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ColorGRo

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....you'll have to,and what if I get hit with a meteor or something....or join a cult and drink the special Kool-Aid.....just goes to show ya' don't ever know...until the chickens are in your hands.

Unfortunately, yes, I have to wait. But I can drool while i wait....
Haha wife and i was just talking about getting hit by a meteor.
STAY AWAY FROM THE KOOL-AID.... :)
 

ClackamasCootz

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I've been on a music buying spree this past week. I downloaded most of Pink Floyd, some more Ravi Shankar albums, some Tibetan music, Lucky Dube and finished up my Ijahman Levi collection.

Oh and the Soggy Bottom Boys - really kewl music. In the Jailhouse Now
 

Gascanastan

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I've been on a music buying spree this past week. I downloaded most of Pink Floyd, some more Ravi Shankar albums, some Tibetan music, Lucky Dube and finished up my Ijahman Levi collection.

Oh and the Soggy Bottom Boys - really kewl music. In the Jailhouse Now

Awesome......the live side of Umma Gumma and the Meddle album are my faves from Floyd.
Go cat go~
 

Cann

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been reading this thread all day...still nowhere near caught up. figured i'd post something anyway cause in the 200+ pages I read there has been no mention of this.

do any of you guys eat the leaves from your garden? you must have tons of fan leaves after you defoliate to increase yields...:biggrin:

anyway, I came across this a while ago and ever since I have been juicing leaves whenever I have them, or making mj salads, etc. Figured y'all have probably already heard of this but here ya go

The power of RAW cannabis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEP9FdIzT8
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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I love chewing on fresh buds. I had some last season outdoors that actually tasted like a bar of soap! YUCK! Give me the spicy and tangy stuff not the soapbar any day... :smoke:

Went to see some Mongolian throat singing last night, Horse and Wood. Blending traditional Arabic and Mongolian strings with this guys unreal harmonics coming out of his throat. Amazing!
 

W89

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Hi Cann mate hows it going? Hope ya OK buddy! I've eaten leaves befo just to taste them after flushing when I was growing chem nutes to see if they tasted rank I was always told that how to tell if you have flushed the nutes out of them
 
I've been on a music buying spree this past week. I downloaded most of Pink Floyd, some more Ravi Shankar albums, some Tibetan music, Lucky Dube and finished up my Ijahman Levi collection.

Oh and the Soggy Bottom Boys - really kewl music. In the Jailhouse Now

my plants love Floyd, they really dig Live at Pompeii, the 1972 concert. every night they jam to Careful With That Axe Eugene... not knowing i'm gonna cut them up one day, ironic isn't it....
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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Love the Floyd too!

I have their Pulse dvd with one disc being the whole of Darkside of the Moon played live. EPIC!
 

LITHOS

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I love chewing on fresh buds. I had some last season outdoors that actually tasted like a bar of soap! YUCK! Give me the spicy and tangy stuff not the soapbar any day... :smoke:

Went to see some Mongolian throat singing last night, Horse and Wood. Blending traditional Arabic and Mongolian strings with this guys unreal harmonics coming out of his throat. Amazing!


I used to know a guy who loved to chew.He was a long time tobacco chewer who would'nt smoke with us but this ol' boy loved to pack his cheek with buds,seeds and all (this was back in the days of Columbian redbud,it did look good enough to eat!)I tried it once but had to spit it out after a minute-fucking nasty.But then I felt the same way the one time I tried a chaw of tobacco.Just a wuss I guess.Sure wish I had some of those seeds now!
 

Microbeman

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Microbeman,
you obviously know more about this topic, seeing as i just googled the above term....
but for epigenetic damage to occur, would this not take place during the breeding of the plants? is it not the sperm of the pollen that will silence gene expression by means of methylation? would this indicate that cloning a plant in the absence of the opposite sex would eliminate the potential to contaminate the genetics? below is the link that i read....it's over my head...
DDG

http://www.cshl.edu/Article-Martien...which-plants-inherit-epigenetic-modifications

There is a not bad discussion in the Cannabis Botany forum - I https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=197586

I posted some links there I think;

Also; http://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/ir/bitstream/1840.16/1773/1/etd.pdf

http://www.plantcell.org/content/18/2/350.full.pdf+html

Basically it is apparent that a plant's traits can be inherited via progression of clones (rooted cuttings). This can result in negative traits caused by environmental damage; oxidization, light damage, chemical inducements, etc OR positive traits by which a plant can be improved through successive cloning.

Anecdotally, I have witnessed the negative aspects of this.

This does not mean this WILL occur, it just means it can.

Hey also check out this;

http://www.slideshare.net/adeladul/plant-propagation-by-tissue-culture-vol1-the-background
 

Neo 420

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I definitely believe some salt/chemical based nutes and the assort can progressively and quickly degenerate a plants line. I've seen guys who done it in a years time. Totally destroy'd it.
 

Weyenot

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I would go to hell and clean out of Satan's bong to get a male BO or TO in seed......unfortunately there are NONE available because these two cultivars are cut only from 1984.

The closest to TO you'll be able to get in seed will be the Bx1 TO/BMR x F2 TO/BMR seeds donated to the server fund in a few months.

The closest to BO in seed will be the BO x NL#5/Haze Bx1....possible donation at the same time.


Ahhhh, pure BO or TO, that would be awesome. I have been patiently waiting for news of some of your mixes and I am looking forward to supporting you and your work!!
 
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YosemiteSam

I definitely believe some salt/chemical based nutes and the assort can progressively and quickly degenerate a plants line. I've seen guys who done it in a years time. Totally destroy'd it.


What salt based nute can do that and by what mechanism?
 

Weyenot

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been reading this thread all day...still nowhere near caught up. figured i'd post something anyway cause in the 200+ pages I read there has been no mention of this.

do any of you guys eat the leaves from your garden? you must have tons of fan leaves after you defoliate to increase yields...:biggrin:

anyway, I came across this a while ago and ever since I have been juicing leaves whenever I have them, or making mj salads, etc. Figured y'all have probably already heard of this but here ya go

The power of RAW cannabis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEP9FdIzT8


Way to go Cann, I been meaning to ask that very question!!
Ive been enjoying mine for a few months in smoothies mostly; soaked chia seeds, golden flax, stevia leaf, ginger root, maca, cacao paste and a pinch of salt mmm mmm:)
 

Cann

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damn weye...eating healthy!!! i wish my smoothies could boast a list of accompaniments like that...

after watching that clip I feel like eating raw leaves is probably one of the healthiest things I do given the amount of carcinogens I am exposed to on a daily basis living in babylon, ca (inland empire ughhhhhh). holding a cell phone up to my head these days scares me...

Coot - I have been turning my soils 2x per day for a week and they still have a slight hint of ammonia. is this a problem? they are moist, not wet, bordering on dry even...I've been turning the soil and then spreading it out on tarps in the sun to try and speed the drying...but still has got that cat-piss ammonia stench when I stick my nose into the dirt (been picking out brown boogers lol) whats going on here???
 

rrog

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Cann- When you compact a fistful of soil, does it squeeze out water? Sounds like not. Could be just leftover from when it started stinking? Just so I can say I asked... do you have a cat by chance?
 

Cann

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as much as i squeeze i can't get any water out, so its definitely not over-saturated in my mind...its similar to the consistency of most bagged soils. and lol no i don't have a cat :) i do have a dog however but she knows damn well to stay away from my soil mixes, and all 4 of the tarps I have layed out have some level of ammonia smell - so thatd be a lot of piss in a lot of areas haha. it is not a strong ammonia smell, you dont smell it unless you bring your face in pretty close. isn't ammonia gas just part of the nitrogen cycle? Hoping to be able to transplant ASAP cause I just brought some ladies into flower a few days ago and they are only in 1gals at the moment
 
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