This thread is just simply amazing. AMAZING. Big respect to all the main players here sharing their knowledge - CC, Gas, Scrap and others - very appreciative of your posts. I just got through the dolomite lime debate, and skipped ahead to some later pages and had some insights/questions.
First, I'm very surprised there's not more of the Growing Large Trees folks in this thread. That thread and this one are probably two of the most informative pieces of education on the net pertaining to horticulture, biology, and damn good weed that I have seen around.
Rootwise had been talking about dandelions, comfrey, and alfalfa, for a couple years now and not too many were listening -- really awesome to see it backed up with some of the impressive indoor garden pics here.
I skipped to the discussion on earthjuice and neptune liquids and wanted to know if any of you have worked with J.H Biotech products? I used them this year for my outdoor and saw some other gardens excel with them as well and wanted to hear some folks opinions. Their line is for the most part all organic and aimed at the more commercial farmer vs the hobby grower so it actually applies really well to big outdoor trees.
Their aquapower, fulmax, humax, and natural wet are 4 that I use a lot, the natural wet has a yuca extract in it and it's cheap but unfortuantely I can only find J.H. products out west or Colorado. I use these products mainly for teas and not as fertilizers. If any MI growers have heard of or seen J.H. products please let me know, trying to source it locally has been impossible.
I'm typing a lot here so I'll try to wrap it up, I wanted to know if that original recipe Cats posted is still the recipe you are working with minus the dolomite or with it for that matter and whether or not there's a mix a little less hot that you can use in a shorter amount of time instead of the 4 week cook off.
In my outs, when the soil is still hot I just dig out a hole in the middle and fill it in with potting soil so the transplant has time to ease into the mix instead of jumping right in the deep end, I think the same idea could apply here? Some peat, compost, castings blend to give it a little dip before the plunge kind of thing?
I have more specific questions but I want to read through the thread before repeating shit that may have already been addressed.
Again, respect the real information being taught here!!!
Your tips in this thread seem to be working out quite nice. Thanks again for all your REAL information.
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Gas, a combination of user error and auto correct on my computer led to Cats vs Gas...and a little afternoon puffy puffy. It's not so much a "line" as it is a tool for building robust teas in my opinion. I was just curious if any of you have used it......
And I've worked with soils before, but mainly as an outdoor organic grow which has a different amendment process I feel vs creating a generator of soil for indoors. Same animal, maybe just two different ways to tame it kind of thing....
I'll wander on over to MileHighGuy's grow and take a look, thanks for reference.
on the purealoe powder - if I'm mixing 1g of powder with 4 gallons of h20, is this roughly the same as applying roughly 1 cup of LOTD liquid aloe per 4 gallons? just making sure I am getting the proper dilution..
also invocation those plants are looking phenomenal...good work!
somoz
The J.H Biotech products are sold at almost all of the larger farm supply warehouses here. You don't find them so much at the smaller ones that are really the ones most often used. The larger ones are set-up pretty much like Costco - large aisles and warehouse racks and you push your cart up and down the aisles for your fertilizers, fungicides, pesticides and herbicides. These warehouses do not carry products which don't move off the racks - there's just too much competition so the fact that they're widely available means that they sell in enough quantities to warrant stocking them.
The lack of retail pack sizes makes it hard for most people to try them out. I have looked at some of their fungicide products and they use a variety of oils - cottonseed, corn, mineral, canola, et al. which may have more of an outdoor/agricultural application than indoor or even an outdoor home garden.
Which products have you used?
CC