Living organic soil from start through recycling

[ClackamasCootz]

Sean

Check out home desalination systems which use solar power to evaporate sea water and then collecting it giving you pure water.

With your fabrication skills you could put one together for very little money.

CC

 

[Seandawg]

Sean

Check out home desalination systems which use solar power to evaporate sea water and then collecting it giving you pure water.

With your fabrication skills you could put one together for very little money.

CC

That doesn't sound like too bad of an idea.

This is the first and easiest method I've seen yet...
http://www.ehow.com/how_8291926_build-desalination-watermaker.html

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Sean

Yep - that's as basic as it need to be.

I had a question for you about the ogo that you harvest and that is: After you've let it dry have you had a reason to rehydrate it?

And if you have, what would 1 tablespoon of dried ogo bulk out to if it were in a container, i.e. as much water available that it could possibly use.

CC

 

[Seandawg]

Sean

Yep - that's as basic as it need to be.

I had a question for you about the ogo that you harvest and that is: After you've let it dry have you had a reason to rehydrate it?

And if you have, what would 1 tablespoon of dried ogo bulk out to if it were in a container, i.e. as much water available that it could possibly use.

CC

CC

That is a very good question. The "Ogo" that i used in the past was a red seaweed (Rhodophyta) gracilaria bursa-pastoris.

Since being re-educated on particular types of seaweeds that are "most desirable". I have now converted to another native seaweed of the brown class (phaeophyta) commonly known as "Limu Kala" (Sargassum)

Most times I use it raw and fresh, either added to my compost, as a botanical tea, fermented, added to my worm bin, even directly into my recycled soil. The reasoning for drying and grinding is mainly as a means to preserve it for use for teas. Im going to say that a tablespoon rehydrated will increase its size by 4x or so? That is a very general estimate btw. To give a good perspective, I typically harvest a five gallon bucket full of seaweed. After its dried and ground, it fills about a half of a gallon zip loc bag.

SD

 

[Seandawg]

Also, I do use kelp meal. But since I have to pay for it, it is used sparingly. Only in my amendment mix and compost teas.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Thanks! I'll be back.....

 

[Seandawg]

Thanks! I'll be back.....

Go get em coot! Lol

 

[FunTimesIndeed]

I find that depressing.

That's why I wouldn't use something derived from sewage treatment enzymes and whatever comes out of the friendly people in Milwaukee. That plus it's gross.

 

[Coba]

...If interest gains maybe I'll do something like donate some to the server fund

count me down as Interested...

 

[ClackamasCootz]

It takes a while to really let all this info set and start to make sense. Hell I still don't understand a lot of this "Living soil" but I got cycles under the belt, steadily turning out better product and comprehending more every day

Neo 420

In it's simplest definition a 'living soil' is exactly that.

Alive with the ecosystem that is created by a number of things - humus, microbes, enzymes, amino acids, etc. meaning that the end of our definition of a cycle (finishing flowering) this soil is still alive but does lack the input from the plant's 'brain centers' found in the root zone and the apical meristem.

Through these 'brain centers' the plant dictates what 'nutes' are called up and will release 'exudes' that can and do trigger specific actions by the micro herd in conjunction with the tools at hand - enzymes and amino acids do much of the heavy lifting in this paradigm.

Plant exudes, microbe exudes, etc.

Something like that.......

CC

 

[shmalphy]

My water has 100ppm sodium, I assume this will become a problem over time for my recycling program. Should I consider a different water source?

edited: just read the last few posts about desalination... weird, we must be on the same wavelength... Thinking of setting up a rainwater collection system...

 

[ClackamasCootz]

shmalphy

100 ppm is an extremely tiny amount. Stinging Nettles leaves contain Sodium at 491,400 ppm for a comparison.

Colorado State University - Managing Sodic Soils - this isn't directly related to horticulture but it will give you a good understanding of Sodium in a soil.

HTH

CC

 

[Gascanastan]

But what about SEA 90?...come on man.....I used it once...wooooooooops.

Just check out this awesome site dood....

http://www.seaagri.com/applications.htm

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Yeah - I screwed myself with that......

Maybe I should have mixed it with milk or something equally inane. That or airplane de-icer......

 

[Gascanastan]

Right now I'm concerned about the Nemo Toads and Mole Asses leaving for drier parts.

Troubling times of organic gardeners according to "Sprout" at the grow store.

CC

Sir...what you need to do to keep your mole-asses from running off w/the spoon and your nemo-toads moist and delicious is spray w/hydrogen peroxide. This keeps the areas that would otherwise be dryer moist and free from disease.

gggawd I wish I had a cool name as associated w/cannabis...all I have is 'Swami Kushendez'...and that's a rip off form Jorge and Kyle...real guru's...real freekin canna Swami's man.

Oh well.... I guess I'll just have to transplant some clones today.
mix up a seedling mix......stuff some pots...turn some compost...check for bugs...that kind of stuff....you know....regular old garden work.

 

[YosemiteSam]

If you go here http://www.acresusa.com/toolbox/articles.htm and read the cation anion connection article it helps explain why interactions occur.

Be aware this is for soils with less than 30 cecs. Different rules apply...the plant dictates with root exudates what it wants...with high cec living soils. In other words the ratios are far less important.

But the CalMag thing tends to occur in lower cec soils.

 

[OrganicLearner]

Is there anyone out there more intelligent than I that knows of a simple way to filter out all the nasties from collected rain water? Looked up a bunch of videos on YouTube and it seems like complicated stuff or they're trying to sell something..today is going to be a good day..

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Air pump and airstone should take care of business in a day or so and then use it again when needed.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

But the CalMag thing tends to occur in lower cec soils

Coir + poor quality humus + synthetic 'nutes' = sounds about right.

CC

 

[Seandawg]

Is there anyone out there more intelligent than I that knows of a simple way to filter out all the nasties from collected rain water? Looked up a bunch of videos on YouTube and it seems like complicated stuff or they're trying to sell something..today is going to be a good day..

Nasties in rain water?
What's going on? Are people having sex in the clouds? I dont think I quite follow? The rain here can turn to sulphuric acid when vog levels are high. But what kind of "nasties" are in your rain water?