You started a quiet revolution, Senor Tang. I just noticed that this thread has been read a whopping 120 thousand times, since you started it. The Chinese Year of the Cob is in progress, for sure.
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Malawi Style Cob Curing.
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seeded
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So I survived the house repairs which actually turned into the extended list of bullshit my landlord has put off for years. I'm deadset the luckiest son of a bitch to walk the face of this Earth so time for the promised review 
I chewed around half a gram and instantly noticed a softer, sweeter taste much more like normal cured SSH (menthol, tea tree oil, terps, etc.) than the 62% stuff which is spicier or something. It's hard to describe really but there's a slight kind of burn to it thats no where near as strong on the 75% stuff which now has much more pleasant flavours. It's spongier and dissolves more than the 62% stuff too. The high didn't feel as strong but only because it's less stoney. It still has the stoned feeling to it like the 62% buds but its definitely been lessened and taken some oomph with it though it does feel calmer and happier for it which I really do like.
I guess in short it's the same just tastier and slightly softer and friendlier without so much of the stoned feeling. I'll check the 69% stuff tomorrow to see how it compares and will report back with my findings but it's become obvious to me that just like cooking at a higher temperature or for a longer amount of time there will be a very noticeable difference in the quality produced when the buds are cooked and cured with different amounts of moisture. It really warrants looking into further so although it's not going to be massively accurate I'll get my hands on all the different boveda packs and cook one of my better girls up at harvest with the only variable being the humidity level to see what happens. It will be a good 4 months before I can report back with results though so if someone wants to do the experiment before me please have at it as I'm keen as mustard to see your results.
I chewed around half a gram and instantly noticed a softer, sweeter taste much more like normal cured SSH (menthol, tea tree oil, terps, etc.) than the 62% stuff which is spicier or something. It's hard to describe really but there's a slight kind of burn to it thats no where near as strong on the 75% stuff which now has much more pleasant flavours. It's spongier and dissolves more than the 62% stuff too. The high didn't feel as strong but only because it's less stoney. It still has the stoned feeling to it like the 62% buds but its definitely been lessened and taken some oomph with it though it does feel calmer and happier for it which I really do like.
I guess in short it's the same just tastier and slightly softer and friendlier without so much of the stoned feeling. I'll check the 69% stuff tomorrow to see how it compares and will report back with my findings but it's become obvious to me that just like cooking at a higher temperature or for a longer amount of time there will be a very noticeable difference in the quality produced when the buds are cooked and cured with different amounts of moisture. It really warrants looking into further so although it's not going to be massively accurate I'll get my hands on all the different boveda packs and cook one of my better girls up at harvest with the only variable being the humidity level to see what happens. It will be a good 4 months before I can report back with results though so if someone wants to do the experiment before me please have at it as I'm keen as mustard to see your results.
Hiya Seeded - were the different sample materials sweated and treated the same prior to the bovedas? are you vacsealing with the bovedas or just jarring after a sweat and with the bov?
Be careful about the higher humidity in a non-vacumned environment, the more moist they are the greater the chance of growing mold in a non vacumn.
I do keep mine fairly moist/soft for about 3 months but they are always vacsealed to prevent loss of cob to mold. Then I'll open them and dry them out some more (weigh them before and after to see how much water was shed) and then re-vacseal. My mango haze cobs have had 2 or 3 dry sessions, but each time i'm just drying out a bit, not totally. then back in vacseal..
to consume, i'll cut off a ~10gram chunk and let it fully air dry out. the cob will dry hard and mine can be shaved with a razor or cut into into a coin like a quarter, which is about 1g more or less. generally i use a scale to get an accurate dosage too. lol don't guesstimate with a good cob...
i compress most of my cobs very tightly into a 1" cylinder pvc tool i made for this purpose, i call it my TangStick tool and the cobs I make with it I coined the term "TangStick" in honor of his Tangyness
Be careful about the higher humidity in a non-vacumned environment, the more moist they are the greater the chance of growing mold in a non vacumn.
I do keep mine fairly moist/soft for about 3 months but they are always vacsealed to prevent loss of cob to mold. Then I'll open them and dry them out some more (weigh them before and after to see how much water was shed) and then re-vacseal. My mango haze cobs have had 2 or 3 dry sessions, but each time i'm just drying out a bit, not totally. then back in vacseal..
to consume, i'll cut off a ~10gram chunk and let it fully air dry out. the cob will dry hard and mine can be shaved with a razor or cut into into a coin like a quarter, which is about 1g more or less. generally i use a scale to get an accurate dosage too. lol don't guesstimate with a good cob...
i compress most of my cobs very tightly into a 1" cylinder pvc tool i made for this purpose, i call it my TangStick tool and the cobs I make with it I coined the term "TangStick" in honor of his Tangyness
Snook
Still Learning
WTF happened to 3/4" pvc cobilusMcky stick maker? now 1"? just bustinem McK... u suing jogurt maker?
You have opened Pandoras box my friend, now you see why sharing on this forum helps so much. There are so many different options it just gets all consuming doesn't it. You are asking the right questions my friend.So I survived the house repairs which actually turned into the extended list of bullshit my landlord has put off for years. I'm deadset the luckiest son of a bitch to walk the face of this Earth so time for the promised review
I chewed around half a gram and instantly noticed a softer, sweeter taste much more like normal cured SSH (menthol, tea tree oil, terps, etc.) than the 62% stuff which is spicier or something. It's hard to describe really but there's a slight kind of burn to it thats no where near as strong on the 75% stuff which now has much more pleasant flavours. It's spongier and dissolves more than the 62% stuff too. The high didn't feel as strong but only because it's less stoney. It still has the stoned feeling to it like the 62% buds but its definitely been lessened and taken some oomph with it though it does feel calmer and happier for it which I really do like.
I guess in short it's the same just tastier and slightly softer and friendlier without so much of the stoned feeling. I'll check the 69% stuff tomorrow to see how it compares and will report back with my findings but it's become obvious to me that just like cooking at a higher temperature or for a longer amount of time there will be a very noticeable difference in the quality produced when the buds are cooked and cured with different amounts of moisture. It really warrants looking into further so although it's not going to be massively accurate I'll get my hands on all the different boveda packs and cook one of my better girls up at harvest with the only variable being the humidity level to see what happens. It will be a good 4 months before I can report back with results though so if someone wants to do the experiment before me please have at it as I'm keen as mustard to see your results.
Tangwena
Nicely put my brother cobber, this is the voice of experience.
Tangwena
seeded
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The bud I used was all from the same ssh brick I cooked for 24 hours at 40c and then split up to dry out a bit. I then put it in ziplock bags because I don't have a vacuum sealer but I squeezed the crap out of them getting the vast majority of the air out and then put all the bags in a jar.
I'm not really concerned about them going bad as they would have started showing signs of infection by now. I was a bit worried at first so I dried the buds out a bit more than I needed to after cooking them up but the boveda packs have been working their magic since. I've got my eyes on a decent vacuum sealer which I'll be buying before my next harvest though so I'll do it properly next time and feel a bit safer risking the higher moisture contents too
Mulanji harvest
Mulanji harvest
Here is my last harvest for a few months, this plant had light airy type buds we shall see what they produce in a month or so. Half will be sweated in the yogurt maker for a day then left at room temp (30c) for a month in the vacuum bag. The other half will be sweated for 3 days in the yogurt maker before also being left for a month at 30c.
I will post before and after pics when I open them in a month or so.
Tangwena
Mulanji harvest
Here is my last harvest for a few months, this plant had light airy type buds we shall see what they produce in a month or so. Half will be sweated in the yogurt maker for a day then left at room temp (30c) for a month in the vacuum bag. The other half will be sweated for 3 days in the yogurt maker before also being left for a month at 30c.
I will post before and after pics when I open them in a month or so.
Tangwena
Coola seeded. Just beware if you smell any ammonia like smell when you open them. Ammonia smell is not good and means rotten moldy cob and should be discarded if so. I lost one cob this way by leaving a wrapped and wet cob out for several days before my initial vacseal prior to sweating. After the sweat it was white in spots and but the mold runs thruought the cob, not just the outside... so the entire cob is bad if you smell any ammonia imo.
Youll love it when u can vacseal friend
Youll love it when u can vacseal friend
Mulanji cobs
Mulanji cobs
I cut this plant at 12 weeks 3 days ago, hung it for 24hrs, made some cobs, sweated them for 24hrs and 36hrs in two batches in a yogurt maker.
I have just opened the vac bags and removed access moisture with paper towels.
Bound the cobs up slightly tighter and then re sealed them in vac bags to continue curing at room temps around 30c day and 20c night.
I will leave them for a month to cold cure during which time they will mature the resins to get the amber and caramel colors I am looking for.
After a month they will be dried 50% from what they are at present which is wet.
Then stored until they are at least 3 months old from harvest. Then they should be just starting to get powerful. I expect these to be day changers when they are finished. If the buds were just dried and jarred this would be very weak weed. But this cure will turn them trippy in the extreme.
Some before and after (24/36hrs) pics. These will turn golden at the end of this cold cure.
Tangwena
Mulanji cobs
I cut this plant at 12 weeks 3 days ago, hung it for 24hrs, made some cobs, sweated them for 24hrs and 36hrs in two batches in a yogurt maker.
I have just opened the vac bags and removed access moisture with paper towels.
Bound the cobs up slightly tighter and then re sealed them in vac bags to continue curing at room temps around 30c day and 20c night.
I will leave them for a month to cold cure during which time they will mature the resins to get the amber and caramel colors I am looking for.
After a month they will be dried 50% from what they are at present which is wet.
Then stored until they are at least 3 months old from harvest. Then they should be just starting to get powerful. I expect these to be day changers when they are finished. If the buds were just dried and jarred this would be very weak weed. But this cure will turn them trippy in the extreme.
Some before and after (24/36hrs) pics. These will turn golden at the end of this cold cure.
Tangwena
Gold
Gold
Here are some buds I prepared earlier as they say on tv. These were sweated at 40c for 24hrs they were quite green only 48hrs from harvest.
After sweating they were sealed for a month and then dried and aged for 2 months. They have a very trippy effect and are very strong and energetic.
Gold
Here are some buds I prepared earlier as they say on tv. These were sweated at 40c for 24hrs they were quite green only 48hrs from harvest.
After sweating they were sealed for a month and then dried and aged for 2 months. They have a very trippy effect and are very strong and energetic.
I'm just starting going through this thread. Fascinating.
I've always liked the fermented cure...but hadn't worked out a reliable method.
Well, back to reading. Thanks!
I've always liked the fermented cure...but hadn't worked out a reliable method.
Well, back to reading. Thanks!
led05
Chasing The Present
Great Thread
Great Thread
Tang, what a great thread, thank you...
When corn is not in season, a little parchment paper (wrap it up like a huge J ) is plenty strong enough and breaths decently. Put a little lettuce / field greens in the bottom of the bag to function as moisture / corn husk and parchment acts as a minor barrier from the canna and then seal and do same steps, both within the plastic bag and then sealed...
A seed heat mat and humidity dome w blanket on top is items many already have vs the Yogurt maker and work the same... Also offers a much larger area to work with depending on mat / dome size... Hefty clear plastic containers at HD or Lowes work great as large domes and cheap...
Cheers
Great Thread
Tang, what a great thread, thank you...
When corn is not in season, a little parchment paper (wrap it up like a huge J ) is plenty strong enough and breaths decently. Put a little lettuce / field greens in the bottom of the bag to function as moisture / corn husk and parchment acts as a minor barrier from the canna and then seal and do same steps, both within the plastic bag and then sealed...
A seed heat mat and humidity dome w blanket on top is items many already have vs the Yogurt maker and work the same... Also offers a much larger area to work with depending on mat / dome size... Hefty clear plastic containers at HD or Lowes work great as large domes and cheap...
Cheers
Just get a decent vacuum sealer, sunbeam food saver is what I have got I use it to seal my fish fillets ect. I use a Yogurt Maker $60 from ebay but any heat sauce will do to sweat the sealed cobs.
Some members use a crock pot the sort you cook stews in set to minimum.
I used to put the sealed cobs in my attic or in my car parked in the sun all day, but the temps are all over the place anything with a controlled temp is fine.
Best of luck please post the results so we can learn from each other. The highs once aged make it well worth the gamble. Its only a gamble the first time after that its easy and you get right into it.
Tangwena
Hi my friend great to hear you found another alternative to corn, any pictures? I would love to see some of the finished product, even better a before and after shot of the buds.
Tangwena
led05
Chasing The Present
Tang, pics I'm not so comfortable w based on being in a bad US state (don't want to flaunt to the man, a personal choice), at least for time being. It works perfectly fwiw.
The parchment is great though. It's versatile, rolls easily, forms tightly to whatever shape your hearts desire, won't stick at all, can be washed / re-used and wetted down / strung out if moisture is needed, the field greens actually are unnecessary tbh and mainly parchment is always avail anywhere. - String is still used to tie up tightly -
Pressure and right temps are key. The pressure also will preserve the innards better LT. When these are done it reminds me kind of the way Frenchy does his hash (little heat & pressure) but of course the fermentation piece is diff but seems old school hash tech and this have a lot of commonality.
The temps in the dome with seed heating mat runs 105-115F (your choosing) and can be locked in to within 1 degree F with a good blanket / sleeping bag over the top... Personally I think lower temps and a bit slower is well worth the wait, especially considering this is going to sit for a month or three as you like to say!
Cob on
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Awesome info thanks for sharing it. Pitty about the pics but totally understandable.
I too prefer the slow long cures they always keep more taste as well as power. Saying that the black cobs from the higher temps can get scary strong, too strong for my taste sometimes and I like them strong ha ha
Every plant benefits from a slightly different cure, its only experience with that plant that will let you bring out its full potential with this cure. Once you get it perfect for one plant its time to start on another, it never ends just like growing its a life long journey.
Tangwena
led05
Chasing The Present
forgot to mention.. The dome and heat mat also make for a perfect quick drying spot after sweat but below temps that will degrade terps - normal range is 95-100F with 15-20% humidity if room ambient is 70F / 50% humidity or thereabouts... (Seed Heat Mat - plastic tray sits upside down inside to raise off heat mat and make a climate zone (no hot spots / direct contact) you set things on (for both sweat/dry etc) and then cover goes over all this) - Likely all things people already have and seems to work perfectly, funny how that happens....
Once drying it's not inside bag of course anymore, blanket cover off - smells are wonderful
The effects depend on the type of weed sativas are the best high IMO but everyone has their own preference.I read this thread twice and can't go through it again, too long
But do I remember right that you get the clearest effect with low temperatures and warmer temperatures mean more confusing/disorientating?
How does the length of the pre-vacuum sweat influence the clarity?
Cob on
I find low temps say 30 to 35c give more speedy energetic type of high, while higher temps 40 to 55c for say 3 days give more debilitating narcotic but not sleepy effects. Both are strong and clear just deeper effects on the higher temps.
Whether it is disorienting or not depends on the strain.
My Swazi is fully clear and focused you can enjoy working and have heaps of energy all while feeling like you can jump out of your skin.
While a large dose of GT will drop me onto the floor and have Opium type dreams in my head while being fully awake just not able to move for and hour or two before coming round into a trippy cartoon like world for 4 to 6 hours. This is chewed of course I dont smoke any more.
The cure brings out the potential of the weed you are using, some weed has nothing more to offer than a lethargic stone. You need good quality sativa strains they have a much bigger variation of effects and fermentation brings out effects not found when you just dry and jar the same buds. Thats the gold in this method it will not improve weed that has nothing to offer other than sedation.
Tangwena
