NL #5 is said to be east Indian Afghan x thai ...
Well, according to Elmer Bud here, who heard (and has posted convo) from Seattle Greg, its Hawaiian that was used in the NL#5... Course, could very well be a thai from hawaii...
^lol, srsly... stories are fun, though.
Huh, I wonder if that "east indian afghani" is derived from that "Neville got NL from the 'indian'" story.. Too bad Foe20 still wasnt.around, that dude had hella experience with BCSC NL#5, probably still could find some threads/posts from him about it.
i think afgham genetics being in there is a pretty safe bet, dense buds in quantity is universal in all descriptions
one interesting thing i saw in my 1 pheno of the #5, which of course may not mean much
it had trichomes that would not cloud up, they would slowly get a yellow tinge
not brown, it took a looong time for that pheno to show brown trichs
a poster mentioned this can be seen in some tropical sativas
so the genetics in what i grew still have my interest
Oh yeah, afghan definately, but I meant the "east indian" part of the afghan Jwilly posted.. never heard that before. Was the NL you ran from Nirvana by any chance igrowone?
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7172832&postcount=69NL Seattle Greg said:Aloha,
The base plants for the entire Seattle Northern Lights strains 1 to 10 was a batch of seed sent from Afghanistan that ended up in Herbie's employers hands who just happened to be an old friend from High School so I was able to get four seeds. Then I started doing seed crops of the pure Indica and crossing it with other strains from Nepal, Mexico, and Columbia.
I had clones and seed and NL#5 was Hawaiian x Steve Murphy's Afghani Strain that is what I sent to Nevil. Steve Murphy owned The Indoor Sun Shoppe in Seattle. NL #5 was a F1 hybrid in 1982.
Northern lights # 1 was Nevils Afghani crossed with the Seattle Afghan strain form Steve Murphy.
I have been breeding since 1970 and he got NL from me. I sent seed to Ben and Kees at Sensi too for giving me the nutrient formula for Grodan and Seattle water.
The 11 strains were graded by height and flavor for indoor growing. The #1 was a short phenotype pure Indica from Afghanistan as was #2,3, & 4. #5 to #11 were the Hybrids with the narrow leaved strains we worked with.
The 11 packets of seed Nevil received were graded the #1 ,2, 3, were 100% indica, #5 the clone I traded Herbie Nelson for was 50% Afghani & 50% Hawaiian sativa. The others #6-#11 were crosses with Columbian, Thai, and Mexican Sativas. Nevil then sold out to Ben, became partners with Arjan, and then hooked up with the Mr. Nice Crew.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-s...-nevil-afghani-kush-lines-other-grail-11.htmlNevil said:[FONT="]When I first got the NL varieties, there were 8 types, 1-8.
They came with descriptions, which I published in my catalogue. These descriptions may not correlate with what later developed. The original intention was to purchase seeds from the US NL growers. It didn't work out and supply dried up. I kept the lines separate and inbred them. NL1 and NL2 stabilised into distinct types and NL5 only produced one unique individual.
NL1 was a full blood Afghan indica. One thick main stem, dark green leaves, modest yield with nuggety buds, a little coarse with good resin production, which when ripe went golden. The high was narcotic. The seeds ranged from tiny to massive. I used to love the big ones. Large fat heavily and darkly mottled seeds. Selecting for these seeds made this Afghan even coarser. It was fun to show people these seeds.
The best line of NL1 actually came from the smaller seeded types, better high and bud structure.
There weren't many pure indica lines around in those days. Big Bud, Hash Plant and G13 were pure indicas in my estimation, but were cuttings. NL1 was the only good pure Afghani male line I had.( there was Sams Afghani#1, but that was toxic in a bad way) The NL2 was a Kush.
I put the NL1 out there as a pure strain. I wasn't popular. People would tell me, "give me the pure strains", but if it cost them 10% of their yield they would complain, well try 50%.
The pure indica hybrids were more popular. NL1 x HP and NL1 x G13 were the best. At least people could use the word pure (very popular). But they were good!
I expect that a lot of people holding what they believe to be pure indicas today, would find, if the truth be known, that the sire line traces back to NL1.
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http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-s...-nevil-afghani-kush-lines-other-grail-11.htmlNevil said:[FONT="]That's right OS. I did go to the States later and pick up the original U.S. NL5 mother and it was as it was described to me, part Thai. But my NL5 didn't seem to have any Thai influence. I spent a lot of time analysing the NL lines, in particular NL5.
I only saw evidence of two indica male lines in the NL series and that was NL1 and NL2. My best bet was that NL5 was a combination of NL1 male line and US NL5 female. I guessed that US5 was 50% NL2. Northern Lights 2x5 was the best that I could do staying within the line (pure NL).
Northern Lights changed the face of cannabis genetics (and many a smoker), but it was mostly through NL5. You've got to marvel at fate for dropping that one extreme plant into the lap of a budding seed breeder.
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