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Wolverine97

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I think this is interesting 🤔
The first thing that comes to mind in identifying fungi is a plate wall poster for comparison at least a book with slide sample for picture comparison.

The L. B. Is a relatively safe specimen to experiment with it does produce peroxide which keep the soil and plants free of things like Powdery Mildew.

It's also easy to obtain for culture by making your own from scratch or Greek yogurt, scomby, kaffir multiple sources right?

Along the same lines may be beneficial organisms so you have a healthy aerobic environment going and the bacterial also then certain beneficial fungi and multicellular organisms of course it must always be kept moist warm and aerated.

Then there is feeding the cultures and trying to keep it all in balance in a small contained area.

That said the end results of your plants health can be fantastic !

I have found that a organic, organic mineral hybrid system is far superior than one or the other.

Promix bx and Epsoma tomato tone
contain some things of interest.

Great thread thanks for sharing 👍

Best >>> :huggg:
I have the same approach these days. I've ran across too many strains that do best with synthetics, while others do better with organics (seemingly, anyhow). So I started combining the approaches of both. I'm mostly organic, in a semi living soil (hard to have a true living soil indoors), but I do supplement with synthetics 2-3x throughout the grow. That seems to give me the best all around results.
 

Wolverine97

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Hey!
Love this subject, so I was really happy to see it! My approach is that wormcastings in itself contains both tons of beneficial fungi and bacteria. Plus its super easy to care for wormcompost.
So I never saw the need for giving myself a lot of extra work, when the worms do it for me!
Im growing in a 450 litre bed, 3 19 litre fabricpots and outdoor in no-dig beds.
When i established my bed I was inspired by hügelbeds. I made a bottom of rocks and big twigs , then build up with heatcompost (horsemanure and willow), wormcompost, soil from the forrest, mixed in browns and greens (plantmatter from my garden) and then a soilcover of woodchips or something like that. Then I feed them composttea and compostextract once a week or something like that (depends on how lazy I am you know ;))
Just my way of doing it! Looking forward to following this thread!
Happy growing !
Similar to how I handle it. But I like to use both good quality castings, and good quality compost. I think between those two things, a small amount (5%) native soil, and weekly application of Recharge or similar, I think there's plenty of life in there. My plants seem to agree.

I'm way too paranoid to be growing fungus, when I don't have a firm grasp of the range of fungi and potential ill effects. Plus, it's really easy for that stuff to inoculate the wood in your home, or paper on drywall, etc... I have no desire to go through mold remediation in my home, so I am pretty careful about what I introduce indoors.
 

Persianfarmer

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Similar to how I handle it. But I like to use both good quality castings, and good quality compost. I think between those two things, a small amount (5%) native soil, and weekly application of Recharge or similar, I think there's plenty of life in there. My plants seem to agree.

I'm way too paranoid to be growing fungus, when I don't have a firm grasp of the range of fungi and potential ill effects. Plus, it's really easy for that stuff to inoculate the wood in your home, or paper on drywall, etc... I have no desire to go through mold remediation in my home, so I am pretty careful about what I introduce indoors.

Hiya wolverine!

Thanks for joining the fun and for sharing… please do not stop and continue should you have the time.👍🏻🙏🏻
 

Persianfarmer

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Im a 33yr stoner without a full time job and no education past highschool who lives in the jungle haha and do my own research for years, I've never fit into the system I'm more of lone wolf, I appreciate the compliment. I plan on writing a book of my ideas and finding when it comes to planta ect soils I studied landraces for years which helped me learn a lot. So I was thinking micronutrients in soil represent most regulators for example cal/mg and zinc. Calcium is structure magnesium is energy and zinc is regulator. I think that's right at least. I try to live humble to this point I've put more into internal growth than external.

Impressive! Well if no one has told you, you are an amazing autodidact . Hope to have the chance and honor to read your book one day, and please write it as it will be a waste of knowldege!
Great what are your favorite landraces and why?
Also since you brought up the Calmag and zinc, mind expanding a bit? Also what about Boron?
If i am not mistaking, calmag should be given all the way (till flush if one flushes), but what about zinc or even boron?
Just acted impulsively when reading you so sorry if i sway around
 

Persianfarmer

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Im a 33yr stoner without a full time job and no education past highschool who lives in the jungle haha and do my own research for years, I've never fit into the system I'm more of lone wolf, I appreciate the compliment. I plan on writing a book of my ideas and finding when it comes to planta ect soils I studied landraces for years which helped me learn a lot. So I was thinking micronutrients in soil represent most regulators for example cal/mg and zinc. Calcium is structure magnesium is energy and zinc is regulator. I think that's right at least. I try to live humble to this point I've put more into internal growth than external.

Is that a mind map i am seeing… will it end up in a tree… love schematics… a pic for a thousand words 🫶🏻😉
 

Persianfarmer

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Virus use bacteria to replicate they are addition and multiplication. I think atleast my computers broke and can't use ai to double check atm pa that's just a basic list in photo it's unlimited and the answers and limitlessness as well the answers due to relationship's but each section represents a layer of a layer ect I've gotten to the point honesty I feel like einstein of plants.i understand them at a deeper layer and can answer most questions at this point. Even how wind effects terpebe profile and effect and rain ect why plants do what why low auxin favor high anthrocyanins, I rewrote the wrong photoperiod model gruped terpenes base on roles and relations even acyclic mono and bicyclci and finding their exaxt roles. I am lonely in my views as they are my own and most people I explain don't take me serious or don't understand.

Bro!!! Well you find us or you found me! Love that you are so passionate and would love to hear more! You are super interesting. Since you mentioned auxins, i get mine by sprouting lentils and then making a tea. I mostly give it to seedlings for growth hormone and root stimulator, is that correct or should i feed it to veg and flowering plants as well? How often?
 

Verdant Whisperer

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Impressive! Well if no one has told you, you are an amazing autodidact . Hope to have the chance and honor to read your book one day, and please write it as it will be a waste of knowldege!
Great what are your favorite landraces and why?
Also since you brought up the Calmag and zinc, mind expanding a bit? Also what about Boron?
If i am not mistaking, calmag should be given all the way (till flush if one flushes), but what about zinc or even boron?
Just acted impulsively when reading you so sorry if i sway around
My favorite landraces are the ones that are built for my environment,one from volcanic soils with lower pH and similar mineral composition to my own. Similar season length and similar latitude. I prefer landraces grown by uneducated growers who use instinct not knowledge. My collection at the moments focus is chaipas Mexican jungle landraces, NW Angola landraces, Hmong ganja laos, Ruthshuru Congolese, and Tanaosri from thailand and I have 2 hybrid lines I'm workings. If I could have two more it would be nilgiri hills India and Mt.Elron, uganda. I don't like worked lines because they become more anti herbivore all domesticated crops are higher myrcene than their natural counterparts.
 

Verdant Whisperer

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Bro!!! Well you find us or you found me! Love that you are so passionatethd would love to hear more! You are super interesting. Since you mentioned auxins, i get mine by sprouting lentils and then making a tea. I mostly give it to seedlings for growth hormone and root stimulator, is that correct or should i feed it to veg and flowering plants as well? How often?
Auxin=Veg=Nitrogen
Think of auxins as HGH when we are older we stop growing levels decrease not sure about boron questions when pcs fixed. I'll answer. Thank you for your interest.
 

Persianfarmer

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My favorite landraces are the ones that are built for my environment,one from volcanic soils with lower pH and similar mineral composition to my own. Similar season length and similar latitude. I prefer landraces grown by uneducated growers who use instinct not knowledge. My collection at the moments focus is chaipas Mexican jungle landraces, NW Angola landraces, Hmong ganja laos, Ruthshuru Congolese, and Tanaosri from thailand and I have 2 hybrid lines I'm workings. If I could have two more it would be nilgiri hills India and Mt.Elron, uganda

Waaaaa man you know your landraces that is for sure!!!! Chiapas so the Oaxaca region!!! Love Oaxaca ganja!!! I see you have a wonderful collection, African and S. Asian landraces are fyah!!!. What about the red varieties such as Panama? Or Vietnamese?
I am not promising but I will add to your collection once I find my Persian landraces!!!
 

Verdant Whisperer

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Waaaaa man you know your landraces that is for sure!!!! Chiapas so the Oaxaca region!!! Love Oaxaca ganja!!! I see you have a wonderful collection, African and S. Asian landraces are fyah!!!. What about the red varieties such as Panama? Or Vietnamese?
I am not promising but I will add to your collection once I find my Persian landraces!!!
I'm breeding a red variety atm my carangola f2s it's Columbian krippy Or Nicole kush x Chiapas then crossed with Angola. I selected the high anthocyanin phenotypes and the most vigoirs 1 green for f2s and 2 red males 1 early late. I'm using only lower pollen I topped males so pollen is more anthrocyanins dominant. You can breed any line for anthrocyanin easy and quickly once you understand the mechanisms the plant uaes to favor their creation io started with 90+ ended up with 6 female and 2 males. Because of my unique environment their high sone of them in germacrene b they smell like clean dentist gloves rubbery some and clear your mind and spirit. As well if you use overly rich seedling mix it'll slow growth and you can see mild k deficiency in seedlings and see anthrocyanins early before they establish. Its a way to search easy through a lot of seedlings.columbiab krippy is indica hybrid sesquiterpebe dominant special. I found 100% male from fem seed. Its clone grown
 
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Persianfarmer

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I'm breeding a red variety atm my carangola f2s it's Columbian krippy Or Nicole kush x Chiapas then crossed with Angola. I selected the high anthocyanin phenotypes and the most vigoirs 1 green for f2s and 2 red males 1 early late. I'm using only lower pollen I topped males so pollen is more anthrocyanins dominant. You can breed any line for anthrocyanin easy and quickly once you understand the mechanisms the plant uaes to favor their creation io started with 90+ ended up with 6 female and 2 males. Because of my unique environment their high sone of them in germacrene b they smell like clean dentist gloves rubbery some and clear your mind and spirit. As well if you use overly rich seedling mix it'll slow growth and you can see mild k deficiency in seedlings and see anthrocyanins early before they establish. Its a way to search easy through a lot of seedlings.columbiab krippy is indica hybrid sesquiterpebe dominant special. I found 100% male from fem seed. Its clone grown

Amazing!!!! So you throw all these new subjects that are so interesting and need attention and their own threads lol.

See you will make me talk buddy and alot and it is your fault coz u throw things at me, and well me come back at ya 😂😂🤣

Anthocyanin! So will it be specific as i know they are mostly present in tropical fruits and berries. So by topping a male, early flowering? Tell me more so I can try on my cross i made (kept an early flowering male). Also if a plant has red and purple anthocyanin will there be a genetic brassage and the one that is dominant will come out. I think recessivity and dominance play a huge role in this no?
 

Verdant Whisperer

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By learning the system and the code we can manipulate/hack it without corrupting it by understanding mechanics. Without understanding the mechanisms at play completely leads to us corrupting data like a parasite not having being a kind ruler that uses its own mechanisms to manipulate not forcing others.
 

Verdant Whisperer

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Amazing!!!! So you throw all these new subjects that are so interesting and need attention and their own threads lol.

See you will make me talk buddy and alot and it is your fault coz u throw things at me, and well me come back at ya 😂😂🤣

Anthocyanin! So will it be specific as i know they are mostly present in tropical fruits and berries. So by topping a male, early flowering? Tell me more so I can try on my cross i made (kept an early flowering male). Also if a plant has red and purple anthocyanin will there be a genetic brassage and the one that is dominant will come out. I think recessivity and dominance play a huge role in this no?
Anthrocyanins favor insect defense where carotenoids favor herbivores, defense good call that's why their more tropical. Insects have a faster metabolism than mamamals herbivores and prefer faster growing carotenoids dominant plants. Anthrocyanin slow growing low auxin plants are healthier for our metabolism where carotenoids support more insects metabolism. Mammals evolved in temperate where insects evolved in equator. Insects represent more bacterial intelligent and herbivores more fungal, insect terpenes effect the energy systems and mammal more effect on body. Cb1 Cb2 receptors.the pollen location and pistols determines offsprings outcome it's not randon combined with parents traits. I love your interest I don't mind typing in tablet to respond to you it's.a hassle haha going to soon fix pc.
 
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Persianfarmer

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Anthrocyanins favor insect defense where carotenoids favor herbivores, defense good call that's why their more tropical. Insects have a faster metabolism than mamamals herbivores and prefer faster growing carotenoids dominant plants. Anthrocyanin slow growing low auxin plants are healthier for our metabolism where carotenoids support more insects metabolism. Mammals evolved in temperate where insects evolved in equator. Insects represent more bacterial intelligent and herbivores more fungal, insect terpenes effect the energy systems and mammal more effect on body. Cb1 Cb2 receptors.the pollen location and pistols determines offsprings outcome it's not randon combined with parents traits. I love your interest I don't mind typing in tablet to respond to you it's.a hassle haha going to soon fix pc.

I knew you were a Mad scientist!!! I need to read this several times and digest and then I might have a chance to even reply🤣👍🏻❤️
 

Persianfarmer

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I will start here as you have so kindly presented the links. My friend please do not stop am riding with you!!! Passing the torch to you… and just listen and learn. You take over if you do not mind. Luv u bro
 
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