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LJ farming

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All good bro, the thread's about sharing the knowledge, and the conversation just helps everyone.

Put together a Mars Hydro FCE-8000 for veg... I can do without ever doing that again. Just little pains in the ass, lack of tight tolerances for threaded pieces making for sore thumbs... An interesting design, but would have nightmares about building out a room of 20 lights with these things and setup...

Remote ballast is cool at least...

Added a new circulation fan in the big boy room also. Behind on the defo work, hopefully we'll crank that out tomorrow and maybe some new pics at 4 weeks in.

Good vibes all,
LD
I too unfortunately bought 2 MARS hydro 300 or 3000 something something’s 300 wattish lights for my veg and completely concur that I am rather disappointed in my purchase. Oh well just like everything else live and learn I guess. However for anyone thinking about purchasing a MARS light you get 30 days no questions asked and free returns on Amazon if you also are not pleased with your purchase!

Peace out,

LJ
 
Hey Lou, enjoying your show.

So how's the spectrum king doing? I've heard those are the very best. What's your feeling so far.

I'm going to watch I see how it all turns out. Very curious.

Take care
 

LostTribe

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All good bro, the thread's about sharing the knowledge, and the conversation just helps everyone.

Put together a Mars Hydro FCE-8000 for veg... I can do without ever doing that again. Just little pains in the ass, lack of tight tolerances for threaded pieces making for sore thumbs... An interesting design, but would have nightmares about building out a room of 20 lights with these things and setup...

Remote ballast is cool at least...

Added a new circulation fan in the big boy room also. Behind on the defo work, hopefully we'll crank that out tomorrow and maybe some new pics at 4 weeks in.

Good vibes all,
LD
Was it just assembling the mars lights that you didnt like or anything else?
 

LouDog420

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Hey Lou, enjoying your show.

So how's the spectrum king doing? I've heard those are the very best. What's your feeling so far.

I'm going to watch I see how it all turns out. Very curious.

Take care

It's growing nice plants so far. It doesn't have a dimming option though, which I don't like.

Easy setup and happy plants, so otherwise can't complain
 

LouDog420

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Was it just assembling the mars lights that you didnt like or anything else?
Assembly for sure, I don't like the hanging cords that attach to each bar, the tolerance for the bolts were not good (had an issue installing one of the hanging supports), and it just feels cheap.

The remote ballast is nice since I'm running it in a tent, but not critical for any sort of larger room/commercial that's running cooling/AC.

10x the amount of time for setup vs other bar lights that come mostly assembled, and the goal here is planning for a commercial grow.

Easy to tell, out of the five leds we're running, the Mars light is the lowest quality (it was also the lowest price, so value may be in line, just not ideal for my purpose).

Hope this helps,
LD
 

LJ farming

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The cords hanging ALL OVER the place is seriously cheezzzzyyyy. But as LD said they seem to be doing fine for veg but if I had it to do over again I would have definitely spent the extra $150-175 for a higher quality light.

I have also read horror stories about their warranty and how they deal with it. But just like everything else live and learn and try/don’t make the same mistakes 2 times. For a small hobby grower on a tight budget I feel like they would be an ok option possibly but if you have the extra 20-25% definitely go with a quality light with a 5 year no questions asked bumper to bumper warranty. That’s just my 2 cents.

Happy Sunday Funday all……

Peace out,

LJ
 

LouDog420

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Gotta check and recheck my calendar... Only at 28 days... Doesn't look or feel like it. Chunk is good, but I worry about late bloom mold.

Not quite done with defo, still working through, maybe 65% done on top and 85% done under their carriage.

Thought we had a leak in the pond liner/drain. Was rolling around on the ground. Leak testing. Cut down my drainage (an unneeded section, leftover from the time of the trees). Finally found it. Drip line end at the plant was slightly angled up, so when the pump shot on, it would shoot out just enough to make a little puddle on the ground. Multiple 7x per day, and it was just enough to make me think there was a leak. ;)

Added a third circulation fan (there's no lack of muffin fans around this house).

Dehui keeps cycling off, even when set on continous. Thinking it might have been angled slightly so auto-drain was tripping the float. Tilted the unit a bit, only other alternative is defective, so if that doesn't do it, back it goes.

A day in the life.

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5'x5' Veg under the Mars Hydro FC-E 8000. Seeds this round are a bunch of Violeta (purple malawi x pakistan chitral kush) from Ace/dubi and a couple peyote purple from charlie/kaiki/cannabiogen
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LJ farming

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I am day 8 today and trying to catch up with you bud your grow looks killer!

This run I’m running Ice Cream Cake 1/2 the room and Sticky Buns and Uncle Bucks Punch on the other half. I have a feeling you have me smoked in the genetics department along with all the other departments at the end of the day.

Peace out,

LJ

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LouDog420

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Day 30, cruising... Absolutely concerned with mold come late flower with the size so far.

Our dehui was defective, have a new one running continuous and can keep rh down to 50-55%

Some grow more calmag arriving today and will get incorporated into the regimen...

Good vibes all

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DunHav`nFun

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Seems like I remember you sayin at the beginning of the thread that you were gonna incorporate the old head tried and true left coast commercial grower trick of complete exhaust of sealed room air during lights out right bro ?.......and damn son.......

Bitches be blowin up ya think ?.......Top shelf job so far , and......glad to see Gman back around.....Hopefully he`ll grace us with a new thread when he gets settled in his new digs and......Keep the muffin fans above AND below the tables blowin not AT the plants but around em with a "vortex" of air movin from 1 corner to the next all the way round em and hopefully all will be well by end of cycle.........anyways......

Keep strokin Lou , you got this so.......Take care and......

Peace......DHF.......
 

LouDog420

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Seems like I remember you sayin at the beginning of the thread that you were gonna incorporate the old head tried and true left coast commercial grower trick of complete exhaust of sealed room air during lights out right bro ?.......and damn son.......

Bitches be blowin up ya think ?.......Top shelf job so far , and......glad to see Gman back around.....Hopefully he`ll grace us with a new thread when he gets settled in his new digs and......Keep the muffin fans above AND below the tables blowin not AT the plants but around em with a "vortex" of air movin from 1 corner to the next all the way round em and hopefully all will be well by end of cycle.........anyways......

Keep strokin Lou , you got this so.......Take care and......

Peace......DHF.......

Yep, I've had that sealed/exhaust hybrid system going the whole time. I have 3 motorized dampers set on timers. Lights on, dampers either open or close depending on the location and makes the room sealed/recirc. Lights off, the dampers reverse orientation and the room runs as standard intake/exhaust.

Lol, shit is definitely blowing up. Have 3 circ fans running now, might throw another blowing under each side of the canopy. Plenty of muffin fans sitting around this house ;)

Pic of exhaust/intake/recirc setup below:

  • Far left and on top motorized damper is the cold air intake.
    • It's non-operational at the moment. We flick that on once it gets too cold to run AC.
  • Moving one damper to the right....
    • Next is dedicated intake
    • Third is recirculation connection (with round pink insulation above it)
    • Far right is dedicated exhaust
Pics should make the system fairly self-explanatory, but hit me with questions if there's any. Not the cheapest solution at $65/motorized damper, but does the job great.

8" intake and exhaust fans
8" to 6" duct wyes
6" motorized dampers

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DunHav`nFun

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Lights out RH and CO2 spikes are the ONLY culprits that cause and proliferate anaerobic activity in a sealed grow area and as long as you keep air moving around and through the plants passively 24/7 then you got no worries with any type of molds or mildews IME bro.....but.....

You prolly know I never ran a sealed room in my life with air exchange twice per minute rulin my world down in the Hell of my dirty south where RH stays in the 80-90 percentile most of the yr , and the wall and flooir fans I used always blowin fresh air around my bitches never not once did I ever experience any shit formin on my nuggage with dehuey`s as an emergency tool rarely even turned on except durin cold ass winter storms when it rained for days on end.......and......

I like that apparatus you got with those motorized dampers , and folks should take notice and follow suit to keep shit from being the MAIN problem sealed room growers deal with run after run during lights out when the plants shit out all the water vapor AND CO2 they didn`t eat during lights on.......anyways......

Carry on LD and keep up the good work on what definitely looks like a bumper crop to my old ass and I`ve seen a dialed setup or 2 in my day.....

Peace......DHF......
 

LJ farming

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Day 30, cruising... Absolutely concerned with mold come late flower with the size so far.

Our dehui was defective, have a new one running continuous and can keep rh down to 50-55%

Some grow more calmag arriving today and will get incorporated into the regimen...

Good vibes all

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You’re killing it LD keep it up and keep the air moving and the mold will be someone else’s problem! I have kept my humidity pegged the last 3 grows at 70-73% basically 10ish under my temp until the last 3 weeks and the 7 muffin fans “four sixteen inch from above and three 10 inch from below” and so far have been very blessed or lucky and have not had an issue. The frost reward at the end is worth the nail biting weeks 4-7. I do not lower my Rh to the low 60’s until the last week. Right wrong or indifferent I started running like this because of 2 three letter acronym boys on here. DHF and DJM.

Peace out,

LJ
 

LouDog420

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Thanks guys.

Starting to see some possible differences in lighting... We have an OG Chem cut under each light. Some were slightly healthier than others going in, sit in different locations under each light, different airflow, etc. so take impressions with a grain of salt. But, same cut, same room, same feed (slight variations for emitter/pressure differences)...

Impressions so far. Take it or leave it, who knows maybe those stretchy gals will fill in with fat baseball bats. 32 days

Growers Choice ($750 ~2 years ago) - Never really liked how plants stacked, and have been running this light for almost two years. They seem to get skinny at the top, and some decent stretch. I'd throw this OGC in the bottom 2 in terms of structure I'd like to see at this point.
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Total Grow ($650) - The most stretch out of all lights. Also only a 6 bar running less watts. Makes sense, but less desirable structure all things as presented. Had to tie down two OGC tops because they just kept reaching
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Grow Light Science ($775) - Dimmed down a click still, and stacks tight. Pulling up to 850w at max; I'm liking this one leaving room for growth when really dialing in a room, leaving lights stationary without sacrificing too much in intensity early in pre-flower/flower, or finding a lady that just likes to sunbathe.
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Spectrum King ($710) - gotta say some nice stacking so far. One of the top two with the GLS. There's an OGC under both the SK and the GC, and that plant seems to be a bit tighter than the OGC under the GC only... Maybe...
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Pics don't seem to capture it all that well, but we tried ;)
 
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LJ farming

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Thanks guys.

Starting to see some possible differences in lighting... We have an OG Chem cut under each light. Some were slightly healthier than others going in, sit in different locations under each light, different airflow, etc. so take impressions with a grain of salt. But, same cut, same room, same feed (slight variations for emitter/pressure differences)...

Impressions so far. Take it or leave it, who knows maybe those stretchy gals will fill in with fat baseball bats. 32 days

Growers Choice ($750 ~2 years ago) - Never really liked how plants stacked, and have been running this light for almost two years. They seem to get skinny at the top, and some decent stretch. I'd throw this OGC in the bottom 2 in terms of structure I'd like to see at this point.
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Total Grow ($650) - The most stretch out of all lights. Also only a 6 bar running less watts. Makes sense, but less desirable structure all things as presented. Had to tie down two OGC tops because they just kept reaching
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Grow Light Science ($775) - Dimmed down a click still, and stacks tight. Pulling up to 850w at max; I'm liking this one leaving room for growth when really dialing in a room, leaving lights stationary without sacrificing too much in intensity early in pre-flower/flower, or finding a lady that just likes to sunbathe.
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Spectrum King ($710) - gotta say some nice stacking so far. One of the top two with the GLS. There's an OGC under both the SK and the GC, and that plant seems to be a bit tighter than the OGC under the GC only... Maybe...
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Pics don't seem to capture it all that well, but we tried ;)
Looking amazing LD
 

LouDog420

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Day 36... A few plants on the far side of the table showing some issues. I think they're eating more than everything else and just need more fertigation. Still stacking great. I'll take 39 out of 42 healthy plants with minimal handling... Always room for improvement...

Growmore calmag is in, so adding that in place of botanicare calmag and starting to slowly drop calnit over the next few weeks. Still going to hit them with a handwater of gypsum to keep the Ca up, and will probably throw in a last root bene tea to ride out the rest of flower at the same time.

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And my bubblehead 9 cut from Tony Green/Karma collab... A killer plant...
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dramamine

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Looks great in there, LD. Chunky is the word.

Your Bubblehead cut is definitely a bit frostier than mine. Same structure though. What's the nose on her like? Mine smells like sour type Headbanger with a sort of marshmallow-ey sweetness. I need to sort through some more of those seeds.
 

LJ farming

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You’re killing it LD seriously! I wanna be like you when I grow up. Lol.

I’m adding $79 electric hoist light lifters on 1 side of my room tonight hoping that making it easier to adjust the light height will make/allow me to dial in my LEDs down to get the most possible out of them.

Peace out,

LJ
 

LouDog420

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Looks great in there, LD. Chunky is the word.

Your Bubblehead cut is definitely a bit frostier than mine. Same structure though. What's the nose on her like? Mine smells like sour type Headbanger with a sort of marshmallow-ey sweetness. I need to sort through some more of those seeds.

I ran a fat pack of 19 to find this girl. Tons of great stuff, but this one really stands out. Some OG/hashy funk, nice density, and a frost bucket. I'm bad with smells, but I'd say leaning glue/OG, without much sour. There were some heavy gassy girls in the bunch, more airy/loose structure, but most preferred this #9. She was one of the best growers as well, so works out great. Somewhere between the dense golf balls and the looser sour spears.

Great stuff to find in there
 
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