Looking for that PINE!

[Shmavis]

Looking great @EastCoastGambit
That’s encouraging that pine is coming through on the Romulans, even if not as pronounced as hoped for.

A later start than intended with the PTK, but we’re off - 10 down, 10 up.

Ordered some seeds that also sound promising for pine terps - and that wasn't even what I was looking for from them. Legal to grow here since 2018, so I have had plants outdoors each year since; this year being the exception. And last year I only put one S1 of S.A.G.E. out. Haven’t had much luck keeping the girls free of PM and or botrytis. Being aware of Friesland’s legendary status for doing great outdoors I set about looking for some seeds. Pretty excited to read the following: “…Buds are large and quite dense, with a strong dominant aroma of pine.” So I have Friesland Indica (M33) seeds en route. Plan is to pop some of them indoors in hopes of finding a winner (heavy pine nose) to put outdoors next spring to see if I have better luck. If I get lucky with PTK I will try it outdoors as well.

Happy hunting!

 

[EastCoastGambit]

The fun is in the hunt.

 

[joemeetmary]

Not sure if you found what you were looking for in the Romulan or Skywalker.

Another good strain to hunt might be Old Soul from Bodhi. I think it's Pinesoul x Old Mother Ghani. A buddy of mine grew it out and it was mega piney. Too piney for my liking, but sounds like it could be another that would fit your bill.

 

[Icemud]

Looking great @EastCoastGambit
That’s encouraging that pine is coming through on the Romulans, even if not as pronounced as hoped for.

A later start than intended with the PTK, but we’re off - 10 down, 10 up.

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Ordered some seeds that also sound promising for pine terps - and that wasn't even what I was looking for from them. Legal to grow here since 2018, so I have had plants outdoors each year since; this year being the exception. And last year I only put one S1 of S.A.G.E. out. Haven’t had much luck keeping the girls free of PM and or botrytis. Being aware of Friesland’s legendary status for doing great outdoors I set about looking for some seeds. Pretty excited to read the following: “…Buds are large and quite dense, with a strong dominant aroma of pine.” So I have Friesland Indica (M33) seeds en route. Plan is to pop some of them indoors in hopes of finding a winner (heavy pine nose) to put outdoors next spring to see if I have better luck. If I get lucky with PTK I will try it outdoors as well.

Happy hunting!

I'm interested in seeing how the PTK turns out... I picked up a few packs from CSI but haven't popped them yet. Do you have a journal here I could subscribe to?

 

[Shmavis]

I'm interested in seeing how the PTK turns out... I picked up a few packs from CSI but haven't popped them yet. Do you have a journal here I could subscribe to?

A few packs - wow, that's 60+ seeds to hunt through - nice.

ECG has given his blessing to share here in his thread. I doubt I will update before they're sexed but you never know, something worthy might happen along the way. Yesterday I potted them up into SOLO cups. As of now all 10 look as though they'll make it.

 

[Hammerhead]

My flower room is not running great during summer. It's hot and dry in there. I don't use AC. I just finished the Summer flower room cleaning everything time. I left some plants in while I was getting busy.

Cbanana s1 x THH x A5hazebx x Mac.. Cat Piss pine pheno.. I will be using my THH X p41 male on a few new projects.

Her sib, not as good. Slight pine no gas.

 

[browntrout]

Got some ‘79 XMAS bud as freebies from CSI. Germed the whole pack and will be split up for outdoor breeding this year. Anyone have experience with her?

 

[EastCoastGambit]

So I just trimmed up from this 1st harvest. Some of my buds were blown open fluffy (too much heat?) and potentially grew too close to the lights I guess. I think they could have gone another week or so as some of the calyxes didn't look very swollen. Guess I have more dialing in to do on my setup.

Either way I'm happy - I've tested both strains and like the effects. Relaxing, some head high, not as couch lock as I was worried. Seems to be good for settling into the evening, after dinner kind of thing, leading to a good night's rest. Got a nice pile of heads from trimming on my hash screens.

Next up will be a seed run as I want to try breeding for the 1st time. Crossing the Romulan x Skywalker OG. If I can get a second tent set up (unlikely) then I will try a run of the XMas Bud though since others are running both PTK and XMas bud I may just wait to see what they report.

Moving forward I will just journal my grows and link them here.

The hunt continues...

The other concern is perhaps my taste buds have changed since my 20's. Bud that smells piney may not necessarily taste that way. Even with diesels (though the real Sour D is elusive) sometimes I don't notice them until I leave the room and walk back in. I don't taste it when smoking it but when I come back into the room I can smell it pretty strongly.

If the terps are loud enough I'd imagine they would still be overwhelming.

 

[clearheaded]

ahh terpinolene is not pine flavor... apple lilac not pine. pinene is. who told u this? terpinolene is also found in more NARROW LEAF var. and associated with clearer affects of jack etc. while pine flavors come from more wideleaf var. so could not be further from the truth also no terpinolene is not selected against. PINENE def is as is VERY HARSH. yes there is other terps that add to teh full pine flavor and included in rosemary type flavors.

anyhoo just replying to earlier in the thread. hopefully was cleared up.

 

[Hopefull Stoner]

aloha dude,
my 1.5 cents = don't use a bunch of shit = supplements in new genetics you aren't familiar with and please don't use pinesol holy shit smdh.
some spoke on hazes with Pine terps... I HAVE 5 BEANS left of the old Pine Queen from sonic seeds. based on the skinny many will be happy if i do a repro of it. but might just go the F1 route in cross. not sure at all.

also have the NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness. i kept the 10 wk pheno seeds and gifted the 13/14 week seeds already to a comrade. hope to see if his steve tuck tech for old seeds worked.

yeah, as u know smell doesn't translate to flavor that often so keep that in mind when chucking and testing.

if you have duplicate clone males of the same strain. flower out a male and freeze that pollen. then after u do your experiments you will have backup if needed. in the mean time take two cuts off the 1 left to have your second cut back in action.
I ALWAYS want 2 cuts for prevent defense on anything i keep and they should be in different place to be safe too.

? where did u get your M33 friesland from or did u actually order "freezland" by mistake which is a friesland cross.
i haven't seen pure FRIESLAND except 1 vendor.
i have AK BEANB BRAINS :Freezeland IBL Friesland Indica x Pluton BX2, i had ordered original PLuton 2 back in the day but eventually lost those $55approx. seeds. nothing else i have seen has the PLUTON 2 pure. thx.

GOOD GENETICS JUST NEED WHAT THEY WANT AND NO EXTRA NEEDED TO BE WORTHY IMHO

 

[Hammerhead]

Terpinolene doesn't smell of pine. It's a woody citrus aroma.

Terpinolene: a terpene dominant in about one in ten cannabis strains, is recognized for its woody smell combined with floral citrus notes. Is not common.

Pinene: one of the most researched and documented terpenes found in cannabis, is available in two varieties: Alpha-pinene (sometimes denoted as α-pinene) and beta-pinene (β-pinene). The alpha type carries a scent of pine needles and rosemary; beta-pinene conveys an aroma of basil, dill, hops, and parsley. The alpha variety is significantly more common in cannabis. Pinene is the most common terpene in the plant world. Strains rich in pinene span the sativa-indica gene pool.
I've found a lot of Pinene in my Haze hybrids.. If you are smelling pine it is alpha Pinene. Keep in mind we all don't interpret smells/flavors the same.

 

[clearheaded]

thanks HH, really didnt get why multiple people were saying its not pinene but terpinolene that gives smell on pine, curious where that came from.

 

[EastCoastGambit]

aloha dude,
my 1.5 cents = don't use a bunch of shit = supplements in new genetics you aren't familiar with and please don't use pinesol holy shit smdh.
some spoke on hazes with Pine terps... I HAVE 5 BEANS left of the old Pine Queen from sonic seeds. based on the skinny many will be happy if i do a repro of it. but might just go the F1 route in cross. not sure at all.

also have the NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness. i kept the 10 wk pheno seeds and gifted the 13/14 week seeds already to a comrade. hope to see if his steve tuck tech for old seeds worked.

yeah, as u know smell doesn't translate to flavor that often so keep that in mind when chucking and testing.

if you have duplicate clone males of the same strain. flower out a male and freeze that pollen. then after u do your experiments you will have backup if needed. in the mean time take two cuts off the 1 left to have your second cut back in action.
I ALWAYS want 2 cuts for prevent defense on anything i keep and they should be in different place to be safe too.

? where did u get your M33 friesland from or did u actually order "freezland" by mistake which is a friesland cross.
i haven't seen pure FRIESLAND except 1 vendor.
i have AK BEANB BRAINS :Freezeland IBL Friesland Indica x Pluton BX2, i had ordered original PLuton 2 back in the day but eventually lost those $55approx. seeds. nothing else i have seen has the PLUTON 2 pure. thx.

GOOD GENETICS JUST NEED WHAT THEY WANT AND NO EXTRA NEEDED TO BE WORTHY IMHO

Aloha,

The pinesol thing was a joke so hopefully no one really tries that. I barely use any of those supplements mostly 1/3 strength a few weeks in flower. Soil has most of what the plant needs.

If you end up working that Pine Queen let us know.

Peace

 

[Shmavis]

aloha dude,
my 1.5 cents = don't use a bunch of shit = supplements in new genetics you aren't familiar with and please don't use pinesol holy shit smdh.
some spoke on hazes with Pine terps... I HAVE 5 BEANS left of the old Pine Queen from sonic seeds. based on the skinny many will be happy if i do a repro of it. but might just go the F1 route in cross. not sure at all.

also have the NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness. i kept the 10 wk pheno seeds and gifted the 13/14 week seeds already to a comrade. hope to see if his steve tuck tech for old seeds worked.

yeah, as u know smell doesn't translate to flavor that often so keep that in mind when chucking and testing.

if you have duplicate clone males of the same strain. flower out a male and freeze that pollen. then after u do your experiments you will have backup if needed. in the mean time take two cuts off the 1 left to have your second cut back in action.
I ALWAYS want 2 cuts for prevent defense on anything i keep and they should be in different place to be safe too.

? where did u get your M33 friesland from or did u actually order "freezland" by mistake which is a friesland cross.
i haven't seen pure FRIESLAND except 1 vendor.
i have AK BEANB BRAINS :Freezeland IBL Friesland Indica x Pluton BX2, i had ordered original PLuton 2 back in the day but eventually lost those $55approx. seeds. nothing else i have seen has the PLUTON 2 pure. thx.

GOOD GENETICS JUST NEED WHAT THEY WANT AND NO EXTRA NEEDED TO BE WORTHY IMHO

Pretty sure I did not make a mistake. And rather confident the source is legit. The offering even says: “Yes, this is the pure Friesland (M33) and has not been hybridized.” So possibly I ordered from the one vendor you know of.

I always appreciate finding an extra seed or two in packs I’ve ordered - it’s a nice bonus. But 5?!? That’s awesome. Got extra seeds in every pack I ordered and even the freebies came with extras. This was the second order I have placed with Kwik Seeds and most assuredly not the last.

 

[browntrout]

Had the pleasure of growing Smoke-A-Lot seeds Freezeland (((Friesland Indica x Pluton)x Friesland Indica) x Friesland Indica) F?? (I believe) years ago, and then again after further inbreeding from Bush Brothers. I preferred the earlier released version by a fair margin. The seeds would grow multiple plants from one seed, never seen that before, usually two sometimes 3. Odd to see a seed with 3 tap roots lol.

These plants had great phenotypical variation, all extremely pungent, early and very stoney. There were stinky overripe berry/fruit phenos, astringent gas phenos and definitely pine in amongst them especially the gassy ones, I'm sure there are some very Pine leaning individuals in those early lines. Would grow this specific generation/line a lot if i could. They were also very resinous and sticky with a little less trich coverage then normal.

 

[browntrout]

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[ZeBLaBon]

Im on a Pine quest too, and many breeders and growers point me to so different sources. I start make a list. But i have struggle to get seeds cause il in carribean sea, and often they dont send seeds to me from usa..

 

[ZeBLaBon]

Im on a Pine quest too, and many breeders and growers point me to so different sources. I start make a list. But i have struggle to get seeds cause il in carribean sea, and often they dont send seeds to me from usa..

 

[Shmavis]

True to form PTK is vegging s l o w l y. Today is roughly five weeks from seed. For the most part they’re coming along nicely though. Have two runts that are of interest if for no reason other than one is considerably darker than the other (the difference isn’t as noticeable in the pic). Not a single one has any significant lateral branching to speak of - will be some time yet before I am able to take cuts. Most likely next weekend they will get up-potted into 1g containers, which is generally when I would take cuts, but clearly not with these. I will turn up the light at transplant and maybe that along with extra room to stretch their legs will help them pick up steam.

Happy Sunday!

 

[EastCoastGambit]

I changed my plans up a bit. Just planted some seeds of the 79' xmas bud and will grow them out with my Skywalker OG clone. Going to flower the clones of the romulan male in another area and freeze the pollen to pollinate the Skywalker with. This way I get a look at the Xmas Bud without needing to wait. Besides that the male clones were quite more delveoped than my Skywalker clone so the timing was going to be funky to do a seed run with them all in the same tent.