Living organic soil from start through recycling

[ClackamasCootz]

You can read about Leary's exploits in Laguna Beach during 'the day' circa 1967 until his arrest the day after Christmas, 1969

Lords of Acid - How the Brotherhood of Eternal Love Became Orange County's Hippie Mafia

 

[Coba]

CC
Read it when you first posted that link in this thread sir... been wanting to ask you whos tipper and beaver ever since then

 

[Coba]

Gascan...
My furst vehicle was a 71 bus... my fav. Year for the mini bus... first year of the disk brakes and the last year of the best engine vw ever made the 1600 Dual Port.

 

[OrganicLearner]

" hop on the bus Gus, don't need to discuss much, drop off the key lee and let yourself free...." damn hippies haha jk

 

[Microbeman]

I start my cuts in rapid rooters ( i got bags of them from new cloner users, lol.) that get buried in beer cups with holes in their bottoms. I used to use straight pro mix topped with EWC and had near 100% success, but I ran out of pro mix and the last two cycles have used my regular soil mix that was mixed over two years ago, again 100% success. For cloning gel i use gel from an aloe vera leaf. To wet the soil I use a weak mix of kelp meal and humic acid. (I used to use liquid karma, both work, but i don't buy LK anymore) I still use the old school dome and tray method that i always used, and they root in a warm room of 80+ degrees, for light I use some low watt CFL(cool white) bulbs. Once I see the cut's bottom leaves turn yellow I usually can be safe in assuming they have rooted. This may take 6-14 days depending on variety. Not speedy, but simple, and it works for me......scrappy

Pretty much similar but I like the peat pellets so I can see the roots. We used compost tea for wetting.

 

[OrganicLearner]

Do you put a dome over clones in promix CC? Or a ziplock bag maybe?

 

[Microbeman]

Do you put a dome over clones in promix CC? Or a ziplock bag maybe?

No need for the extra expense of promix, unless you have it kicking around anyway. Straight sphagnum peatmoss is good - better in my opinion due to a higher density of anti-pathogenic microorganisms. (pathogens = pythium, fusarium, botrytis, erwinia)

 

[OrganicLearner]

Would you be able to reuse the peat mm? I just looked at a thread by another member and he had good success with this method but the way he does it is a bit hydro..he even had success with rooting a fan leaf 7 weeks through flower..

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=188106

 

[Microbeman]

Would you be able to reuse the peat mm? I just looked at a thread by another member and he had good success with this method but the way he does it is a bit hydro..he even had success with rooting a fan leaf 7 weeks through flower..

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=188106

Sorry but I don't know what you mean by reuse. Theoretically if you use peat for rooting a cutting, the peat will be filled with roots and you just plant the rootball. Am I missing something?

 

[OrganicLearner]

No not missing anything I was just wondering if you can maybe gently wash the peat off the roots to reuse again, I think I might try cloning with the perlite or napa seems like it would be easier to reuse and also try with the peat an see which one does better and if it is worth it I'll just keep buying the bales of peat..

 

[Microbeman]

No not missing anything I was just wondering if you can maybe gently wash the peat off the roots to reuse again, I think I might try cloning with the perlite or napa seems like it would be easier to reuse and also try with the peat an see which one does better and if it is worth it I'll just keep buying the bales of peat..

Okay, I read the thread you linked to and now understand the confusion. He is not using Sphagnum Peatmoss, rather he is using Sphagnum Moss -- Totally different!!

Here is what I posted over there;

Good job. If this is pointed out all ready please disregard but Sphagnum Moss should not be confused with Sphagnum Peatmoss.
Two entirely different products! Shagnum moss is pretty much kept alive after harvest. It is the top layer in the bog and is normally used for supporting hanging basket arrangements. It does have the potential to carry a dangerous (for humans) fungus, Sporotrichosis.
Research before using.

Sphagnum Peatmoss on the other hand is entirely safe to use and it is the material used in soil mixes. It is harvested from lower down and dried out.

I have used Sphagnum Peatmoss for rooting for about 30 years with great success. I usually pack the little plastic planters (72 to a tray) with wet peatmoss, poke a hole, use rooting compound and Glomus Intraradices powder and push into the hole and squeeze as described herein, then cover with a hood. I also got 95 to 100% rooting and did up to 6000 cuttings per period. (eg. over 5 to 10 days, depending on help).

I was directed to this thread from organic soil so I'll post a copy of this over there so people can see they are two different products.

I'll have to try the Shagnum moss sometime, even though it scares me.

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

The best use for pearlite I've found with clones is as a babysitter. In a small Rubbermaid tub 1/3 full of perlite, I'll add h2o + b1 + humic acid + aloe vera (light on the b1 & humic) to about half the height of the pearlite and bury an airstone. Assuming the clones have already done a few days of rooting in cubes under a dome, they're happy in this setup for up-to 2 weeks sittin in their cubes in top of the pearlite (YMMV).

 

[OrganicLearner]

Gotcha thanks for clearing that up microbeman

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

High guys.

Heres something else i discovered about the miracles of charcoal. Because it absorbs so well and actually only absorbs toxins and bad shit (not to be confused with its ability to hold onto fertilizer, healthy microherd etc) Bit of a contradiction there but perhaps this will clear it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0kSM70c1CY&feature=relmfu

So im thinking that any bad bacteria or things like root rot might be tackled/prevented by the char...

Hell it works on snake bites, spider bites and even burnt flesh!!! I am in awe of nature and what can happen if we work with her...

 

[Microbeman]

that youtube smells like sales pitch. Is there another info resource?

 

[shmalphy]

I've never bought the straight peat, because I was always under the assumption that I needed to lime and aerate it, and it was easier to just buy the pro mix which has everything pre-mixed, including the mycorrhizae.... I might just buy sphagnum next time since I am almost out of Pro Mix and see how it does.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

No he isnt selling anything overtly on the youtube vids. Its just free info on lots of natural cures using things like coconut oil and cucumbers.

But i will have a wee looksie for verifying info.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

This has lots of testimonies to the benefits of charcoal. PS. Activated charcoal just means its been crushed up real good.

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/charcoal.html

 

[shmalphy]

We ate charcoal a lot growing up.. as in everything my mom cooked... Maybe it absorbed the toxins from the cigarette smoke... explains my survival

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

We take charcoal for food poisoning and such - works wonders