No worriesThanks for the info bro!!!
I did have a grow diary on the seedsman breeder forum on here but I think it’s gone now
Maria's Subtropical Outdoor Guerilla Grows with Connoisseur Genetics (Perpetual Journal)
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I did have a grow diary on the seedsman breeder forum on here but I think it’s gone nowilovegrowing
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Artist tom bob
Here is a link to more before and after pics. Mostly in new york i think. I like most of them but the giraffe is neat
Tom Bob’s Playful Urban Transformations: 33 Creative Street Art Installations You Need to See
In the hands of New York street artist Tom Bob, the cityscape becomes a canvas for wildly imaginative creations. This ingenious artist doesn't just exist in the world; he's on a mission to transf
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Maria Sanchez
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Panama x Bangi sounds great.
I would love to try some Ace genetics, just haven't quite got that far.
I don't know how the Panama would go here, though, as many phenos look very tight,
which for me means the dreaded you-know-what, when the humidity soars.
But the Bangi is known for being good against that kind of problem.
These kinds of street art are great, little glimpses of sunshine in an otherwise drab world (at times).
Maria Sanchez
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Well heres a pic of a Jack Herer one week into flowering. 3gal/12l pots for every plant in the tents, organics and 600w hps's.
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Get well soon Maria!!
From seed, it was labeled "Sman Jack Herer" was a freebie from way back and got popped because I fucked up one OG Kush seedling. We'll see.
I like a nice Jack Herer! The man was a legend, for sure.
I had an auto Jackpot from Heavyweight Seeds, which had a nice lemon/citrus to it.
And a very vigorous auto Jack Herer from La Buena Hierba, that was a great sativa pheno.
Didn't quite let it run long enough, though, but still very good.
A while ago I had some of Sannies' Jack, which is just a worked Sensi Jack.
Very highly rated, but I was growing it in very difficult tropical outdoor conditions, and made a mess of it.
Wish I could get some more, but his shop is down (and so is his forum).
I think a Jack would be about as hybrid as a sativa dom could go for my conditions here.
Much more, and the you-know-what when the rains and humidity build up.
Wouldn't mind seeing a nice Jack crossed with some landraces, like a Nepalese or other south/ southeast Asian.
Guess a girl can dream, haha!
ilovegrowing
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Ha, and i‘m here like, „wow these connoisseur genetics look great, i would really like (and prob will) try them. Damn, why am i not living in the tropics for some years“
But yeah, grass on the other side always looks greener. Haha
Everything has got its pros and cons. Maybe you try thai/panama, imo there is more airy phenos. They have a lot anyways that should suit your sub?tropical location.
Panama x Bangi sounds great.
But yeah, grass on the other side always looks greener. Haha
Everything has got its pros and cons. Maybe you try thai/panama, imo there is more airy phenos. They have a lot anyways that should suit your sub?tropical location.
Panama x Bangi sounds great.
Maria Sanchez
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Subtropical here, but my Sannies Jack was tropics.Ha, and i‘m here like, „wow these connoisseur genetics look great, i would really like (and prob will) try them. Damn, why am i not living in the tropics for some years“
But yeah, grass on the other side always looks greener. Haha
Everything has got its pros and cons. Maybe you try thai/panama, imo there is more airy phenos. They have a lot anyways that should suit your sub?tropical location.
Panama x Bangi sounds great.
Not all sub/tropical are the same.
Here is not great, Cfa climate, no dry season at all.
But of course, even the coldest time here isn't that cold, absolute minimum last year was 8C one night.
And if you read the first run in this long thread, they flowered into Jan and Feb okay.
Latitude sets the light cycles, that is fixed of course, but climate can vary a lot.
Places like a lot of Thailand, Laos, Cambodia have nice dry seasons when it is cooler, Dec - Feb.
Perfect for harvest.
They have monsoons, big rains in July-Sept.
We have rains, too, but also typhoons, which are of course a complete b!itch.
I usually don't grow in this season.
Used to do sativa autos, start around April, veg through a wet period in May, and flower into June and July when the sun is longest and sunniest, before the rains and typhoons kick in.
This run did not go according to plan -- you can read the whole giant thread if you want to know!
Panama Thai or Thai Panama would be good, or the Golden Tiger, with its Thai, either version 2 or 3 (best!).
A few others, too, like the Bangi, or the New Caledonia, would be nice, too.
But I'm having a blast with @ojd 's haze and sativa genetics, from the O.G. Nevil himself.
A lot of these were bred for outdoors in northern New South Wales or southern Queensland, Australia.
Close enough latitude to me here to make them great for this location.
Already thinking about the next run.
Might go back to the Thai Madness fems, and then some of the Thai Madness x ThaiFrican seeds I made.
And maybe through in a few of the Lemon 'n' Lime Jones x (Grail x ThaiFrican) seeds, too, the father will make the mother a bit better for this climate.
Rambling.
Hehe.
Thanks for stopping by!
Maria Sanchez
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What's going wrong?!
I went to the garden yesterday, with the main intention of harvesting all or most of the Grail x ThaiFrican.
She was obviously more advanced than the SSSTN and Grail.
And he main stem cola that was damaged looked like it was ready to come down,
and I was going to check the rest of her.
I mentioned earlier that all the big plants this run are strange
-- their calyxes are very small, and there is little trichome development compared to the past.
(Compare to the small seed plants, which look normal, even though they are younger and not as far into flower.)
When I got to the garden, the whole of the Grail x ThaiFrican was brown.
A few smaller branches have died like that previously, but now it was the whole plant.
Just like 3-4 days after the last visit, when the main cola was still a bit green, and the other colas still green and fine.
What's going wrong?
The maturation of the Grail and SSSTN is strange too, calyxes are tiny, and little trichome development.
The SSSTN Sticky pheno is still better, but the Grail is not great and neither is the Fluffy pheno.
I cut down the big colas on the Grail x ThaiFrican anyway, and hung them at the back of the 3rd floor.
Plenty of airflow, should dry okay.
Even when I take a nice bud, super fluffy / airy, and squeeze it all around with my fingers, very little sticky in there.
Is this whole plant a complete waste?
I think I'll try to dry it a bit and turn the whole thing into a small brick/cobb.
I also took a few lowers of the SSSTN Sticky pheno, about 10%.
It's entering the harvest window, and I'm afraid I'll lose the whole plant otherwise.
I'll leave the rest, and the Grail, for later.
What's going wrong with these??
I understand the issue with the typhoons, not ideal.
And maybe the pots ended up too small for the size and age of the plants.
But then the smaller seed plants are fine, very nice usual size calyxes, good crystal build up.
I can only think of two things, but even they don't make sense.
1. The use of the osmocote -- not enough PK and too much N?
But if I used less N, then they would have lost all their leaves,
and I added more 3-5-5 organic amendments during flower as well.
Plus, the smaller seed plants are in the exact same pot!
2. Use of the kelp powder, have the hormones affected flowering?
But I actually used even less than the last run.
And again, the small seed plants are in the exact same pot!
Think I'll try to give them some higher PK for the end of the flowering for the SSSTN and Grail.
Nothing to lose at this point, better late than never, right?
I feel really disappointed here, sad,
and frustrated because I can't even work out what the problem is.
This on top of this recent illness, working like crazy to keep this grow going, and this is the result.
It's not the genetics, I know what those SSSTN girls and the Grail NLD pheno looks like from last run.
Crying here.
I went to the garden yesterday, with the main intention of harvesting all or most of the Grail x ThaiFrican.
She was obviously more advanced than the SSSTN and Grail.
And he main stem cola that was damaged looked like it was ready to come down,
and I was going to check the rest of her.
I mentioned earlier that all the big plants this run are strange
-- their calyxes are very small, and there is little trichome development compared to the past.
(Compare to the small seed plants, which look normal, even though they are younger and not as far into flower.)
When I got to the garden, the whole of the Grail x ThaiFrican was brown.
A few smaller branches have died like that previously, but now it was the whole plant.
Just like 3-4 days after the last visit, when the main cola was still a bit green, and the other colas still green and fine.
What's going wrong?
The maturation of the Grail and SSSTN is strange too, calyxes are tiny, and little trichome development.
The SSSTN Sticky pheno is still better, but the Grail is not great and neither is the Fluffy pheno.
I cut down the big colas on the Grail x ThaiFrican anyway, and hung them at the back of the 3rd floor.
Plenty of airflow, should dry okay.
Even when I take a nice bud, super fluffy / airy, and squeeze it all around with my fingers, very little sticky in there.
Is this whole plant a complete waste?
I think I'll try to dry it a bit and turn the whole thing into a small brick/cobb.
I also took a few lowers of the SSSTN Sticky pheno, about 10%.
It's entering the harvest window, and I'm afraid I'll lose the whole plant otherwise.
I'll leave the rest, and the Grail, for later.
What's going wrong with these??
I understand the issue with the typhoons, not ideal.
And maybe the pots ended up too small for the size and age of the plants.
But then the smaller seed plants are fine, very nice usual size calyxes, good crystal build up.
I can only think of two things, but even they don't make sense.
1. The use of the osmocote -- not enough PK and too much N?
But if I used less N, then they would have lost all their leaves,
and I added more 3-5-5 organic amendments during flower as well.
Plus, the smaller seed plants are in the exact same pot!
2. Use of the kelp powder, have the hormones affected flowering?
But I actually used even less than the last run.
And again, the small seed plants are in the exact same pot!
Think I'll try to give them some higher PK for the end of the flowering for the SSSTN and Grail.
Nothing to lose at this point, better late than never, right?
I feel really disappointed here, sad,
and frustrated because I can't even work out what the problem is.
This on top of this recent illness, working like crazy to keep this grow going, and this is the result.
It's not the genetics, I know what those SSSTN girls and the Grail NLD pheno looks like from last run.
Crying here.
Old Piney
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That's crazy ,I doubt is nutrient problem. Is it brown like dryed up dead ?
Maria Sanchez
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Sure, good times, bad times, and all.
Just never seen anything like this in all my years of growing.
Trying to make the best out of the present crappy situation.
Maria Sanchez
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Yeah, like just turned brown in the space of a couple of days.
Usually even when you harvest a green plant, it doesn't change color that fast.
Maybe something got into the plant from the big snap in the main stem?
It was a massive break after all, not just a split or crack, broke more than 50% through, and hanging right down.
Old Piney
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If many of the outside fibers of the stem broke that definitely was it. Another thing that causes this is root damage from wind. I once had a few plants do this, it turned out to be cicadas eating the roots
Maria Sanchez
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That main stem damage was from over a month ago, though.
Something at the roots? Possible.
But again, why aren't the little seed stock plants feeling it?
In other news, the typhoon smashing the fences all around this area revealed a couple of small construction skips (is that the right word?), the kind that look like they're used to move stuff around site.
They're metal, flat bottom, two flat sides and two sides opening up.
Maybe about 100 - 150 liters each, at a guess.
They have fixtures on the sides with short lengths of steel rope, for lifting, I guess.
Thought these might make some nice big pots for the future.
Heavy enough to keep them in place, big enough for a couple of nice plants, and with fixtures so could also tie down or something.
Only downsides: would need to knock some holes in them for drainage, maybe an inch or two from the bottom, like a semi-hempy bucket; and the metal may heat up a lot in the summer, though they're painted orange for what that's worth.
Just a thought.
There's another big plastic tub there too, similar size, but it has a big hole in the side, that may need patching with some heavy cloth or something when the soil gets put in.
Either the plastic tub or construction skip would have better weight and strength than the polystyrene ones I'm using now, that's for sure, and bigger total volume.
toltschok
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'Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you'
Sorry to hear Maria. I would guess that the plant's water supply is being cut off by the large break and the injuries to the main stem?! Fungal infection in your warm, humid climate? The plant has finished its thing in survival mode? 2024 is slowly becoming a horror year in many areas. And then with your illness. But keep your chin up, next season will be even better. And hopefully you can still get high with what's left.
Cheers Maria
Sorry to hear Maria. I would guess that the plant's water supply is being cut off by the large break and the injuries to the main stem?! Fungal infection in your warm, humid climate? The plant has finished its thing in survival mode? 2024 is slowly becoming a horror year in many areas. And then with your illness. But keep your chin up, next season will be even better. And hopefully you can still get high with what's left.
Cheers Maria
Maria Sanchez
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Thanks my friend.'Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you'
Sorry to hear Maria. I would guess that the plant's water supply is being cut off by the large break and the injuries to the main stem?! Fungal infection in your warm, humid climate? The plant has finished its thing in survival mode? 2024 is slowly becoming a horror year in many areas. And then with your illness. But keep your chin up, next season will be even better. And hopefully you can still get high with what's left.
Where does that bear saying come from?!
If it's from the break, then it's traveled back down the plant to the branches below it.
I think I'll still get enough from the bigger Sticky SSSTN to fill the jars.
Two months ago I was looking at a realistic half lb to lb, now ... not so much!
Next season can't come soon enough.
I know my plan this time -- start them at the start of July, let them veg 4-6 weeks, show sex early to mid August, flower through to ... some time in November (at 12-16 weeks, which is what most of these are).
Going to run the last two fem Thai Madness, plus their nieces/nephews in the Thai Madness x ThaiFrican (see if I can find a male to back cross to the fems), and maybe throw down some of the Lemon 'n' Lime Jones x (Grail x ThaiFrican), for something a little faster and chunkier.
Or, I may just give in to the need for more SSSTN and drop those last two fem seeds (as well)!
I'm spoiled for choice. Decisions, decisions!
Maria Sanchez
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Oh, haha! One of those famous movies that I never got around to actually watching.
Om namo shivaya!
Maria Sanchez
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All efforts now to get the Sticky pheno SSSTN to a nice finish, and the Grail NLD pheno there, too.
I gave a feeding yesterday, some higher PK organic amendments, two types, which include more Ca.
And also some of those local 'mosquito bits' which I find stop some kinds of bugs from laying eggs and growing in the medium (if that's a problem).
Today is day 101F, but that's based on the Grail x ThaiFricans, and the SSSTNs and Grail are maybe 7-14 days behind.
Let's say, day 91F, which is 13 weeks.
Last time sticky went 14, from seed, but OJD's always encouraging me to go later.
So we have a couple of weeks to work on this problem.
Maria Sanchez
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More strong winds today, really blowing out there.
Plus some more typhoons (yes, plural!) that may be heading this way in the next few days to week.
This is such crazy weather this year, really not normal at all.
Plus some more typhoons (yes, plural!) that may be heading this way in the next few days to week.
This is such crazy weather this year, really not normal at all.
