bigbadbiddy
Well-known member
My old grows are in here somewhere.
But in between veeeery successful grows (some of the best stuff me and anyone who was able to partake have ever smoked) I ran into all kinds of issues, particularly from tryna source all these fucking natural ingredients.
I shit y'all not, a friend of mine with US connections once tried to ship me that good good azomite (which I eventually got through a shipping company in Hamburg but that ship also sank in the meantime so to speak) along with that unsaucable stuff in EU:
- Crabmeal (I still believe thats the best all in one combo item for best soil you can get, if you can get it. It apparently must be "agricultural grade" or sth. I have tested Krill (same shit just smaller, no?) and shrimp (kinda same?) meal from fish bait shops. Shit's not the same.
- Some of that good Kelp in large quantities for a not so insane price. Not that pharma or dietary supplement or cosmetic or whatever crap for insane prices. And no, not the CalMag Wombo Combo "KelpCalc" crap either. Although that could work. But like hoof and horn meal instead of bone meal, again, it just aint the same.
Don't remember if there was some more. Either way, that almost got him on a terrorist watchlist, cause the thought, due to the quantities, that he wanted to build fertilizer bombs or some shit.
The more you learn...
Another good example was when I tried buckwheat hulls as an organic aerator that degrades over time into more organic soil. Perfect amendment in place of the "not so organic" perlite (almost)everyone just uses in the end. Because while ultimately organic soil should not require aeration amendments, they sure as shit help to get started out.
Anyway, buckwheat hulls:
I'm in EU remember, so I tried to find goddamn buckwheat hulls, by the kilo.
Long story short, I end up buying from some yoga shop that sells it for their natural, organic or whatever yoga pillows.
1st grow went great, by the second grow I started to have all kinds of issues and no fucking clue where they are coming from. It could be so many things...
Turns out the fucking buckwheat hulls were washed/coated in some anti-alergenic, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial whatever shit, as they were meant for pillows...
Those of you who can extrapolate from incomplete ...
I only found out after like a year of going insane and only because one of the big organic soil peddlers in the US (forgot his name, well known guy here in the forum, not Subcool tho
) had EXACLY THE SAME SHIT happen to him. And he mentioned it in some interview I stumbled upon lol
The joys of organic farmin in the EU ...
If anyone has a reliable source where you can buy all these exact ingredients from the recipes: Please do make a dedicated thread!
Me, I've been scouring the web for more than a decade and whatever I found been lost in the meantime.
And I mean yeah you can get quite close with many things. bedstone-meal is pretty much as decent as azomite, there are solutions/sources for oyster shell meal, etc. etc. but there are also the things you just can't get or at least not intended for agriculture in our sense.
I believe a combo of fish and blood meal for agriculture is still sold online which should be solve some issues as well. But it ain't cheap.
Overall, I think the cheatcode bat guano is justified as the market currently is in EU unless you live near some fishing village with strong agriculture to boot.
In central EU I believe you might often be best off with local compost, ideally self made and the like unless you wanna get into handling literal animal shit for your plants.
I myself drew the line at the krill and shrimp meal. Or grinding up stuff like bloodmeal pellets. If shit smells worse and is more of a pain to maintain/clean than that, I'm out and looking back at the pros of hydro lol
So anyway, don't beat yaself up and overcomplicate things, its a process and it wont be a total letdown any time either.
For me, when I last stopped, I had moved away from large fabric pots for flower to a large bed, regular pots in veg. That did a lot.
But I could never stop the plants from developing yellow tips/endings at some point after early/mid flower.
Couldve been cal/mag, couldve been N but no amount of worm castings, ACT etc. etc. could fix it.
I believe it was a general nutrient uptake problem, either from the water (I used well water for one of my first and best grows) which wasn't the best but should now be better. And/or probably from other factors like temps, humidity, VPD.
I use CMH and the heat is welcome due to the mostly cold climate and me usually being able to grow in a basement. But I always had issues of too hot from above, too cold from below that sort of thing.
There are many factors that go into it and "dialing them in" can take a while with different issues popping up.
But when enough things go just right... Holy Mary Jane is it worth it. When you end up with that top top shelf stuff from just the right pheno and just the right good run, savor that shit
Don't forget for example to vape some of it. I still prefer doobies but vaping gives you so many notes of flavors and smells, its insane.
Anyway, it all takes time but is worth it.
We'll see what I have learned in my upcoming grow
But in between veeeery successful grows (some of the best stuff me and anyone who was able to partake have ever smoked) I ran into all kinds of issues, particularly from tryna source all these fucking natural ingredients.
I shit y'all not, a friend of mine with US connections once tried to ship me that good good azomite (which I eventually got through a shipping company in Hamburg but that ship also sank in the meantime so to speak) along with that unsaucable stuff in EU:
- Crabmeal (I still believe thats the best all in one combo item for best soil you can get, if you can get it. It apparently must be "agricultural grade" or sth. I have tested Krill (same shit just smaller, no?) and shrimp (kinda same?) meal from fish bait shops. Shit's not the same.
- Some of that good Kelp in large quantities for a not so insane price. Not that pharma or dietary supplement or cosmetic or whatever crap for insane prices. And no, not the CalMag Wombo Combo "KelpCalc" crap either. Although that could work. But like hoof and horn meal instead of bone meal, again, it just aint the same.
Don't remember if there was some more. Either way, that almost got him on a terrorist watchlist, cause the thought, due to the quantities, that he wanted to build fertilizer bombs or some shit.
The more you learn...
Another good example was when I tried buckwheat hulls as an organic aerator that degrades over time into more organic soil. Perfect amendment in place of the "not so organic" perlite (almost)everyone just uses in the end. Because while ultimately organic soil should not require aeration amendments, they sure as shit help to get started out.
Anyway, buckwheat hulls:
I'm in EU remember, so I tried to find goddamn buckwheat hulls, by the kilo.
Long story short, I end up buying from some yoga shop that sells it for their natural, organic or whatever yoga pillows.
1st grow went great, by the second grow I started to have all kinds of issues and no fucking clue where they are coming from. It could be so many things...
Turns out the fucking buckwheat hulls were washed/coated in some anti-alergenic, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial whatever shit, as they were meant for pillows...
Those of you who can extrapolate from incomplete ...
I only found out after like a year of going insane and only because one of the big organic soil peddlers in the US (forgot his name, well known guy here in the forum, not Subcool tho
) had EXACLY THE SAME SHIT happen to him. And he mentioned it in some interview I stumbled upon lolThe joys of organic farmin in the EU ...
If anyone has a reliable source where you can buy all these exact ingredients from the recipes: Please do make a dedicated thread!
Me, I've been scouring the web for more than a decade and whatever I found been lost in the meantime.
And I mean yeah you can get quite close with many things. bedstone-meal is pretty much as decent as azomite, there are solutions/sources for oyster shell meal, etc. etc. but there are also the things you just can't get or at least not intended for agriculture in our sense.
I believe a combo of fish and blood meal for agriculture is still sold online which should be solve some issues as well. But it ain't cheap.
Overall, I think the cheatcode bat guano is justified as the market currently is in EU unless you live near some fishing village with strong agriculture to boot.
In central EU I believe you might often be best off with local compost, ideally self made and the like unless you wanna get into handling literal animal shit for your plants.
I myself drew the line at the krill and shrimp meal. Or grinding up stuff like bloodmeal pellets. If shit smells worse and is more of a pain to maintain/clean than that, I'm out and looking back at the pros of hydro lol
So anyway, don't beat yaself up and overcomplicate things, its a process and it wont be a total letdown any time either.
For me, when I last stopped, I had moved away from large fabric pots for flower to a large bed, regular pots in veg. That did a lot.
But I could never stop the plants from developing yellow tips/endings at some point after early/mid flower.
Couldve been cal/mag, couldve been N but no amount of worm castings, ACT etc. etc. could fix it.
I believe it was a general nutrient uptake problem, either from the water (I used well water for one of my first and best grows) which wasn't the best but should now be better. And/or probably from other factors like temps, humidity, VPD.
I use CMH and the heat is welcome due to the mostly cold climate and me usually being able to grow in a basement. But I always had issues of too hot from above, too cold from below that sort of thing.
There are many factors that go into it and "dialing them in" can take a while with different issues popping up.
But when enough things go just right... Holy Mary Jane is it worth it. When you end up with that top top shelf stuff from just the right pheno and just the right good run, savor that shit
Don't forget for example to vape some of it. I still prefer doobies but vaping gives you so many notes of flavors and smells, its insane.
Anyway, it all takes time but is worth it.
We'll see what I have learned in my upcoming grow
