Many Blue Streak pics

[vicious bee]

This is all my Blue Streaks. They look great (to me anyways. I sure most others here could do much better by them). It's planted hempy style in 32oz. cups. The media it's planted in is either regular Hempy 3-1 perlite-vermiculite or NAPA(the auto parts store) sweeping compound made of fired diamotacious earth. I heard about this from some bonsai growers. Lucas formula feed. I think the first two times I watered them I used 1/2 Lucas formula but mostly full Lucas. I haven't had any nute burn problems. My ph is about 6.0. Not because of any deep thought on my part. My tap water is about 7.0 ph and adding GH nutrients to make Lucas formula puts it at 6.0 and it seems to work so why change. My water is fairly low PPM out of the tap. I think if I remember correctly it was 80 or 90. So I don't use R.O. water although I have used the MR. Clean R.O. system for a low pressure aero. It doesn't seem to be worth the trouble in my case. I put the females in the cold for a few days to slow their growth and have the males catch up for pollen. I'm not so sure it slowed them by much that I could tell. Most plants have the same structure. Differences in height and fullness of the buds could just be light differences. My grow area is ghetto right now. I've had to move things around several times so I can't claim any kind of consistency for each plant. I working on a new grow area but you know how things get in the way. Hard to finish anything sometimes.

Some Males

I did have some problems. I had two hermis out of 7 males. They were wierd. My largest and most vigorious plant started showing female flowers then it all of a sudden completely changed to a male with only a few small female pistils. The other one showed mostly male then added a few female flowers at the top. Doesn't Blueberry have a kind of reputation for sometimes putting out hermis? I talked to some other growers and they had no such problems. I'm actually going to pollinate a very few buds with the super fast hermi. I can't help it. The plant was so large and prolific maybe I can cross it's prodigy with non hermis and keep some of it's vigor.

 

[S_a_H]

They look great....

I dunno about the hermies I haven't seen any either in the runs I have done but it is always a matter of time.

S_a_H

 

[ChynaRyder]

Bee, your girls are very pretty, in need of a little more light, but very healthy. Are you seeing the same consistency in pheno, as I do in your pics, and with mine? How old are they? Looks like your gonna have a nice sack o bluestreak budz for xmas

 

[vicious bee]

They're late. 7-1/2 weeks. They probably could use some more light. They're under a 400 CMH light 18/6. It gets cold at night where they are growing. I don't think that helps any. I wonder if they have time to make seeds? I pollinated with some pollen about five days ago and then again two days ago. At this point I'm more interested in seeds than bud. If they don't make viable seeds I still have two more packs and I'm saving pollen. How late can I go with pollination? They don't seem to be anywhere near done.They all look remarkably uniform. The stems are a bit odd. They go out perpendicular from the plant for what seems like a long ways before the leaf starts. Also the leaves seem to be large for the plant size. I think saw another blueberry picture that looked similar. I believe you said there are going to be no more of these. I wonder why? They look OK to me. I've seen a lot smaller plants considering I'm planting in 32oz. cups. I think I going to keep my bulb CMH for this grow and maybe try a HPS the next. Maybe they will fill out more.

 

[La Buena Hierba]

nice

 

[mdanzig]

Very cool!

 

[S_a_H]

Its not to late but you are getting close to being to late.

I did hit a BS with some Deep Chunk pollen at about the same age as these are and pushed the BS another month but it was looking pretty sickly when I pulled it.

MD has posted in another post that he was going to let Blue Streak go because he has had so little control of it and unknown just what has happened with it and he has also told me this.

But don't ever think BS is going away. I have put many grows and lots of effort into the strain for me to let it fall to the wayside so i'll continue on with it.



S_a_H

 

[ChynaRyder]

But don't ever think BS is going away. I have put many grows and lots of effort into the strain for me to let it fall to the wayside so i'll continue on with it.
[S_a_H

That is very good news SaH, you have done marvelous work preserving this great strain. I certainly dont blame MDanzig considering all of the BS, but boy, it would be a damn shame to not keep this one going. Thanks again for allowing all of us the opportunity to enjoy her.

 

[the.rise]

what size area is your 400w cmh in? and have you had the light on it for 18/6 since seed? Just wondering, because ive seen some 400w cmh bulbs in 10sq foot areas that produced quick lovely buds, and as you said these girls are running a little late. My main concern though is that i just started my first grow with a 400w cmh and i was trying to gauge whether or not i should get some supplemental cfls for my semi-sog

overall they do look pretty healthy.

 

[vicious bee]

They were 18/6 after put in pots. In the beginning they were started under Compact Fluorescents set to 18/6. Yes I know this is not optimum.
What I meant by running late is First: I pollinated to late. I put the males in a cooler area with little light and they weren't putting out pollen soon enough. Second: To slow down the females and get the males to catch up. I swapped places and put the males in a warmer place with more light and the females in a cooler place with less light. Them being late is no reflection on the strain. I've got several other strains of plants mixed in with this set so I really don't have accurate sq. foot numbers. I did have too many plants for the one light at some points in the grow and sometimes to little. I also don't have any white reflective material around the grow area. This is probably one of the biggest light wasters. The light has not been used to it's potential. I've read that with CMH lights your yield will suffer somewhat but I believe you will get less stretch. That is what I want with some of the strains that I'm growing. This whole grow is very ghetto. I had planned better but it didn't come together and instead of working on this area I've put my effort and what little time I have for it, into a new spanking fresh new growing area.
I would think that 9 or 10 sq. ft. would be good if set up properly . Unlike myself. The goal I have is not necessarily yield right now. I want pollen and seeds. I'm really interested in crossing the Blue Streak with Ducksfoot. If my seeds don't work out this time I've still got a couple of packs of B.S. left and I'm collecting as much pollen as possible. Notice the silly wax paper pollen catchers. They look silly and take up too much room but do work.

 

[vicious bee]

Someone look at this and tell me. Hermi or not.

I don't have anything like this on my other plants. What's weird is this started out male then added female parts instead of starting female and adding just a few male parts. I had another start out strongly female and then like a switch being flipped it very rapidly almost completely turned male.

 

[S_a_H]

Thats a hermie.

S_a_H

 

[ChynaRyder]

yup, I see pistils and male flowers...low temp stress...could be some interesting pollen...

 

[vicious bee]

That's from low temp stress? It amazing you know that ChynaRyder. Where I'm growing does have low temps at night.
I've never heard of it. Does that mean it could be a good plant, read non-hermi in warmer conditions or would it always have a slight hermi tendency? Unfortunately I pulled it today but I have another. There's not a picture of it up. It shot up extremely fast completely overshadowing the other plants. I mean really really fast. Then it started flowering female flowers. I was grinning so hard my face cracked. Then all of a sudden overnight it rapidly started showing balls. I'm saying to myself, "damn it my very best plant and it's a hermi". It was so fast and vigorous that I had to use a little of it's pollen. So I pollinated the lower branch of one of my plants. I also kept the really vigorous bastard and let it pollinate itself. My thinking was maybe it is a little warped but who knows didn't Rez's whole line come from a handfull of bag seeds? Is there any advantage to keeping a hermi?

 

[Mr. Stinky]

i suppose you could call that a "hermi". but really, when we use the word hermi, we are talking about a female plant that becomes stressed beyond a preset level, and makes its own staminate flowers. in my experience, at least 50% of my males will grow pistillate flowers after a while in flower. these are my preference since they make the best seeds. its more of a timing issue than a genetic one. these plants flower different than normal males, at least in my view. normal males flower a little at a time, kinda in stages where the sacs open as they ripen. these males that show the female tendencies, flower more abruptly. they grow a couple hundred sacs, and wait till they are all ready, then they all drop at once. it means there are lots more pistils to pollinate, and there is lots more pollen to do it at the right time. makes sense from a plants point of view

 

[vicious bee]

Mr. Stinky- When you say" make the best seeds", I wish to be clear it's related only to timing? All my hermis are males that added pistils. I know that no one wants a female hermi but does anyone know if it is a problem if a male starts putting out pistils? Will this trait carry over to the females and make them hermi? Sorry about all the verbiage but I'm trying to be specific. Here's one of the plants a little later. It's really starting to fill out. This is not the frostiest. It's about average for my set of plants. The pics really don't do them justice. I'm not sure how to bring out exactly how good they look.

close up

I don't know how to describe the smell. I'm not the best at describing smells. The smell seems to have me at a loss for words. I don't have the words to explain. I did think I smelled a little vanilla and some kind of dusky? odor? I'll have to really think about it. They're not strong like Diesel Ryders.

 

[Mr. Stinky]

yes just by timing. there have been a few pro breeders talk about their preference to the males that flower like that. i look at it as a "tendency toward something". the way the genetics of it work is, a male with a female tendency instills female tendency to its offspring. a female with a male tendency instills male tendency to its offspring. the reason i look at it that way is from looking at most other traits that pass on, and how they pass, as well as my own seeds from those type males. i have had zero hermies from seeds made with those males. i try to use them on females that show no intersex tendencies. to me, thats 2 different parents both pushing away from "male" forms of any kind

 

[vicious bee]

Well I made a mistake. Learn something new every day. I destroyed one but I still have the other that has super vigor and it's seeded. Also have pollinated one other plant with the vigorous one.

 

[vicious bee]

Thanks to mdanzig for these. You wouldn't believe how they're filling out. Take more pics. later. The smell(I'll try), is a little new tire with under tones of break fluid and citrus, The major smell I don't have a name for. This sounds like a bad smell but it's not. I couldn't help it and cut off the top bud on one plant. It's drying now. Have to see what it smokes like.

 

[Mr.Meds]

yes just by timing. there have been a few pro breeders talk about their preference to the males that flower like that. i look at it as a "tendency toward something". the way the genetics of it work is, a male with a female tendency instills female tendency to its offspring. a female with a male tendency instills male tendency to its offspring. the reason i look at it that way is from looking at most other traits that pass on, and how they pass, as well as my own seeds from those type males. i have had zero hermies from seeds made with those males. i try to use them on females that show no intersex tendencies. to me, thats 2 different parents both pushing away from "male" forms of any kind

Very Interesting!! This will be allocated to the appropriate place in my brain. =)