Malawi Style Cob Curing.

[Shadowsfall]

Thx 4 reply didn't have vac seal this time so I tried wrapping real tight with saran wrap I thought I remember u mentioning somewhere here I checked them 2 days ago and no mold gonna check again weekly until I get em visually different and try different time cures

 

[CannaRed]

Tried again last night. Got a vacuum sealer. Cobbed up some completely purple buds that's were on the damp side. Also cobbed some stinky cat piss buds that had black fan leaves at end of cycle. Sealed and placed in crock pot overnight. Took out to dry tonight. Will reseal soon depending on drying time

 

[Tangwena]

Tried again last night. Got a vacuum sealer. Cobbed up some completely purple buds that's were on the damp side. Also cobbed some stinky cat piss buds that had black fan leaves at end of cycle. Sealed and placed in crock pot overnight. Took out to dry tonight. Will reseal soon depending on drying time

Thats going to produce some interesting results please please post some pics of before and after or whatever you can.

good luck sounds like its going to stink if you get it right ha ha.

 

[HaHaHashish]

Thx 4 reply didn't have vac seal this time so I tried wrapping real tight with saran wrap I thought I remember u mentioning somewhere here I checked them 2 days ago and no mold gonna check again weekly until I get em visually different and try different time cures

Mold can happen with Saran wrapped cob, and in the words of J-Roc "If it can happen to me, it can happen to you" and it did during a really humid few weeks here on one out of 5 cobs that were a little wetter than usual, after a few weeks, there was just a little white veining, that was scrapped off and then the cob was dried for half a day then re-wrapped.

Good thinking on unwrapping your Saran wrapped cobs every few days to check with a magnifying glass and your nose, to see if mold is developing. I'd also suggest placing the cobs in a mid to low Rh environment which will lessen the chance of mold. An still place the Saran wrapped cobs in a seal-able plastic sandwich bag and even without a vac apparatus, you can vac seal the bag by sucking out the air then quickly sealing it. The bags with the double seal are best, the single seal sandwich bags I've used tend to lose their vac seal really fast. I really need to get a vac/sealing machine .

 

[HaHaHashish]

to seal a sandwioh bag manually, press down and close the seals on 90% of the bag opening as you suck all the air out of the bag not stopping until all the air is "vacc-ed" out of the bag and then quickly seal it (while still inhaling).

 

[Tangwena]

to seal a sandwioh bag manually, press down and close the seals on 90% of the bag opening as you suck all the air out of the bag not stopping until all the air is "vacc-ed" out of the bag and then quickly seal it (while still inhaling).

This can work but I dont recommend it unless you have buds to loose.
If you only have a few buds its a gamble, of course it can work just not guaranteed every time.
Be careful mold gets established very quickly I have lost a few cobs over the years either fully dry them or vac seal its the only sure way to be sure to avoid it.

 

[Tangwena]

Rogues Gallery

Rogues Gallery

Here is some work by others who have taken like ducks to water to cob curing.
Some before and after shots and the results of good curing.
This is what its about if you part dry and vac seal the slightly moist cobs after drying you can get some very dark and deep trippy highs.

 

[Gr33nSanta]

might be a stupid question but have you ever gotten some tested before and after? like for cannabinoids AND terpenes? that was not the stupid question yet. are you sure that what's getting you deep high isnt from mold that might be there and or fungi or bacteria or shtuff??

 

[clearheaded]

I think increase in ammonia ie cat pissy increases uptake or speed of uptake in the lugs similar to why add it to cigs and or chew. and created in none o2 break down.

increase cbn beleive it is more potent then delta9.

compressed as OP said.

or because ALL chlorophyl is broken down it is smooth and can take larger hits or feels like smoking less??

just a few theories but I am with you would be cool to see the test!! have any access to a lab?

 

[Tangwena]

There was a test done way back in the thread one for mold....zero. One for thc ect not much change.
Did you ever consider it might be something else causing the changed high. Theorising is all well and good but as there is zero data to speak of its like talking about Mars, unless you've been there its just speculation at best.
This technique has been around for ever in Africa its just new in the West.
I am not trying to sell it just put it out there for anyone who wants to open their eyes and not follow a mantra that started in the 50's and 60's.
Whatever gets you high is fine if you are happy with what you have great. If you travel outside the west believe it or not there are other people who dont have access to the internet or western science who manage to get high without them.

 

[Chevy cHaze]

I think I'll give mine a try (smoking) tonight or tomorrow. I have seen great change even in the glass cured rest of the harvests ( Jack Herer and Sour Blueberry) to a point where they have both become somewhat psychedelic.
Now on to the cobbed stuff!
(took some bits out and resealed the cobs about 2-3 weeks ago.
I'm a bit nervous as even from the glass cured samples I can only smoke like 4-6 puffs and that gets my heart racing and thoughts of fear and death come over me for about 10-15 minutes before it lessens out into a really nice high. Massive sugar intake and lying down however helps against the feelings of fear (?!). It's like a panic attack, a balancing act of thoughts, not to slip and glide down the steep slope to the dark side, but you have to go through it every time to get to a very very nice place. I might be overworked too...
Intense

Best,

CC

 

[Gr33nSanta]

There was a test done way back in the thread one for mold....zero. One for thc ect not much change.
Did you ever consider it might be something else causing the changed high. Theorising is all well and good but as there is zero data to speak of its like talking about Mars, unless you've been there its just speculation at best.
This technique has been around for ever in Africa its just new in the West.
I am not trying to sell it just put it out there for anyone who wants to open their eyes and not follow a mantra that started in the 50's and 60's.
Whatever gets you high is fine if you are happy with what you have great. If you travel outside the west believe it or not there are other people who dont have access to the internet or western science who manage to get high without them.

Thanks, but I think those are legit concerns people have looking at this thread for the first time.

I am very interested in trying it at some point, but I do not have a vacuum sealer yet, I always cure my weed in jars and it stays there.

Id love to try from someone that knows what they are doing first. .. It's kind of like sauerkraut, kimchi, kombucha .... I know it's easy to make but I just don't trust myself with that stuff!

 

[HaHaHashish]

Science is coming to be cobbing. Soon there will be posts from cob makers who have constantly monitored and recorded all the humidity levels and temperatures the cob was exposed to for several months. This type of information will be really appreciated by those who need a step by step process to follow.

 

[HaHaHashish]

I am very interested in trying it at some point,

If bud is plenty, then perhaps try cobbing with a small cob or two first, about as thick as your little finger and a little longer worked for me and keep some of the same bud in jars cured as usual and compare the two methods in a few months time.

 

[AgentPothead]

Oh man I don't have anything constructive to add, I am just bummed out you lost your pics Tang.

 

[clearheaded]

ya not knocking it just sharing what i think are some possibilities to WHY people experience what they do.

What was the change in THC? was cbn tested aswell? safe to assume any statistical valid loss would be cbn. which isnt bad or good just will change effects

but again have a real feeling that ammonia is causing they way it "hits" you.

here is a study for smokes incase folks dont know about ammonia in darts. change ph which affects absorbtion which MAY happen with THC aswell as would potentially make it less lipophylic. or increase blood flow and/or "open things up". just theory


have you noticed more cat pissy the harder it hits? maybe something to pay attention to. or perhaps allows absorbtion of dif chemicals faster or better which changes effect and not just thc. again not bad or good, just may be why notice difference in effects


only way could become more potent thc wise is conversion of cbd to thc which would mean only increase in 1% depending on the cultivar. sorta surprised not seeing kids convert cbd xls from china to thc as fairly straight forward chem. but prob best we dont let that out as dont want crack down on the cbd. and should just grow a plant instead.

 

[Tangwena]

ya not knocking it just sharing what i think are some possibilities to WHY people experience what they do.

What was the change in THC? was cbn tested aswell? safe to assume any statistical valid loss would be cbn. which isnt bad or good just will change effects

but again have a real feeling that ammonia is causing they way it "hits" you.

here is a study for smokes incase folks dont know about ammonia in darts. change ph which affects absorbtion which MAY happen with THC aswell as would potentially make it less lipophylic. or increase blood flow and/or "open things up". just theory


have you noticed more cat pissy the harder it hits? maybe something to pay attention to. or perhaps allows absorbtion of dif chemicals faster or better which changes effect and not just thc. again not bad or good, just may be why notice difference in effects


only way could become more potent thc wise is conversion of cbd to thc which would mean only increase in 1% depending on the cultivar. sorta surprised not seeing kids convert cbd xls from china to thc as fairly straight forward chem. but prob best we dont let that out as dont want crack down on the cbd. and should just grow a plant instead.

The cat piss smell i was refering to was in the green growing buds so I dont know where you got that from.
The cobs should smell sweet like fermenting fruit or hashish when opened.
Anyone who needs scientific evidence should not do this as there isn't any that I know of.
Trying it will be the only way to tell if you like it, even then the chance of a first attempt getting it right is remote.
You either trust the old ways or you dont, just dont speculate on something you dont have any experience with.
A lot of very experienced long time smokers have found they like this method. Thats good enough for me I was only ever hoping to give them a glimpse of the old effects most of them still seek.

That some of them are happy using this technique is reward enough for me.
Endless speculation and chat without substance is demeaning to the traditional practitioners of this technique and not worth entering into.

 

[Tangwena]

Oh man I don't have anything constructive to add, I am just bummed out you lost your pics Tang.

Me to but i have a library of pics from other cobbers on other sites so no biggy.
I will post a step by step for anyone interested in a new thread after I harvest my next lot of plants in the New Year then link it to this thread so all will still be ok.
Believe it or not a lot of very respected (by me) experienced smokers are now using this method privately there is no shortage of very good cob pictures around if you know where to look.

 

[log roller]

Hey Tangwena, much thanks to you brother for creating this thread and keeping it alive long enough for the doubters to become believers! You've really brought something to the table here. I learned from this thread and invented a new process that is derived from your idea. Basically bringing tobacco flue curing to the cannabis world! Check out this thread and let me know what you think!

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=8106876

 

[HaHaHashish]

What was the change in THC? was cbn tested aswell? safe to assume any statistical valid loss would be cbn. which isnt bad or good just will change effects

I would suggest that the THC in cobs does not change, but the terpenes (which we now know modulates and affects the high effects of THC) is affected by the cobbing process and this accounts for the differences in the highs between cobbed and standard cured buds (from the same plant).
My theory is that CO2 is produced inside the cob during the first month of cobbing and this does something to the terpenes which accounts for the differences...or it might be as simple as the terpenes are locked in and changed with cobbing that does it. Scientific monitoring and data analysis will tell us.

Endless speculation and chat without substance is demeaning to the traditional practitioners of this technique and not worth entering into.

No one is taking anything away or being demeaning to anyone, it's just that some of us here would like to know about the process from a scientific view point....doing this is will help spread the word about cobbing and that's a good thing.