have a small room planting soon. gimme your secret master recipe of e.c. and i will try it
med-man
Optimal feeding creates a steady rush of growth from beginning of flower till about a week from harvest. What you're describing with your plants is not 'good stress'... it's 'stress'.
quote 1 - just to close, was on my android before: thank you for backing my statements
quote 2 - my method is about activating the plants immune system through stress, in a beneficial way
quote 3 - (deleted by accident) - teachers do not come to earth to be a shoulder to cry on, to take rosy walks with or to whisper sweet nothings. they are here to teach, nothing more or less
my lifetime table average for every kind of beast and kind is 2.5 lb per kw or 8-12 ounce per linear foot per table. with organic losing 25% yields at least
commercially with bucketrs and other systems with monster rooms and grows is 1.75 per kw. please show us how this will be improved on? i am talking 400 plus lighters
i will make you a deal. i have a small room planting soon. gimme your secret master recipe of e.c. and i will try it
med-man
I say, for every grower there are 3-10 ways to set up and grow. Having built a strawbale home (environmentally conscious, sustainable, et.al), I'm not a fan of OSB due it's engineering and gases. However, provided there is adequate ventilation, it's used widely in construction projects. So whichever suits budget, fancy is the way to build.
Med-Man you've definitely got the process down....love the pictorial. CleanGame, I'm sure your way is solid and plant prosperous, too. Agree that you both can develop killer harvests.
Me? I'm still old school dedicating my seed producing area to 30 3-5 gallon buckets in soiless mix (when growing indoors) w/ drain/water nearby. I don't have the advantage as Secret Gardens or Hybrids from Hell have selecting from 100 plants per strain. I select the best from the 25 each strain/hybrid and go from there. Same with outdoors, having 2 other partners- similar set up, 20-30 plants each strain, then selecting best traits from each and mate them. F1's onward, F3 bx and onward.
Back to OSB.......
First of all, there is not a huge difference in offgassing between OSB (oriented strand board) and exterior-grade plywood. You are right to be concerned, however, about offgassing from wood panels, as the EPA has classified formaldehyde as a probable human carcinogen.
Having said that, there are important differences in the types of formaldehyde resins and their use in wood panel products. The first important distinction is between urea-formaldehyde (UF) and phenol-formaldehyde (PF).
UF is more toxic and should be avoided at all costs in anything you put in your home.
PF is more water resistant and stable than UF, which means formaldehyde will offgas at lower levels and very slowly, but for a longer period of time. PF products are considered to be relatively hazard-free.
Most exterior plywoods and OSBs use PF. Unfortunately, many interior plywoods, MDFs (medium-density fiberboards), and particleboards contain urea-formaldehyde. These materials inside your home can have a greater impact on your indoor air quality than exterior structural panels or OSB.
My preference- redwood or cedar. Expensive, but depreciation of materials outweigh using formaldehyde materials and lasts much longer, can stand up to Clorox wash year after year. But then again, I'm "green built".
JUST GROW WITH IT, Med-Man, CleanGame and other the others out there!!
Med-Man you've definitely got the process down....love the pictorial. CleanGame, I'm sure your way is solid and plant prosperous, too. Agree that you both can develop killer harvests.
Me? I'm still old school dedicating my seed producing area to 30 3-5 gallon buckets in soiless mix (when growing indoors) w/ drain/water nearby. I don't have the advantage as Secret Gardens or Hybrids from Hell have selecting from 100 plants per strain. I select the best from the 25 each strain/hybrid and go from there. Same with outdoors, having 2 other partners- similar set up, 20-30 plants each strain, then selecting best traits from each and mate them. F1's onward, F3 bx and onward.
Back to OSB.......
First of all, there is not a huge difference in offgassing between OSB (oriented strand board) and exterior-grade plywood. You are right to be concerned, however, about offgassing from wood panels, as the EPA has classified formaldehyde as a probable human carcinogen.
Having said that, there are important differences in the types of formaldehyde resins and their use in wood panel products. The first important distinction is between urea-formaldehyde (UF) and phenol-formaldehyde (PF).
UF is more toxic and should be avoided at all costs in anything you put in your home.
PF is more water resistant and stable than UF, which means formaldehyde will offgas at lower levels and very slowly, but for a longer period of time. PF products are considered to be relatively hazard-free.
Most exterior plywoods and OSBs use PF. Unfortunately, many interior plywoods, MDFs (medium-density fiberboards), and particleboards contain urea-formaldehyde. These materials inside your home can have a greater impact on your indoor air quality than exterior structural panels or OSB.
My preference- redwood or cedar. Expensive, but depreciation of materials outweigh using formaldehyde materials and lasts much longer, can stand up to Clorox wash year after year. But then again, I'm "green built".
JUST GROW WITH IT, Med-Man, CleanGame and other the others out there!!
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day 14 BLOOM
day 14 BLOOM
- keep up with the messages 1x per day from flipping
- on day 14, strip all but 4 branches per palnt, keeping the best branches on
- strip all but 4 nodes off these remaining branches
- stop the messages
- put up a trellis net, tight via 4 posts attached to each table
- add the kind bud bloom or your fave booster for this stage. 1.6-1.7 ec, ph 5,5-6.2
- your plants will look naked and weak, do not fret. in a week you will never know you shock pruned em
- hard to beleive these root masses are just 4 weeks old
- shock pruning pics and other week 2 bloom pics after this post
med-man
day 14 BLOOM
- keep up with the messages 1x per day from flipping
- on day 14, strip all but 4 branches per palnt, keeping the best branches on
- strip all but 4 nodes off these remaining branches
- stop the messages
- put up a trellis net, tight via 4 posts attached to each table
- add the kind bud bloom or your fave booster for this stage. 1.6-1.7 ec, ph 5,5-6.2
- your plants will look naked and weak, do not fret. in a week you will never know you shock pruned em
- hard to beleive these root masses are just 4 weeks old
- shock pruning pics and other week 2 bloom pics after this post
med-man
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