Mass/RI/Con Growers here!

[Scrappy-doo]

Scrappy the paint mixer I am referring to is a cheapy home depot one that you attach to your power drill...i've never actually used a machine for mixing but I know of two people that got that bubble bag wash machine and said they wouldn't use it again after only a couple runs, I think they felt it didn't mix it hard enough and that the paint mixer was too much so the hand stir was optimal because you can choose the pace you like without going overboard. here is a picture of the mixer in case you were thinking differently....
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Try mixing for 4 minutes, very gently, with a wooden spoon, using fresh frozen sugar trim. Cure on parchment paper.

I do a second run for 15 minutes as well, to get a "B grade hash", and then dry the material for foods/tinctures.

Ahh yeah I can see where you guys are coming from. I don't smoke on hash too much so for me it's just extra cash, but I can see how mixing by hand you can control the quality better. That being said, I don't get plant material in there with the washer. I get it though that it would be more of a mix of A grade and B grade. I'll have to try that method shmalphy and get a real nice quality yield next time to see what's up. Good info boys.

 

[Rolldaddy]

Thanks Otto.

These are my first set of bags I own. I saw it made once before over 5 years ago but I have been watching videos of the process. The time we made it it was with a paint mixer on a drill.

I'll mix it by hand when I make it

 

[Rolldaddy]

As for the wax if PVC is a no no. What is something good to use instead?

 

[Leroy Brown]

350 gallon smart pot is rockin' away, pretty sure this is a 2lb chem-d if I ever seen one. Should have grabbed pics a month ago- almost couldn't even tell it was the D it was so healthy the marble was so hard to see. There's a ECSD on the other side of that container, you can kinda see it in the background.

 

[ganjherbsmoke]

ya pvc especially chinese is a no no
a lot of ppl use ss turkey basters you can take the needle and turn it around and jam it inside the tip and get some 120 micron or whatever of your chosing to put on the other end with a hose clamp, coffee filters work too but i prefer the 120
there are plenty of tutorials on how to make them

so did anyone make it to the rally today, was thinking of going but i didnt make it

also didnt anyone else catch how the people oppose question 3 put a website in the voter guide that just so happened to be previously purchased by a guy whos all for medical mj, lol has all sorts of jokes like marijuana is the gateway drug to twinkies, shit at me dying

 

[Leroy Brown]

The cheezle is rez's ibl sour x uk cheese (exodus' cut)

I may have lost it, and im not too happy about that.....

 

[Rolldaddy]

Thanks ganj.

 

[Rob547]

ya pvc especially chinese is a no no
a lot of ppl use ss turkey basters you can take the needle and turn it around and jam it inside the tip and get some 120 micron or whatever of your chosing to put on the other end with a hose clamp, coffee filters work too but i prefer the 120
there are plenty of tutorials on how to make them

so did anyone make it to the rally today, was thinking of going but i didnt make it

also didnt anyone else catch how the people oppose question 3 put a website in the voter guide that just so happened to be previously purchased by a guy whos all for medical mj, lol has all sorts of jokes like marijuana is the gateway drug to twinkies, shit at me dying

Interesting man, I've been looking into doing some bho like that, on youtube I've seen people use PVC myself. where does one find a tutorial? I'll look on my own anway..

I did kinda get out to the rally yesterday. Never been before and unfortunately couldn't indulge and also had my gf with me who hates being around it, so that was no fun.... TONS of people there, and so much weed smoke lol, all day after that I smelled a lot of diesely dank ass bud in the air all over Boston ha.

 

[NE_GROWER_978]

Rob547: If you check out EverGreen in Peabody MA they sell them made in a more durable metal type form. well worth a buy imo gonna be grabbing one sometime soon from them. best hydro store imho in the area and wont go to anyone else

 

[Rolldaddy]

Good looking 978.

I will try to run a smaller batch how buddy said on top with the turkey baster. I do not go to hydro shops in many many years. IMO anything you want is in amazon and for cheaper. Besides the fun factor of going to the hydro shop. To each his own

Rob,

I've been looking on some vids myself and see peeps using PVC too, but there telling us not to use it for a reason. When I used PVC it did work good but god know what else we were smoking so I'll pass. I did learn from watching the vids that the good BHO comes out a light color and ours was a bit darker, yet we didn't have the best trim either. We had sugar and fan leaves so that prolly had part to do with it. But we had a lot so were using huge tubes compared to these vids.

 

[TB Gardens]

I use PVC. Personally I have noticed ZERO difference in quality or yield from stainless steel to PVC.

So much stuff around this industry is weed-lore.

 

[Ottoman]

TB, I don't think using PVC is really a big deal if your using it once or twice maybe, but I think over time and multiple uses the plastics will deteriorate and possibly fall in with the meds....I don't have scientific use to back me up but I believe as time goes on people are question the safety of plastics in general...PVC won't effect quality whatsoever in my mind its just the consistent use of butane to plastic over time and your health.

 

[coastal]

No reason to use pvc. You can get a glass extractor tube blown for like 20-40 bucks... you can get nice stainless steel ones online too.

 

[Yuno.Who]

All this talk of errl is makin me want some so bad right now lol .. .. Great advice going on in here!!

Lol I might just be able to help, swing by. And whats up with the cookies?

 

[GEMiNi GENETiCS]

Lol I might just be able to help, swing by. And whats up with the cookies?

Yo fam .. You got it p p p poppin!?

I got ya broski .. Lemme talk w my boy and I'll have word for ya by Thursday or so

 

[GEMiNi GENETiCS]

As far as the bho devices goes .... Talkin w Ras

I'd just got on eBay and buy a $8 glass turkey baster .. Pop the rubber off .. Inject through the narrow end .. Filter out the fat end

Now I just gotta get something growin .. I'll use the scrappy nugs and primo sugar trim .. Get the fire!!

As far as the PVC vs SS vs glass .... I can't really have any definative input on the issues but from just looking at everything
I'd say in theory the PVC would start to break down or release gasses from constant or atleast consistent butane injections and perhaps my assumption is wrong but 9/10 people will taste, smell or just won't try the product even if nothing tastes or smells different between the 3 material choices we have... Keep telling them the skies black and eventually it catches on and becomes believable .. .. Me personally I'd just use glass and leave it at that .. .. Atleast it's just sand and not chemicals you can't pronounce

 

[rasputin]

Whether PVC is bad or not... what is the harm in avoiding it? I don't give a damn what people use, I'm not smoking your oil anyway but I thought most knew this already. Personally I don't know anyone using plastic tubes and a simple google search will tell anyone that wants to know why.

Rolldaddy, I assure ya I wasn't laughing at you. Leaching chemicals from PVC into a BHO solution isn't that funny to me, though others might chalk it up as a joke. I know it's tough to sift through all of the info, much of it conflicting, but that's part of the gig. Good luck and please, keep asking questions if you have any.

TB Gardens, just so you know that was me that found your post unhelpful, homie. I don't do weedlore. Just the facts, ma'am. It ain't weedlore to say PVC is bad. It's weedlore to say my oil is good and I use PVC so therefore PVC is good.

I'm sure your oil makes you happy but that doesn't mean PVC isn't a bad choice of material to use. Don't be cheap, with all those lights running your ass can afford a stainless or glass tube.

PVC is not good to use, in case anyone else was wondering. Reason being butane leaches out chemicals present in a variety of plastics up to and including PVC.

Here's some info from Skunkpharmresearch, just about the foremost authority on BHO right about now. These guys are real geeks, scientists and stuff.
IC Member GW is behind it, he knows a thing or two about making errll. When it comes to matters of BHO, in general, I'm taking my cues from him. YMMV.

Columns may be made from any number of different materials, but not all are suitable for butane service. http://www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance is an excellent site to check material compatibility with the various solvents. You do however have to read between the lines, and for medical use, stick with those materials listed as excellent.

Using those guidelines, a quick check reveals that Poly Vinyl Chloride (PVC), Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene (ABS), Low Density Poly Ethylene (LDPE), for instance, are not suitable, even though listed as good to fair, because the butane leaches out the constitutes, so they will end up in the meds.

 

[Ottoman]

Great info rasp...

So I am not really sure what to refer to this cut as I know its not the GSC's and I have no experience with cherry pie, but as far as I know cherry pie herms and these plants haven't hermed at all so until I get some confirmation or told what it is I am just gonna call it "ganja" cause to me that all it is anyways...The ganja tent is around day 50ish and I gave them their last feeding yesterday, flush from here on out for 10-12 days...as you can see in the pics they like to eat and are yellowing out a little already, I hope it carries over to a excellent flush for some tasty buds....

 

[Ottoman]

Got some pure kush at the same day as the ganja plants gonna try and take these ones 70+ days if I can but the new plants are starting to get big and I am gonna need the room soon, so as long as they're looink done by the trichs I'll be happy.

 

[Jeeyah]

Nice Ganja! Those buds look very happy and beautiful.