MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[darby crash]

Just because others don't show off what they have and make endless posts about their accomplishments it doesn't mean they haven't made it anywhere...

Remember what they say about dogs that bark the loudest?

What a fucking tool. I've lurked in Julian's thread now for almost two years. Have learned many new things, growing techniques and other things that until reading them here I was ignorant about. When you decide it is time to stop wallowing and rutting in stupidity, you might find that you know way less than you think. Julian is no braggart or blowhard. The proof is in his posts, and so too, the proof of his humility.

If we could tap into your fountain of wisdom, all there will be is an empty barrel. Maybe Julian is a millionaire, maybe he ain't. But what does this thread have to do about his matreial posessions. I've never seen any pictures of any of his stuff. Unlike you, though, he has the knowledge and the tools to craft his success. However, you're just a tool, who's likely accomplished nothing. Otherwise why waste your time here trying to kick a man while he's down.

To Julian, Merry Christmas. And thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Warm Regards,

Darby Crash. I Grow for Cash!

 

[whatissixbynine]

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[TLoft13]

High!

You building a spaceship Julian? That would be cool...

Whats your experience planting right next to streams? I have found one thats in well hidden, kinda bottom of a minor gully... surrounded by broken trees and stuff. But quite exposed to sun.

I dont have time to prep a irrigation system this time but have been advised damming and using timer and drippers... have used em bfore and found em a pain, uneven pressure, blockages etc.

So... i am thinking small planters dug next to stream and fill these with coco, soil, sand, ferts, charcoal and burying em. Thinking the roots will find the stream and have a constant water source without drowning...?

Planters are quite small bags... nice and cheap and strong enough i reckon for few months.

Its an area of high rainfall... so flash flooding maybe poss...

Anyway any advice or exp. you have would be helpful.

Cheers and good luck with your projects!

If i may chime in: Cannabis survives under water. When the stream rises(rains, flooding) the water presses the plants flat on the ground. After the water recesses, the plants are well, and you may simply put them up again and stomp on the ground around the stem to facilitate stability.
Any kind of potted/ canistered plant in this case would, along with the rest of your equipment, cruising the ocean.
Something to consider, Good Luck! to you!
TLoft13

PS: If anybody has an idea how long Cannabis may survive under water, or how does this work physiologically, I'm still interested.

 

[Rodney]

^^^ not long. It will drown. I personally wouldn't count on any cannabis plant surviving a flood. And would never plant in a low area near a creek/stream. ESP if that area is known for flooding. I did once when I was 13. Plants grew great till the rains came
Flooding killed all of them. Lesson learned. Risk it if you'd like but, why knowing the outcome. Move to higher ground out of the flood zone but still near water source/water table.
Or just make little life jackets for each plant
Good luck.

 

[Cookie Duster]

Julian, I'm new hear but not new to growing(30 +). I have read a lot of your posts and I can say I learned a thing or two. I too have been thinking about auto flowers(lowryder) . Thank You!

 

[TLoft13]

^^^ not long. It will drown. I personally wouldn't count on any cannabis plant surviving a flood. And would never plant in a low area near a creek/stream. ESP if that area is known for flooding. I did once when I was 13. Plants grew great till the rains came
Flooding killed all of them. Lesson learned. Risk it if you'd like but, why knowing the outcome. Move to higher ground out of the flood zone but still near water source/water table.
Or just make little life jackets for each plant
Good luck.

Because they grow their roots in the water. I'm all for guerilla/lowmaintenance growing. I had around 50 plants which were flooded last season, around 30 which were not because they were on higher ground( 1-2 metres higher).
The "drier" spots had plants 1,5-2m big, spindly and low yielding.
The wet(and temporarily flooded spots) were 2-3,5m high monster bushes. Well worth the risk.
Or to say it another way: Flood plains were the most desirable lands throughout human history. They were "the" place for the first higher cultures, worth fighting and dying for.
Cookie Duster: For those interested in Autoflowers: I saw a new strain advertisement, "Big Devil" by Sweetseeds.es(pana). Apparently this one is big yielding for AF, and the seeds are reasonably priced. I will probably give them a try in '10.

 

[Rodney]

Understandable T completely. I suppose in a game such as this where all is a gamble and built on risks. Suppose finding that happy medium is key to everything
Not to call anyone out or disrespect in any way but have you seen still2bigs grow this past year? Everything was going sweet untill the heavy rains came. My sympathy on your loss and much respect to still2 ( I know he's out there some where making big plans for 10)
Anyhow mother nature can be a bitch and ruin lots of hard work and plans.
Glad to hear your plants survived the flood.

 

[Julian]

Let the scrooges do their thing J. Those of us that the thread helped dont even notice the neg posts. We see all 183 pages as a stream of info relating to the big picture. Its the discussion and abstract ideas that matter, not proof of who did what.

Thanks man.....(I thought you said "stooges" or "spooges" when I first skimmed and got a kick out of it.....)

S'all about the big picture......always....for everyone....all the time.....

What a fucking tool. I've lurked in Julian's thread now for almost two years. Have learned many new things, growing techniques and other things that until reading them here I was ignorant about. When you decide it is time to stop wallowing and rutting in stupidity, you might find that you know way less than you think. Julian is no braggart or blowhard. The proof is in his posts, and so too, the proof of his humility.

If we could tap into your fountain of wisdom, all there will be is an empty barrel. Maybe Julian is a millionaire, maybe he ain't. But what does this thread have to do about his matreial posessions. I've never seen any pictures of any of his stuff. Unlike you, though, he has the knowledge and the tools to craft his success. However, you're just a tool, who's likely accomplished nothing. Otherwise why waste your time here trying to kick a man while he's down.

To Julian, Merry Christmas. And thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Warm Regards,

Have always been pretty honest and accurate aside from security related misdirection.....

Millionaire? Was when I started thread and up until maybe early this year was still......($22,000 watch in many, many pictures...newer model..can tell by the case/different lugs from the older models....)

My thanks for the kind words.......never has been about me.....and I think anyone who matters knows and sees that.....

As always....an honor to be of service to anyone......what it's all about....Most will never know how privileged I feel to be of service to anyone....for my shortcomings to benefit another.....If it makes a difference to even one person?....It's always worth it....

Thanks man......very kind of you to say......means a lot...

heh keep on keepin on - sweet thread, great info!

yupz

and i've been following this one a bit less than that, but yeah agreed, amazing knowledge and wisdom here.

Again....my sincere thanks.....the pleasure is mine....glad of interest and value...benefit...

Julian, I'm new hear but not new to growing(30 +). I have read a lot of your posts and I can say I learned a thing or two. I too have been thinking about auto flowers(lowryder) . Thank You!

Your welcome.....and glad of interest...of use.....

Doesn't matter who or what you are.......we're all always learning......I've been helped many times, by many people, with many things, and, yet again,as of late...venturing into yet more new areas and things...and I always am very grateful to all for their time.....and assistance......Very. Most will never know how much I appreciate their time....

High!

You building a spaceship Julian? That would be cool...

Can't even hint. Relates to significant involvement in operations of new (to be publicly traded) company. Might be MMJ related ...

Whats your experience planting right next to streams? I have found one thats in well hidden, kinda bottom of a minor gully... surrounded by broken trees and stuff. But quite exposed to sun.

I dont have time to prep a irrigation system this time but have been advised damming and using timer and drippers... have used em bfore and found em a pain, uneven pressure, blockages etc.

So... i am thinking small planters dug next to stream and fill these with coco, soil, sand, ferts, charcoal and burying em. Thinking the roots will find the stream and have a constant water source without drowning...?

Planters are quite small bags... nice and cheap and strong enough i reckon for few months.

Its an area of high rainfall... so flash flooding maybe poss...

Anyway any advice or exp. you have would be helpful.

Cheers and good luck with your projects!

If i may chime in: Cannabis survives under water. When the stream rises(rains, flooding) the water presses the plants flat on the ground. After the water recesses, the plants are well, and you may simply put them up again and stomp on the ground around the stem to facilitate stability.
Any kind of potted/ canistered plant in this case would, along with the rest of your equipment, cruising the ocean.
Something to consider, Good Luck! to you!
TLoft13

PS: If anybody has an idea how long Cannabis may survive under water, or how does this work physiologically, I'm still interested.

^^^ not long. It will drown. I personally wouldn't count on any cannabis plant surviving a flood. And would never plant in a low area near a creek/stream. ESP if that area is known for flooding. I did once when I was 13. Plants grew great till the rains came
Flooding killed all of them. Lesson learned. Risk it if you'd like but, why knowing the outcome. Move to higher ground out of the flood zone but still near water source/water table.
Or just make little life jackets for each plant
Good luck.

Because they grow their roots in the water. I'm all for guerilla/lowmaintenance growing. I had around 50 plants which were flooded last season, around 30 which were not because they were on higher ground( 1-2 metres higher).
The "drier" spots had plants 1,5-2m big, spindly and low yielding.
The wet(and temporarily flooded spots) were 2-3,5m high monster bushes. Well worth the risk.
Or to say it another way: Flood plains were the most desirable lands throughout human history. They were "the" place for the first higher cultures, worth fighting and dying for.

Cookie Duster: For those interested in Autoflowers: I saw a new strain advertisement, "Big Devil" by Sweetseeds.es(pana). Apparently this one is big yielding for AF, and the seeds are reasonably priced. I will probably give them a try in '10.

Understandable T completely. I suppose in a game such as this where all is a gamble and built on risks. Suppose finding that happy medium is key to everything
Not to call anyone out or disrespect in any way but have you seen still2bigs grow this past year? Everything was going sweet untill the heavy rains came. My sympathy on your loss and much respect to still2 ( I know he's out there some where making big plans for 10)
Anyhow mother nature can be a bitch and ruin lots of hard work and plans.
Glad to hear your plants survived the flood.

Actually a subject have a wide range of experiences in, and a really interesting one......because of course, we ll know there is a specific level which it can not only tolerate, but thrive...

Of course, we don't really know exactly what that level is....

Have pics in gallery of trays of clones (seedlings?) pretty much 60% submerged.....(no airstones, etc)....roots beautiful, white....yet sitting in standing water, no oxygen......about 60% of depth....

When I did the sand op (first time in sand...), we drilled 3' down, and basically the holes filled about halfway as we drilled....(probably when I got the idea to just toss coco bricks into/on the holes)

3-4yrs ago, when still had largest spot......we had some lower areas
which did tend to flood, and more than once came to patches to maybe upper ankles of boots....initially?....was concerned, and they looked fine.......were in ground, and still kind of early......after a lot of discussions and knowing coming weather decided that water would probably recede fairly quick....most of them made it through....we lost a handful here and there.....(came back following week and ground was spongy.....and the ones that made it were fine, and others that didn't?....we discussed that most likely, (by how they looked, etc), that had happened the first couple days, when we were there last.....

Swamp growing...containers?.....raised beds..(did some raised beds last year in wet areas and, again, worked great.....turned out extremely well (aside from sexing issues.....another story though of course.....)....We all know submersion to a degree works very well.....

But how much is too much?.....at what level does it start to begin to be detrimental?......

I actually did also some areas this past season next to some flood worn drainage ditches...(on both sides.....)and, even when a little too dry?.....they still did fine...looked great....(ditches were maybe a mile or more long, 2 feet wide, maybe 2 feet deep.....even when dry if you dug a little....top 3-5" might be dry and cracked but under that black and moist......(God I miss it all just from talking about it.......heavy sigh........)

Of course, we talk about high and low ground, and, the areas above I mentioned?...well, we did those many years....some years we had problems?...most of the time not....(so here we get back to "chasing it".......and, of course, why did we use them if we knew that was a possibility?....

Because they were fuckin awesome spots ...

We didn't put everything there.....we knew there might be problems there.....(depending on season, weather)....and, we proceeded accordingly based upon that......

Back to what you can, where you can, how you can.......

Sometimes it's not just a matter of "well, find another spot".....have to work with what you have....If that was only spot....we very well could have put in a little more work (larger containers, raised beds.....and of course as far as possible to potential flood/water lines.....(which we did anyway....we blew up that whole fuckin location )

(Hmmmm.....thinking smart pots?.....I assume ideal for such matters...larger container gives you some height for aeration......and, again.....50% of container submerged?...60%?...70%?.....when is too much?...(smart pots vs. a closed side/wall pot...buckets, containers, etc....)

As long as some is above, and aeration......we know should work....(pics mentioned above are smaller trays.....when I do the larger ones for prep....fuck.....4" pots sitting in 2" water....same deal....they're great......they love it....it's fine....(I do that because I don't want to come to location, miss a day and come back and bone dry......so, I'd rather overfill,and, from experience, know they're good......

Maybe could also alter your mix depending on what your working with...ie:If working with heavy black native or mix, and excess moisture....well, then what do you expect.......flip side is lighten it up...lighten up the top layers...and on and on (ie: Top layers some aeration and drainage, etc...but personally...I'm thinking about smart pots and have just the place for them if I end up getting this upcoming season funded.....

I never really worked wet locations too much....maybe just because I had others....but,as time goes on,and my selection of great spots not what I would like ideally.....well.......taking advantage more and more of every location I can, and altering the approach required for each one...and, in the end?....well...maybe its making me even more well rounded...(hi, low, swamp, sand, etc....),so......I guess another aspect of "all for the best".....doing spots would never have even considered before, and, so far, for the most part, successful each time..(aside from crew,sexing issues, etc, but, going to bypass that also just by sticking to true fems....so......but,as it always goes....you spread it all out, do what you can, where you can and how you can.....do your best, and, you go from there.......

This discussion has me really missing and hoping I can get my local done upcoming spring.....(If my things come through, it includes me "getting right", which also includes some set aside for that ....)



Originally just stopped in thinking would get to couple pm's if not sidetracked....but...found it very interesting...(and obviously got me thinking.......and thinking forward always helps my mood(s) when not feeling great.....


Happy Holidays to all....and your families and those important to you......and hope all is well regarding preparation.....spring very close now...I just hope I end up coming through it and being able to myself....(You know...doesn't matter what happens (good).....still going to do my locals if physically able and in the region ....

Hope all are well....and thanks for the kind words and support......

 

[OVERMAN]

merry xmas julian you badass, what i wouldnt give to be taken under your wing and work with you. I'm ordering a gps and auger soon and hopefully find some good spots this year, gonna drive out to the country this time.

 

[TLoft13]

Understandable T completely. I suppose in a game such as this where all is a gamble and built on risks. Suppose finding that happy medium is key to everything
Not to call anyone out or disrespect in any way but have you seen still2bigs grow this past year? Everything was going sweet untill the heavy rains came. My sympathy on your loss and much respect to still2 ( I know he's out there some where making big plans for 10)
Anyhow mother nature can be a bitch and ruin lots of hard work and plans.
Glad to hear your plants survived the flood.

Thanks Rodney.
Risk is minimizable. There is all kind of data avilable for alot of streams ect., what where when the water is how high and how fast.
And you can a bit evaluate it yourself, is the bed flat and gently sloped, or more like a canyon and will be like a jetstream with rising water.
I'm still learning, everyday, and this season (after getting infected by Julians mind-virus) and upscaling by factor 10 in (respect to earlier seasons) was an extremely hard teacher.

Julian: I find these near-open-water spots are more problematic due to wetness/mold. High humidity, hours long morning mist, and then rains in flower on top of it.
Next year i'll go with some strains Silverback recommended for Moldresistance/guerilla growing: Sensi Star, Mandala No.1, Kc 33, Maple Leaf Indica
Hope they'll do it without Greencure for me.
Do you have any other recommendations?

 

[Jungle Jim]

Can't even hint. Relates to significant involvement in operations of new (to be publicly traded) company. Might be MMJ related

I knew someone would do it, and you are the man to get it done. I hope all works out well for you. It is already bought and sold using LLC's in CO. This is just a natural progression. Once someone gets it set up the cat is out of the bag so to speak. I can just see pension fund managers selling the idea to invest in this, to a bunch of police and firemen!!!! Little old ladies living off of their bud investment.

Symbol is going to be BUDS??

Futures traded on the CBOT!!!


I hope you had a Merry Christmas, and next year holds a little less drama for you.

I did just want to take a minute and tell you that you have been an inspriation to me. I have paid off my house, cars, and all of my credit cards. I give all of the credit to you, and you alone. I did the manual labor, but you gave me the inspriation, and tons of growing tips that took me from a half-assed grower to a confident one.

I sincerly say "Thank you". My family is in a much better positon should something happen to me, and for that , I cant say thank you enough.

 

[Cookie Duster]

In keeping with tone, of course I do a lot of "no maintenance", always have, and, actually for the first time had a minor loss this year (about 100 or so), due to the batch having to go out and having no crystals, which are often heavily debated.

All the similar patches are fine, the one that went out where I did not have any on hand has officially been "fried"....(a shame, but, not end of the world, just a couple out of whole scheme of things...so....)

(These are "city" spots, with basically no cover, and exposure to sun from sun up till sun down....constant, in addition to, while there is indeed surrounding vegetation, they are basically dirt..(not what most people would consider spots where one could grow), so tend to become very hot also....)

Due to this loss (which I have taken a little harder than I should since it's really only about 1% of all...) I have now also implemented yet another level, which will be to mix in the smallest sizes of crystals (in addition to wet at planting and then dry also mixed) into the plots themselves......

There are of course many rules we should follow, and, should never be waived, regardless (technically, I should have held off on that round for a couple days until I was able to secure more supplies....but, they "had to go"....)

I'm also nursing my first ever case (minor) of poison ivy/oak/sumac, due to yet another lapse in protocol (long sleeves included), because it was "too hot"...(100 degrees, 100% humidity, and no wind whatsoever for several hours planting ....)

Of course attached to that is one should never work or visit plots unless properly covered due to possible identification issues (tats covered, hood, etc...) and such is a major potential security breach.

Many will debate this due to their volume, and , they are free to, it's only my position....

Back to crystals...I've of course been using them for years, but, this incident is the first rock solid and true indication of the actual difference they provide...(20 spots fine, the one without fried to a crisp....)

These crystals you speak of, are they polymers by any chance? What is the rate per hole or per plant?

 

[Rodney]

Hope you don't mind J. ^^^ really CD? Yes they're water retaining polymer crystals. How much per hole? Depends.
Read the whole thread before posting such simple questions. Waste of our time at this point in thread. Thanks

 

[Julian]

merry xmas julian you badass, what i wouldnt give to be taken under your wing and work with you. I'm ordering a gps and auger soon and hopefully find some good spots this year, gonna drive out to the country this time.

Thanks man....and happy holidays and a prosperous new year to all you badass mutherfuckers too ....

Ehh.....I'm very difficult to work with I think....in the sense of my fanaticism....but, have had a handful where everything was smooth, and went well....Have been reflecting on those people recently...(This time of year finds me in such moods, about everything....)..I don't know...guess just how one sees things, tasks, etc...

Enjoy the auger but make sure to always remember to let it do the work...will save back, arms and shoulders....take a look around also...might be able to find a used one somewhere, or on sale, etc....

Julian: I find these near-open-water spots are more problematic due to wetness/mold. High humidity, hours long morning mist, and then rains in flower on top of it.
Next year i'll go with some strains Silverback recommended for Moldresistance/guerilla growing: Sensi Star, Mandala No.1, Kc 33, Maple Leaf Indica
Hope they'll do it without Greencure for me.
Do you have any other recommendations?

Well, I guess all depends on environment and all related factors to start with (environment meaning how much it varies...)

I did a swamp edge spot last year.....and was very concerned with later, but, all came out well....mold issues were minimal....and they did very well......(actually.....did another spot on edges, partially shaded....) Think both fairly high temps and humidity, but, circulation was good, sun on one was all day, and, didn't turn out that bad.....

Of course the other regional aspect is, depending on where one is....who knows?, upcoming year may very well be a dry one....

Older lower areas spoken about above....had occasional mold, but, again, in the end, spot was worth it and worked well....temps a factor also.....circulation and such.....I don't really have spots that are the same, like clockwork year after year,so....never know how season going to end up in any given location.....worst spot this year could be best and vs. versa....so....

I knew someone would do it, and you are the man to get it done. I hope all works out well for you. It is already bought and sold using LLC's in CO. This is just a natural progression. Once someone gets it set up the cat is out of the bag so to speak. I can just see pension fund managers selling the idea to invest in this, to a bunch of police and firemen!!!! Little old ladies living off of their bud investment.

Symbol is going to be BUDS??

Futures traded on the CBOT!!!

Well, there are 4-5 currently (publicly traded MMJ companies), different states even I believe....I did review them all recently....but not fresh in my mind...but could list them all later....they serve various segments of industry.....some may do well,others may not....it seemed to me that at least 1-2 did not prepare and execute as they probably should have..(I remember reading one already having problems with operations, etc..most likely due to lack of research and discussions with the specific state, etc....) Some may very well be some form of pump and dump...(I can't say this for sure..but one always wonders such...they're all pink sheet penny stuff....which is something I'm not well versed on, and have never done....)

Can't really say too much as this is not something done.....and rather unique in several ways....(future positioning in mind...) Of course, to go up and get institutional support, have to hit 50MM gross for 2 years, so....I'm a trader,not a banker, so....these matters being left to those who have command over such....

We'll see.....everything is laid out....couple right people on board...(and everything I say and do being double checked and triple checked by others, so...who knows how long that will take....but, I'm sure it will raise an eyebrow when everything comes together as far as operations and positioning......very excited about it actually, but, lot of issues and work before it really hits....really funding and such major issue (always is)...can hit funding, can get going fairly fast and quick.....(easy to hit fast and hard if direction established and everything laid out and funding is there...problem is getting to that point....)

We'll see...but, I think was truly some moments of inspiration.....and surprised myself...(whole thing from top to bottom is mine....) Long way to go on that.....if I could do one thing?...that would be it, so....but a long way, lot of work, and have to get myself right to even be able to do that, or even continue working on it.....so...There's a fine line between it being fully understood and taken seriously and dismissed......the rest of the word really doesn't understand MJ business/industry, let alone fine line med....so...initial reactions were not great....then got better...then started to see with supporting documentation,and on it goes...so......for the most part it's all paperwork and such....so....(until everything going),so...we'll see.....but eventually someone, somewhere going to "get it", and, whoever does will definitely have the strongest position...

I don't think anyone has a clue where MJ is going in the US in the future.....and I believe this specific company and approach would establish a firm position in the future.....we'll see.....(I also considered altering who it's brought to and shared with....in many ways....but most likely I would lose it if that was done, so.....better to at least get everything set up, so, worst case scenario then we're "bought out" by someone else in the future.....(Holding several million shares of company bought out wouldn't be a bad thing financially.....and, unless enough funding there.....most likely will be the case...anyway....)

I hope you had a Merry Christmas, and next year holds a little less drama for you.

I did just want to take a minute and tell you that you have been an inspriation to me. I have paid off my house, cars, and all of my credit cards. I give all of the credit to you, and you alone. I did the manual labor, but you gave me the inspriation, and tons of growing tips that took me from a half-assed grower to a confident one.

I sincerly say "Thank you". My family is in a much better positon should something happen to me, and for that , I cant say thank you enough.

Always a pleasure....honored to be of any help whatsoever to anyone......to be able to make an actual difference to someone here, in this place, this format....a unique pleasure and honor.....

Thanks for the wishes....and the best of for the upcoming new year......hopefully we'll all do better.......I don't think this was many peoples best year for various reasons....weather, etc....

Hope you don't mind J.

Not at all. Feel free. Backtracking affects all...

 

[Cookie Duster]

Hope you don't mind J. ^^^ really CD? Yes they're water retaining polymer crystals. How much per hole? Depends.
Read the whole thread before posting such simple questions. Waste of our time at this point in thread. Thanks

Aha good point Rodney guess I did the Evelyn Wood speed read thing. I will go back and slow down. After all I'm here to learn.
In it for the long haul. Thanks

 

[Julian]

I hope everyone is well........I hope all in good health (or the best possible considering)....I hope everyones families are well..

And here we are.......not only closing out a year which for some, has not been the best..(09' wasn't mine )....but entering a new decade....

I actually know several directly or otherwise whom have had tremendous loss in the past week...during the holidays.....friends....family....and while my situation really not cleared up yet....(actually, bad news flowing left and right last 2-3 days for me...)...does help to remember....maybe we're all lucky with the problems we have.....

Losing a friend.....spouse.....child over the holidays.....I would trade my life so that even a stranger would not know losing a child over the holidays....

So we enter a new decade.....and a new environment.......(bear with me , I'm on a roll lately ....).....every day a new environment which finds many things much more favorable than in some cases, even yesterday......

I know, I know......all this "off topic" stuff ......like psychology .....

So we enter a new year, a new decade, and a new environment.....and is there anyone that for a moment believes that an old way of thinking is of any value?...

Green related?......we have med states almost lining up by the dozen......we have in many regions the ability to secure properties for, in some cases what our parents, or even grandparents paid for similar properties.....we have a market coming off a low comparable to the great depression.....

I'm not well.......I work forward...I try and stay positive....I put a dozen new 6-7 figure things together at a time to pitch people...(and receive an enthusiastic commitment but never a first check to begin operations...)....losing everything I built..more and more.....

But I can't ignore the potential we are walking into.....what lies ahead.....

Real estate....stock market....green.....the right business's?......

Times are bad?....for many....absolutely.....

But no matter what we think or feel....or current position....for many people.......despite all....we face what I believe to be a historic period of unmatched accumulation of new wealth...

Saw a mention somewhere regarding old commentary vs. current on properties and such.....possibly financing....

FHA, 3% still available nationwide to 4 units ...

3% of 100k a lot different from 3% of 400k.. (monthly payments also....)

Many, many regions you can buy a single family home for less than many 10' automobiles ...

All of this benefits "the little people".......the ability of those to get ahead...to build something...(and, likewise...I have to build from scratch?....well....no better time to do so...and I find that of comfort......in many ways......and a ray of hope.....

Was talking to someone whose very down today......(much worse than I in a 100 ways......).

The point?.........that right now a single, medium sized outdoor could buy him a fuckin house...(20 p's, 4k per, 80k).....and still have enough left to furnish it, buy a halfway decent car, and if cheap enough, have 5k left to open brokerage account and I teach him how to trade it...

(We all know my fondness of conversing with and assisting the homeless )

Discussions......self realization.....a change in thinking and viewing the world around us....and maybe even ways of operating within it?...

A single fleeting thought which can alter ones entire direction and financial future?...

Well.....I believe right now to be one of the greatest times for such...

I want to work back when I get a chance to some business matters....overviews....(properties, markets have changed, as have financing options, etc......but, while the financing options have become slightly more restricted.....coupled with plummeting values?..I hardly see this as a market with any restrictions.....

A reminder also.....I not only do not use this name on any other site...(green related or otherwise...), but, I basically do not participate in anything such on any site, anywhere, anytime...(1-2 other green related...different names.....now and then...not in quite a while)....

I add this because I have seen in past names used on a variety of sites, and even a hint that it was me. It's not. (Always a good reminder for people regarding security issues and such....for everyone....)

Wanted to share the above.....not well yet...not "right" again......shit I thought was good falling through left and right at last minute....and....even if Ricky'in ...(god forbid ).....well.....where and when else would it be possible to go from Ricky'in to essentially running a publicly traded nationwide company, new house, and new business's within 12 months?.....(If I end up Ricky'in?....I'm blowing it up like never before...that's for sure ...I see even a single sq. meter open anywhere within a 500 mile radius...It's filled ....and even going to break into acres possibly at 20 different places....cause I ain't goin out like that man, that's for fuckin sure ...

To anyone doing well?.......great.....congratulations...I wish the best......but a reminder: So was I ...To anyone not?.....well.....to both: we're walking into a great period I believe.....and while the above....and, not afraid to admit....starting to become terrified.....I have an overall feeling of confidence....and comfort in knowing I have the honor to be who and what I am and how I am in such a once in a lifetime period...

Even worst case scenario..(I miss deadlines, penniless, nothing but duffle bag....).....I still see hitting levels higher than I ever did before previously at any time in all activities and professions combined....

And such is the case for anyone here......

Of interest to many....as I know majority probably not in the top 1%: What this has done to me over time is beyond words.....it started as just needing maybe a million......to a half million........to even just 100k.....and now?....the pondering and planning of how to get back on track with even an extra 10-20..(or even less.....)

That applies to everyone....(although of course not with the identical resources I might have....the most powerful, immediate income producing being border connections and such.... (5k today, 20k in 72 hours, 10k to stop the downward,5k to open a 50k trading account, and 5k left to flip into another 20k ....)

All this relating to and in the direction of what is possible, different ways of looking at and functioning within the world, and so on....which I think we've done a lot of....

The above an illustration of one of the things which I drew from all occurrences...ie: Lowering stanards, minimums....getting it done and built up from as little as possible...

5k?.....it's a fuckin p ....(I have indoors running...one place trying just to keep power on and another 2 might be okay...all coming due in maybe 60 days.....)
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Starting from scratch?.....man I was so fuckin far away from that thought process...

Talking yesterday to someone about how gave a certain person a 50k (around there...40k...60k?...) bonus on outdoor ops last year, or maybe year before and they really only contributed...like....fuck....3 hours the entire season? ....

Of course.....I'm not the person I was 3....2.....even 1 year ago......fuck...not even the same person today I was yesterday......

The best wishes I could ever extend to anyone is that they are not either...

There is no single aspect that is not related to this game......

I'm not gone.....not nearly done yet....and I also offer my thanks in that my sharing here....and nowhere else has helped me in ways which most could not even begin to imagine.......and, quite possibly?.........quite possibly, what has been shared here responsible in many ways for what I will do tomorrow....as many things shared here......may things learned shared here.....(and only here)....(Some would call those "ramblings".....I refer to it as "thinking out loud".....and for myself....in many cases the end result priceless realizations and enlightenment.......possible nowhere else....

So.....while, yeah...I'm offering my wishes.....which is a basic reaction most of us find ourselves doing for the sake of being polite this time of year.....I thought I'd take a time in this reflective period to offer everyone my thanks.......to all for all the exchanges in which even indirectly..have caused me to learn and grow more than I might not have been able to without...

Another season upon us shortly.....(in a new decade ...).....for some...just for fun.......for some?.....ps....and for others?.....a life changing roll of the dice which under any and all circumstances cannot fail...(I'd prefer just for fun of course....but I'm very comfortable right now in that I am not able to have or do what I want at this moment in time .......), but...in the end?....the best wishes to all in planning and prep stages.....(I'm starting myself.....not going to let a little insolvency take October away from me .....)

My sincere wishes and thanks to all........and that the coming year and decade will hold the path of health, happiness, and, let's not forget prosperity for all and your families....

Things are possible for each of us which even ourselves do not realize at the moment......always.....and a moment is merely a moment......and the space between them in itself possible to change ones life forever...

Hopefully going to take this a little further in much more hardcore and serious and varied directions in the future.....if only to share....so that even one might benefit in some way, shape or form one day.....and, as always....such would be an honor....

 

[StreamMagic]

Great read as always man. This is the best thread on growing thats ever been, Bar none..

 

[Julian]

Thanks and a Happy New Year and decade to all........

Year already feeling good (mentally).....my saying so far has been:
I make, and have made a lot of mistakes.....every single day of my life...but maybe that's what makes life, life...

And I'm good with that......

So I might have a spring run, 32-34......current and extended temps seem fine now.....anyone know the overview? (Plant now, Feb?.....and, what....immediate flower and...end of April/early May finish?.....and then just run right into the next one?....)

Know lot of people get a trigger and reveg's when plant late April, early May,so...assuming that's the overview....

 

[ronbo51]

So,....The thinking is to go big with AF's started in mid April. Three weeks under lights and plastic, sexed and ready. Attack the clearcuts. Miles of clearcuts. No one in the bush in Spring. Bugs and brush are horrible. Mature under the long hours of late Spring. Out and trimmed by July 4. Did a huge seed run of AF's. Well armed. Thinking hard about it....

 

[Julian]

Well, remember.....with AF's.....your initial treatment and such will directly impact final growth, as has been shared by many.....I was running into same issue (and will if I end up being able to cover that project this year...)So.....how they are started, and what they are started in and the schedule of when to do what seems to be something to be very careful about......also as mentioned and discussed hole size....initially I thought just tilled....then drilled, then volume if drilling.... and on and on.......so.....something to think about..(when and how to start and what size and when to plant and what size hole or how done, etc......)

Seems like any restrictions at any early stage going to end up costing to some degree or another.....(possibly minor)....

I'm not out of the game yet on that.....stock didn't work out like I had hoped (100 different places to use the money and also the space...used space on full runs instead for product.....not too late though, and, might be getting going fast shortly depending on some things I am working on........(Might be setting up something shortly further south.....immediately.....even as soon as tomorrow to start proceeding on it .......(which would not only save my ass....but make my day.......)

Realized something significant about myself recently........I need to plan and execute ops.....just the thought of possibly having to set one up immediately has had me up for days...(and quite a few plans and nuances popped into my head......)

If such occurs...means all my outs for upcoming season everywhere are funded and underway , and, do have some great AF spots...lacking in stock, so....not sure if could meet the volume but maybe a half and half with a fair sized bulk purchase....(ie: leave couple selected males in large fem plot, etc.......

Hoping everything comes through...will have a lot to share and really turn my ass around...(But in for the most work this year of my entire life......more dedicated than have ever even imagined....)

Best of luck on upcoming season, and, have fun with the AF's.....throw in any updates and notes of use.....but, yeah...I'd watch any restrictions early on and try and get them in the best holes possible, as early as possible.....

As earlier...have seen some mention of slower out also..longer finishes....and was focusing on that mainly for a while (every word written everywhere from every region)....don't remember if seemed 100% across the board.....so....