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Living organic soil from start through recycling
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The highest vitamins etc. are in the sprouts of plants. There are massive amounts in canna/hemp sprouts specifically. I remember reading a study about this many years ago as being one of the best sources in nature. I am sure someone will chime in with more specific and less vague info. This is really old and not a scientific paper but here is a a little basic nutrition info:
http://letstalkaboutpot.com/SmokePot/pot-seeds-healthy-nutrition/
http://letstalkaboutpot.com/SmokePot/pot-seeds-healthy-nutrition/
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That is definitely an interesting area of study - i.e. the health benefits from eating sprouted seeds, nuts, etc. That is well established.
Sprouted grain breads is a good example to look at.
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It's worse than that especially on 'value added' produce commodities.
When the leaf crops are picked they are moved to what are called 'packing sheds' and they are put through a hydro-cooling to pull the heat from the product so that it won't rot in transit.
A full truck-load of iceberg lettuce is around 880 cases. A typical packing shed in the Salinas Valley District will load 400 - 500 trucks every day during the 8 month season, 6 days a week. And there are several packing sheds and I'm just talking about lettuce crops - when you get into the gourmet salad mixes where trimming, cutting, etc. are involved there are more hydro baths that the product will go through because of the concerns with cross-contamination from product from one grower being mixed with product from another grower.
Take a salad mix with 5 - 10 items from 3 or 4 growers and you can see the risk involved - chlorine to the rescue!
Tomatoes, artichokes, some melons, etc. When you walk into the packing sheds the smell of chlorine is overwhelming.
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Organic Consumers Association - good organization and their weekly email is one to read about our food supply.
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Organic Consumers Association - good organization and their weekly email is one to read about our food supply.
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YosemiteSam
soft rock phosphate
soft rock phosphate
You don't see this mentioned much in this thread. It appears to me to have a lot going for it...P that does not tie itself up with Ca, a lot of Ca, amorphous silica that should convert to H4SiO4 (plant available) and a wide range of micros.
Is there a reason people avoid it that I am missing? Is it just because it cannot be locally sourced for most?
soft rock phosphate
You don't see this mentioned much in this thread. It appears to me to have a lot going for it...P that does not tie itself up with Ca, a lot of Ca, amorphous silica that should convert to H4SiO4 (plant available) and a wide range of micros.
Is there a reason people avoid it that I am missing? Is it just because it cannot be locally sourced for most?
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YosemiteSam
I am just curious why you don't see it mentioned more in this thread. Is there something about it that causes a problem?
Phosphate Rock: A Viable Option For Organic Farmers? - Organic Agriculture Centre of Canada (OACC)
Phosphorus Fertilizers for Organic Farming Systems - Colorado State University
As always it's about the source of the material down to the specific mine and country of origin.
"Cadmium" is the issue
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Phosphorus Fertilizers for Organic Farming Systems - Colorado State University
As always it's about the source of the material down to the specific mine and country of origin.
"Cadmium" is the issue
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YosemiteSam
I see KIS sells the Calphos brand. Is that one clean?
Calphos is from the Bone Valley in Florida and is the oldest rock phosphate mine in the US going back over 140 years. The other mines are in Idaho and on the coast of North Carolina. There are smaller deposits in Tennessee (i.e. Tennessee Brown SRP) and Indiana. The US produces about 25% of the world's total and the majority of that production is exported around the world. It's a huge industry.
Calphos has tight quality control checks in place and much of that is because of the regulatory issues in foreign countries where adults are in charge of such matters and heavy metals in soil amendments are closely monitored.
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Calphos has tight quality control checks in place and much of that is because of the regulatory issues in foreign countries where adults are in charge of such matters and heavy metals in soil amendments are closely monitored.
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The Phosphate Equation - Nutri-Tech Solutions
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YosemiteSam
Yea...if you have been using acid based P you can probably get a nice shot of Ca and P just by introducing fungi to that soil
My goal, though, is not to make it insoluble in the first place.
I find a guy named Bruce Tainio fascinating http://www.tainio.com/index.php?pageControl=home. If you look he simply uses microbiology to free up P and Ca along with several enzyme products for that microbiology.
Part of what this thread is about.
My goal, though, is not to make it insoluble in the first place.
I find a guy named Bruce Tainio fascinating http://www.tainio.com/index.php?pageControl=home. If you look he simply uses microbiology to free up P and Ca along with several enzyme products for that microbiology.
Part of what this thread is about.
Phosphatase - an enzyme provided by grass seed teas such as Barley
Can you point out which specific product you mean and how this is illustrated?
There are just sooo many companies stating this type of thing now that it's hard to keep up.
There is an argument to that, although what you state is a common assumption. Because (or if) making ACT multiplies enormous populations of bacteria and protozoa and because when protozoa eat bacteria there are enormous amounts of ionic form nutrients provided, ACT can be used as an ongoing regular nutrient provision.
We did exactly that for our corn crop last summer, using nothing but ACT.
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