Malawi Style Cob Curing.

[stellarjay]

...some of us here would like to know about the process from a scientific view point....doing this is will help spread the word about cobbing and that's a good thing.

i get where you are coming from... i remember when i was about 18 years old and i ask my grandmother if she would teach me how to make biscuits. i had a pen and paper and was prepared to write down the exact amounts of every ingredient, exact temps, exact time... you get the picture.

so my grandmother reaches her hand into the flower bin and puts a handful of flower in a bowl. i asked her how much flower it was and she says "about that much." same with the salt, the baking powder, the water... she didn't measure anything! and yet she made the best biscuits ever! now many years later, so do i, and never the same way twice.

we're not splitting atoms here, we're just making a few cobbs.

 

[Tangwena]

i get where you are coming from... i remember when i was about 18 years old and i ask my grandmother if she would teach me how to make biscuits. i had a pen and paper and was prepared to write down the exact amounts of every ingredient, exact temps, exact time... you get the picture.

so my grandmother reaches her hand into the flower bin and puts a handful of flower in a bowl. i asked her how much flower it was and she says "about that much." same with the salt, the baking powder, the water... she didn't measure anything! and yet she made the best biscuits ever! now many years later, so do i, and never the same way twice.

we're not splitting atoms here, we're just making a few cobbs.

Well said I may quote you later, it couldn't be truer.

 

[Tangwena]

Hey Tangwena, much thanks to you brother for creating this thread and keeping it alive long enough for the doubters to become believers! You've really brought something to the table here. I learned from this thread and invented a new process that is derived from your idea. Basically bringing tobacco flue curing to the cannabis world! Check out this thread and let me know what you think!

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=8106876

This should be required reading my friend much respect for shining the light.
I cant remember the last time I saw green tobacco dried and used for smoking without curing.
Its the start of a new day with thinking like yours more power to you my friend.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=8106876

 

[HaHaHashish]

Originally Posted by stellarjay View Post
i get where you are coming from... i remember when i was about 18 years old and i ask my grandmother if she would teach me how to make biscuits. i had a pen and paper and was prepared to write down the exact amounts of every ingredient, exact temps, exact time... you get the picture.

so my grandmother reaches her hand into the flower bin and puts a handful of flower in a bowl. i asked her how much flower it was and she says "about that much." same with the salt, the baking powder, the water... she didn't measure anything! and yet she made the best biscuits ever! now many years later, so do i, and never the same way twice.

we're not splitting atoms here, we're just making a few cobbs.


I, just like you and Tangwena don't need hygrometers, thermometers or graphs to help me make cobs I'm happy with, the description here from tangwena and the whole thread full of questions and answers was exactly what I needed to learn, I'm also not into scientific exactness, but some people are, so don't dismiss the inevitable which will take nothing away from this craft style method description, it will just be a step by step list describing how to make great cobs with specific temperatures, humidity levels and durations.
There's a thread on ICmag called " A perfect cure every time" (or words to that effect) and describes curing but with specific temperatures, Rh levels and durations so you too can get a perfect cure. It's not for me, but I'm sure some benefited by it. It was the same with rosin, at first it was a simple how to method and now there are specific instructions to maximize quality and quantity.

Next time you look for a recipe online or in a book, does it say "just grab a handful of flower .." or add "cook in the oven until it look cooked"..no, they specify qtys and temps as there's a reason for it - not everyone has a Granny looking over their shoulder to help.

 

[Incognito721]

Alright Tang,
I've been lurking for weeks, but I made cobs and am ready to share. I finally registered to icmag and your thread gets my first post. Enjoy the cob pics.

critical+ cob

critical+ opened

critical+ x2, 1 melon gum, 1 cheese.

painkiller 2 different cob tries.

high humidity painkiller is darker and had a touch of mold. I cut the mold and quick dried for preservation. The high humidity painkiller had a powerful sweet funk. Filled the room whenever the vac sealed was cracked. I ate .5g of the dark painkiller. Deep body high. Long lasting, but hopefully better with time.

Now that I have some practice, I can crack the ACE gear and go wild with authentic Tang cobs.

Thank you Tangwena for schooling the world on the old tech. I'll post more as I have more.

Good vibes to all you cobbers.

 

[Incognito721]

To clarify my above post. Touch of mold came after heating and during my 1 month cure. My humidity was very high. Moist to touch. Following cobs were with lower humidity and had no mold. For those worried about pathogens I think it could be remedied by higher heat for 30 min to disinfect then resume temp for the remainder of the process. Can't say it won't affect the final product, but less fear of pathogens.

I've also considered adding other herbs to be fermented with cobs for added effects. MJ and chamomile, damiana, mugwort, psylocibin fungi etc... Higher? More therapeutic?

Something for the fellow cobbers to ponder on. Enjoy.

 

[stellarjay]

Well said I may quote you later, it couldn't be truer.

Quote away, brother.

 

[stellarjay]

[/I][/B]Next time you look for a recipe online or in a book, does it say "just grab a handful of flower .." or add "cook in the oven until it look cooked"..no, they specify qtys and temps as there's a reason for it - not everyone has a Granny looking over their shoulder to help.

Thanks for your engagement!

In current times it may appear as if sharing doesn't carry the same weight as teaching. Where the former is passing along concepts for another to benefit from, approve upon, and/or disregard while encouraging growth through the absence of limitations.

Like I see Tangwena do in this thread, my Grandmother was sharing with me a process. Originally I thought the process was for making biscuits. I now know she was sharing with me how to be a bit less rigid, enjoy myself, and to be open to learn.

My grandmother separated from her body years ago. I realize not everyone has had a grandmother to provide guidance, and yet, that is not the point. The point is to take from this thread what works for you, toss the rest, learn from your experiences, and be open to self amazement. And share.

 

[Tangwena]

Originally Posted by stellarjay View Post
i get where you are coming from... i remember when i was about 18 years old and i ask my grandmother if she would teach me how to make biscuits. i had a pen and paper and was prepared to write down the exact amounts of every ingredient, exact temps, exact time... you get the picture.

so my grandmother reaches her hand into the flower bin and puts a handful of flower in a bowl. i asked her how much flower it was and she says "about that much." same with the salt, the baking powder, the water... she didn't measure anything! and yet she made the best biscuits ever! now many years later, so do i, and never the same way twice.

we're not splitting atoms here, we're just making a few cobbs.


I, just like you and Tangwena don't need hygrometers, thermometers or graphs to help me make cobs I'm happy with, the description here from tangwena and the whole thread full of questions and answers was exactly what I needed to learn, I'm also not into scientific exactness, but some people are, so don't dismiss the inevitable which will take nothing away from this craft style method description, it will just be a step by step list describing how to make great cobs with specific temperatures, humidity levels and durations.
There's a thread on ICmag called " A perfect cure every time" (or words to that effect) and describes curing but with specific temperatures, Rh levels and durations so you too can get a perfect cure. It's not for me, but I'm sure some benefited by it. It was the same with rosin, at first it was a simple how to method and now there are specific instructions to maximize quality and quantity.

Next time you look for a recipe online or in a book, does it say "just grab a handful of flower .." or add "cook in the oven until it look cooked"..no, they specify qtys and temps as there's a reason for it - not everyone has a Granny looking over their shoulder to help.

My friend its very hard to say exact times and temps ect. Because of the great variance in the structure and density of buds.
What works for a airy sativa bud will not work for a dense indica nugget.
Its just a matter of using the recipe watching and smelling the progress and stopping when you see or get results you like.
Some like cobs black and dense like hash other like them red,gold ect.
Of course the taste is different with each change in color as are the effects. One size does not fit all you need to experiment and adjust the basic recipe to suite your needs.
Its easy and after a few tries you will quickly find the set of parameters that produce the product you like.

The beauty is all the people I know who use this method all have slightly different results some better than others that you can recognise as their work like a signature dish nobodies cooking tastes identicle even if they follow the same recipe.

 

[Tangwena]

Alright Tang,
I've been lurking for weeks, but I made cobs and am ready to share. I finally registered to icmag and your thread gets my first post. Enjoy the cob pics.

View Image critical+ cob
View Image critical+ opened
View Image critical+ x2, 1 melon gum, 1 cheese.
View Image painkiller 2 different cob tries.
View Image high humidity painkiller is darker and had a touch of mold. I cut the mold and quick dried for preservation. The high humidity painkiller had a powerful sweet funk. Filled the room whenever the vac sealed was cracked. I ate .5g of the dark painkiller. Deep body high. Long lasting, but hopefully better with time.

Now that I have some practice, I can crack the ACE gear and go wild with authentic Tang cobs.

Thank you Tangwena for schooling the world on the old tech. I'll post more as I have more.

Good vibes to all you cobbers.

Thank you my friend for posting the results of your foray into a new world of cured pot.
They look good the last pic has some nice coloration going on.
The results will of course depend on what went in.
I am not familiar with the names you mentioned but try some of Aces strong sativas.
Like Zamaldelica, Panama and my favorite Golden Tiger or even Malawi. They are easy to grow produce lots of buds and are super strong when fermented this way.
The cobs will improve as they age after 3 months of aging they loose the heavy feeling and get very clear. Just make sure to dry them to a smokeable moisture level before sealing them up to age and dont be shy to open and inspect them regularly to taste and smell them. Once you smell and taste what you want dry them more to stop further curing and lock in the stage you find best.
Much respect my friend and welcome to the cob club you have a lifetime membership.

 

[HaHaHashish]

for ghetto vacc-ing of cobs in reseal-able baggies, you can suck the air out yourself, but the best way is to place the bottom of plastic bag (with the cob inside) in a pot of just boiled water. It's best to leave the bag 10% open then submerge the bag slowly, this will shrink the sides of the bag inwards immediately, forcing the air up and out of the bag. Make sure you are holding open side of the bag up and out of the water (so no water gets inside the bag), use a wooden ladle (to prevent burns) to gradually push the bag slowly down into the water . when the water level is almost up to the seal, close the seal shut then lift up the bag and run your fingers (or fingernails) along the seal several times to make sure it really is 100% sealed. The bag will be shrink wrapped.

Is this as good as a vac machine?, no, but hey, this will do the job when you don't have one. Make sure to monitor the bags each day to make sure they are still look shrunken in and so are keeping the vacuum inside the bag.

Happy Cobbing!

 

[Chevy cHaze]

Smoking on that cobbed Jack Herer now

The smell has intesified over the weeks, it now smells like full on sweet carrots (?!). but the carrot smell was already in the dried flowers at the beginning, so nothing crazy, but it's def. nice.
Taste has changed dramatically through. A bit like I imagine vaping tobacco would taste?! with a mouthful of sweet carrots and hints of glue, like the one used to lay out carpets (again ?!) and it will stick to the back of your throat for quite some time.
The smell of the smoke is very sweet and heavy frankincense and it's easy to inhale, no tingling or any hint of harshness.
The effects are slightly hectic upbeat first 15min, thoughts racing a bit, now it's lessened out into a nice mild high. Not in the body, more "behind the eyes" hahaha.
Fuck, I'm stoned
Well, realising this is pretty much what everyone else said too, but now, having tried it myself, this is something I'll keep in my repertoire ( not as a fully mastered skill of course, but simply as a way to cure weed, learning the the details from here on). Maybe not all the time, but I have a feeling I'll always have cob or two around from now on
Enjoy your sunday,
CC

 

[Chevy cHaze]

Thanks Tangwena and all others who contributed here,
This one's for you

 

[Tangwena]

Chevy Chase put some sealed up away to age a re visit in a few months it will have changed even more and become more clearer to the point that you dont feel stoned at all just at peace and able to see clearly things that you cant see stoned.
A bit of experimentation with the drying and sweating times and you will find it will get even better.
Thank you for posting your experience and welcome to the cob club my friend.

 

[Chevy cHaze]

Yeah Tangwena,
Just out of curiosity I took them both out again today.
(The bit I smoked today had been taken off the cob a couple weeks earlier, which was then resealed, and was stored in a small jar if anyone remembers).
It still has some moisture, so it doesn't dry crumble yet.
The slight ammonia part of the fermenting berries/lemon smell of the Sour Blueberry has worn off a bit, the Jack Herer still smells carrots and carpet glue. Sealed them both back up and will return occasionally. Or maybe just wait 2-3 months before going back ?

 

[the_niño]

def gotta give this a try sometime

 

[Tangwena]

Yeah Tangwena,
Just out of curiosity I took them both out again today.
(The bit I smoked today had been taken off the cob a couple weeks earlier, which was then resealed, and was stored in a small jar if anyone remembers).
It still has some moisture, so it doesn't dry crumble yet.
The slight ammonia part of the fermenting berries/lemon smell of the Sour Blueberry has worn off a bit, the Jack Herer still smells carrots and carpet glue. Sealed them both back up and will return occasionally. Or maybe just wait 2-3 months before going back ?

Sample and inspect often everyone likes it differently you need to find your prefered way to cure if you find that slot dry the cob to stop further fermentation and reseal to age.
A friend of mine Uniborzum aka the Saint dropped in the other day and because he is the Saint left me some samples.
The guy grows the best pot outside in the sun. But its his curing skills that have my attention.
His cobs are one of a kind the Chopper Read (by southern star seeds) in the picture has the consistency and smell of the best Pakistani hash it literally stinks up the room when you open the bag.
The high is party party party time no sleeping on this gear it has you jumping around like a grasshopper on speed also no paranoia just a cocky self assured smiling and laughing trip. You feel like Errol Flynn on this gear, you know what I mean the guy with the long sword ha ha.

 

[CannaRed]

. Here's purple jar cured and a purple cob. https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74758&pictureid=1799980

 

[CannaRed]

Can't figure out how to post pic

 

[Tangwena]

Upload to an album you create in your IC then you can add them to your posts soundslike something I would like to see.