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orfeas

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orfeas brother sorry to hear about the misfortune on the girls. that has to be one of the worst feelings a man could have. glad to see you have some to fall back on though.


hope every thing else works out for you

Thank you for sympathizing with me, flboy! Fungus is despicable and invincible...you never know it's coming for there's no apparent tell-tale unlike mites, caterpillars and grasshoppers...and when the symptoms are visible, it's usually, if not always, too late...
However, there are some individuals(can be of the same strain) that will give no fracking dime...

Anyway, I wish you would never come across such a nuisance! But then I take it's part of growing...

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therevverend

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A few years ago I had a couple of my strains tested at a lab. Blue Flash tested for a terpene called limonene. It is supposedly anti-fungal. In the years I've grown the strain it has never had grey mold. Last year an infection started on the stem but the mold died and dried up. Never seen that happen before, usually stem rot is lethal.
I'd be on the look out for strains with limonene and a Blue Flash male.
The weather here has been cold and wet. Big rain and wind storm knocked one of my bucket plants over and broke a few branches through the garden. Duct tape fixed it and I've already staked and tied everything up. The first wind storm at the end of last month was a blessing because it's hardened everything off and got me to double tie and stake the big plants.
In August a volcano erupted in Chile, the weather people said we'd have a cool fall. It was suppose to be El Nino, hotter and drier than average. Instead cool and cloudy below average temperatures. It's rare for it to get above 70 degrees F and has been getting down to 50 degrees F or lower at night.
I decided to order Greencure fungicide I have too many plants that won't finish until the first or second week of October. It is organic, after three days it is suppose to leave no taste. It is potassium bicarbonate so it's not a nasty chemical. I never spray or use any pesticides so this will be a first.
 

orfeas

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Voila a couple of pics from my undaunted only surviving Malawi x PCK that add clout to therevverend's observations! You can clearly see the new bark the plant developed after I had scraped off the infected part. Astonishing, ain't it?

As for the smells, it's been said a few times before that Malawi's got a very low odour profile that renders it very stealthy (this far) in terms of stinking. One can walk right past it without noticing...

Now I only hope it will hold out for another month...

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dubi

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Hi orfeas,

I feel so sorry that you have lost a few plants due stem rot, you put so much effort on them and they looked great, what a pitty.

We have tested dozens of different Malawi x PCK parental plants, indoors and outdoors, in many different gardens and in different environmental conditions and none of them were sensible against this kind of fungus, at least as far as i know.

I'm not sure what could be the problem, but my main recommendation to avoid it for next season would be to renew the soil and apply sulfur in soil, stems and leaves in vegging and early flowering.

Hope the rest of the plants still can make a good season. Zamaldelica looks great :)
 

orfeas

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Hi orfeas,

I feel so sorry that you have lost a few plants due stem rot, you put so much effort on them and they looked great, what a pitty.

We have tested dozens of different Malawi x PCK parental plants, indoors and outdoors, in many different gardens and in different environmental conditions and none of them were sensible against this kind of fungus, at least as far as i know.

I'm not sure what could be the problem, but my main recommendation to avoid it for next season would be to renew the soil and apply sulfur in soil, stems and leaves in vegging and early flowering.

Hope the rest of the plants still can make a good season. Zamaldelica looks great :)

Gracias viejo!

replacing the soil of the whole pit did cross my mind when replenishing it in April, but deterred I was by the volume, nearly two m3 that is, so I've paid the price quite dearly...I don't much mind the loss of one M x PCK, but the loss of M x Panama is really saddening for the smell was fantastic...but never mind the bollocks...

Now this lime green Jamaldelica has gone over 3 m, but it keeps yellowing its leaves, especially the fan ones. Otherwise, it's very healthy and lush and at last it's been flowering for at least a week now. Should I foliar-feed some Nitrogen, or is yellowing normal?

Forgot to mention that a 5G's sitting a meter away was badly infected by stem rot, but your wonderful Jamaldelica is simply defiant and so was my last year's one :)

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MadMac

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high orfeas,
would not give much N...
better now some organic liquid P+K with little N.
Than you get nice bud's... now flowering is important not growing so better to feed the flowers with P+K or P+K booster will also do... but use liquid because it works faster...
For me a plant in or outdoor has to be yellow @ the end of grow....it shows that the plant is @ end of life and all nute's are used and not left in the bud ;-)
cross my fingers for the rest of grow!
M.:tiphat:
 

therevverend

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Dubi should have the best answer about the yellowing, he knows the strain best.
I wouldn't worry about it the plant doesn't need those fan leaves any more it's transfering nutrients from those fan leaves to the growing tips. I'd follow Mad Mac's advice.
Found my first stem rot this morning a small bit on a lower limb on my Royal Kush. Besides the sulfur I'd try epsom salts. The plants that had the epsom salts in their dirt mix have almost no powdery mildew while all the plants without it have a tiny bit here and there. And for all the storms and cold weather I've had no stem rot until now.
I had mustard volunteer all over my garden this year. Which was great until it got hot out and it started to die. And every mustard plant got covered in powdery mildew. Along with my squashes. But it hasn't spread to my ganja. Every year people in my area are crying about the mildew. It has to be my soil mix and vigorous plants.
You have that stem rot year after year we know it's not strain related. It's hit a lot of different stuff. My guess is something in your area, morning fog or dirt related. Both Malawi and 5 G's have decent resistance to mold.
 
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guys i'm glad this has been brought up about the yellowing leaves. i have 3 purple haze x malawi going that are about 13-14 ft tall and doing the same thing. i was thinking it was nitrogen related. but after reading these post i am not so sure. i just thought as big as they are i was not giving them enough n. looks like orfeas yellowing is down lower than mine as mine are going up the plant. i just put a queen size nylon as a tea bag with ewc and a 3-4-4 plant tone and watered them down real good. they are also only 2-3 weeks in bloom so i will be watching for the feed back.

thanks orfeas for showing this side of growing so i can learn from it and saving me time and waiting to get the answer.i think the 2 guys that have come forward with replies so far are up standing growers and i appreciate them for taken the time to share

peace
 

dubi

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Gracias viejo!

replacing the soil of the whole pit did cross my mind when replenishing it in April, but deterred I was by the volume, nearly two m3 that is, so I've paid the price quite dearly...I don't much mind the loss of one M x PCK, but the loss of M x Panama is really saddening for the smell was fantastic...but never mind the bollocks...

Now this lime green Jamaldelica has gone over 3 m, but it keeps yellowing its leaves, especially the fan ones. Otherwise, it's very healthy and lush and at last it's been flowering for at least a week now. Should I foliar-feed some Nitrogen, or is yellowing normal?

Forgot to mention that a 5G's sitting a meter away was badly infected by stem rot, but your wonderful Jamaldelica is simply defiant and so was my last year's one :)

:tiphat:Orfeas

Hi orfeas,

Your Zamaldelica looks excellent :) What a beautiful tree!
She looks overall healthy and happy, it's normal some minor yellowing in lower older main leaves but the rest of the plant is perfect, she is not hungry, she is not overfertilized.

I would recommend you to apply a good and balanced organic fertilizer in the waterings (NPK: 6-8-8) now that the plant is starting to flower and would need a bit more of food.
 

orfeas

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Alright you folks, thanks for chiming in!

I see eye to eye with you about the feeding but I just find yellowing so early in flower quite perplexing...the Malawi x PCK is way advanced in flower and yet no yellowing whatsoever...

Madmac, I am very familiar with yellowing at the end of grow...yet this is just the beginning of flowering...mind you the lady won't finish soon, not until October goes out...

therevverend, this fungus case is but bizarre for you see an infection here but not there, like afore said about Jamaldelica and 5G's or Malawi and GrapeApe x Rom...I mean a plant succumbs and the one next to it gets away with it and comes totally unscathed. Is this not peculiar?
As for PM, there's enough of it around my garden but my ganja just defies it...don't know really...

dubi, you're praising my tree, but you know what they say here in Greece? " If you don't praise your own house, it'll collapse on you!" :biggrin: Thanks heaps anyway!

flboy, sharing is what makes most of us haunt forums like IC...you seem to be doing your homework consistently...I like that...keep up the good work!

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konopenko

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Ja man lovely Greek ganja, looks tasty as black olives and goat cheese :)
I like that funky steam, I guess it could carry a kilo ;)
 

orfeas

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Ja man lovely Greek ganja, looks tasty as black olives and goat cheese :)
I like that funky steam, I guess it could carry a kilo ;)

Kono mate, you seem to have missed out on the third component of the "Holy Triad" which is
-black/green olives
-goat cheese
-tsipouro

although I prefer pickles and salted fish when sipping the extract which , by the way, is not 40-45% alcohol as described in Wiki but 60% minimum. The one I get from local cauldrons is ~65%...

As for your guess, you're just about right, weather permitting of course, since many a bud fall victim to mould...

Now the weather has turned very autumnish with a lot of rain, and the first bud rot has shown up. No worries about my Jamaldelicas for they only started flowering shortly ago, but I do worry about my Malawi x PCK which is packing up volume and trichs...

A very pleasant surprise hit me a few days ago when inspecting. I spotted something like black spots on the buds and my first thought was mould! Yet, when looking through the loupe I was very relieved to see that it was a deep purple colouration attributed to PCK...a sigh of great satisfaction...

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therevverend

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Have you tried making cannabis liqueur with tsipouro? Soak some dried buds in the liquor for a few weeks. Then strain and add a little bit of honey. Could be very medicinal.
For a while my old man was making liqueurs and cordials. He grew a bunch of currants, those turned out the best. Just soak the currents in 100 proof vodka for a month. Might work with tsipouro if it has a taste profile like vodka. Doesn't work so well with whiskey and rum.
Another idea is smoked oak barrels. The whiskey makers char the barrels themselves with blow torches. Adds a nice smokey flavor.
I miss my brewing days. I used to make 30 gallons of beer a week with a friend throughout the winter brewing season. I'd also make batches of mead. Those were the days. Always wanted to make a distiller to make mead brandy. Home made liquor is illegal in the U.S. Which is bullshit.
 

orfeas

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Cannabis and tsipouro sounds like a demolition man that could blow both mind and body...intriguing though...will definitely give a try and see for meself...
Nevertheless, we do make a cold remedy potion diluting honey in tsipouro. A third ingredient might render the remedy more remedial...:)

Tsipouro used to be distilled under licence/surveillance by locals. All they needed was to pay a small fee at the police station and get the permit to run a couple of cauldrons. My old man used to tell me about the police checking the cauldrons to make sure that no additives other than grape remnants or anise were used. Mind you, it was for personal use only and not commercial!
Nowadays things have changed and a few entrepreneurs have got the licence to commercially produce the stuff. Moreover, they add wine in the cauldron to increase production. Yet, thank god, any individual can still produce their own with the same old formalities...for how much longer I don't know...

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orfeas love the malawi x pck pic's. the purple is impressive . i did not get that this time around but i have more in the vault

stay safe and keep it green
 

orfeas

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orfeas love the malawi x pck pic's. the purple is impressive . i did not get that this time around but i have more in the vault

stay safe and keep it green

Here's some more then of my gallant Malawi x PCK that hopefully comes down in a couple of weeks...deep purple hues are spreading all over...

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orfeas

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A week's gone by and this MPCK keeps pleasantly amazing me with its flourishing vigour, lovely colouration and outstanding resistance to mould, mind you it survived the "invincible" stem rot...

There are about twenty one-foot colas of a medium size wrist thickness, teeming with cloudy resin , amber one is sparse, which means I might as well harvest before/in the first quarter of the moon...

I clipped a lower bud to sample...despite my premonition this is going to be a real fine smoke...the one succumbed to stem rot couple of weeks ago IS a fine smoke in spite of its immaturity...

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Gemüse

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This Malawi PCK looks stunning with all the colors,i think it could also finish here. Wish you all the best for the upcoming harvest. How about Building a Greenhouse at the spot its growing? :peacock:
See you in the garden greetings Gemüse.
 
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