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"Marijuana USA" new report on CNN, Wed 12/8

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Anti

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i downloaded a torrent called "drugs" from isohunt.org that was about 4.6 gigs. Took several days to get all of it... I have recipes for many things, videos on cooking with cannabis, growing herb, growing mushrooms, programs on LSD... pretty friggin' cool, actually.
 
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Maria_Vanessa

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SmilinBob said:
I don't understand how you rationalize weed ever being legal without 'the big guys' having their stake in it. You can't have it both ways.

You want mom and pop to be able to grow as much as they want as freely as they want without competition. It will never happen.

You mentioned the couple from CO and their fees. I believe those fees was 50k. You also compare them to big business.. A couple of entrepreneurs is not even close to big business.

You're right. Most people who currently grow illegally won't be able to pay that much in fees in order to compete. Tough shit.

Get an investor. If you can prove you grow quality bud with a low overhead; you will have them nipping at your heels just to get a piece of the pie.

You can't compare what will happen with weed to milk. Salmonella, E coli, and Listeria are a few of the microorganisms in raw milk.

Yea, there will probably be regulations, but only if you are planning to sell to the general public. You can't expect it not to be. Yea, in a perfect world the free market would regulate competition. We aren't even close to a perfect world. You will still be able to grow pot in your yard, and sell it to friends and neighbors.

Who is going to buy 'wallyweed' when everybody and their cousin is growing it next door?
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This entire post should be cut and pasted into every thread on this forum.
 
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Anti

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Heh. My dvr re-recorded it already.

So I watched it. Anybody catch the part near the beginning where they say that the intensity of 1000w bulbs is what causes you to be able to grow "faster" indoors?
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SmilinBob

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1kw is more intense than the sun?

Anyways, all those things you posted fluctuate depending on location and altitude. So it's not as correct as it seems.
 
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SmilinBob

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I'm not arguing anything, just trying to understand. Anyways, you haven't posted anything but your opinion. No data.

Just because there are plants grown indoors that rival those outdoors, doesn't make it practical.

I'm not looking for a simple short answer. I'm looking for verifiable data with links from reputable sources that I can double check to make sure you aren't blowing smoke up my ass. Get it please... The data not the smoke.:tiphat:
 
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Greensub

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Anti said:
Heh. My dvr re-recorded it already.

So I watched it. Anybody catch the part near the beginning where they say that the intensity of 1000w bulbs is what causes you to be able to grow "faster" indoors?
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Yea... I totally laughed at that... even funnier? someone on here taking it seriously.
 
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Captain Ginyu

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I saw it, and I found some of the hypocrisy entertaining. I especially enjoyed that bald Kentucky narcotics agent, on how he was boasting that the State of Kentucky will be the last state ever to legalize, & that they are winning against illegal grows. If only I was there; I would tell him quite frankly, that he is mistaken, and that him & his pals are going to get run over by the cannabis movement like a freight train!
 
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SmilinBob

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The point here is that plants grown indoor, under HID finish faster than those outdoor. I take that to mean flowering time.

You haven't proven anything except some guy grew a tree in a warehouse.

You posting you opinion on the matter doesn't make it right, and until you back your opinion with data that's all it is, an opinion.

Stop trying to 'beat' people, and start trying to teach them.

Show me proof that HID makes plants finish flowering faster or stfu please.
 
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HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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SmilinBob said:
So you are here to beat folks instead of trying to help them learn.

It's not my place to search for the data you can't provide. You say HID lamps makes plants finish flowering faster than the sun. Prove it!

You saying it does doesn't make it so..

Proof please

Thanks

I'm done here, but I'll check in occasionally to see if you can change your ways from beating us poor uneducated folks up to making points with data.

Indoor does have other advantages that outdoor doesn't provide, and vice versa, I'll give you that, but as far as the point that HID lamps makes plants finish flowering faster.. I need proof that the reason plants finish faster indoors is because HID lamps. Not your opinion
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I almost always use a 1000W HID when growing but last year, during the summer, I wanted to see if I could get a reasonable grow going with just fluoros. I wanted to do this because with the heat, running HIDs in summer is just too expensive and hard to cool. Well guess what? The plants growing under the fluoros (clones from the plants I grew the previous winter under HIDs) finished in 60 days, just like when they were under HIDs. The buds weren't anywhere near as nice but the trichome gland heads changed at the same point in time regardless of the light they were under.
 
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HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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There is no magic in any bulb and there is no bulb that will out do the sun, period. The "magic" if you will is in being able to control the light, the temp, the humidity, the air circulation, the rate at which the room is ventilated, the rate at which CO2 is replenished. What exactly is in the soil or media being used, what exactly the plants are being fed. Throw any of these "out of whack", whether it be indoor or outdoor and you'll see poor sickly growth. Have all of these dialed in and at optimum levels and you'll see explosive growth regardless of the wattage of your bulb. All that extra wattage really means is you can cover a bigger space.
 
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