What a rip-off. I don't know what makes them think they can sell any of this shit at higher than legacy market prices. Do they think we're retarded? The reason all of it was expensive is because if you got caught producing or selling any of this stuff it would land you in prison for a long time and completely ruin your life. That was the trade off. It's supposed to be legal now so why is it more expensive??? These assholes aren't risking anything except for someone else's money, so prices should be somewhere around what you would pay for any other produce. Because that's what it is, fucking produce. What a joke.
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Legal Seeds
- Thread starter Rider420
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I'm sure no one here owns or has grown any Dutch Passion seeds.
LOL I've got nothing against existing seed co that are illegal like Dutch Passion. Or bringing their experience to LP here in Canada.
FYI Weed me is offering seeds:
https://dutchie.com/dispensaries/spiritleaf-penticton/menu/?search=seeds&sortBy=alpha
"Weed Me is the exclusive Canadian partner of world renowned Amsterdam-based seed producer “Dutch Passion”.
Exclusively producing recognized strains like CBD Charlotte’s Angel, Lemon Zkittle and White Widow."
https://weedme.ca/
Have you tried their WEED ME : THIN MINT oops that's right you don't buy LP "shit" so you would not know just like you never buy any beer because someone told you it tastes like horse piss right?
Cool I remember you guys had your own web site thanks. I find growing out old seeds lines disappointing due to nostalgia. Best of luck dude.
If you drink Budweiser or Labatts products... enough said.
I clearly said nothing even remotely close to that, nice try though
What I said was, no LP's in Canada are spending money the way you claim they are on breeding. That's just a fact of reality... I'm not sure why it makes you uncomfortable.
I worked with one of the best funded groups on the planet breeding cannabis, the R&D costs were insane to screen thousands of plants & we built a very high throughput analytical lab to support the work. Dozens & dozens of research lines screening 100+ plus females per generation with analytics on every plant.
It's a really expensive undertaking. I work with Canadian LPs importing genetics & doing selections on scale screening plants... I know what I'm speaking about because I actually do the work.
Nobody in Canada is screening plants like you claim, thats just fantasy. They are struggling to make profit just growing flowers. The idea that there is a market for millions of seeds, or that can support this kind of investment in genetics research is again, not in line with reality.
I remember being told canntrust had a breeding progamme. I wasn't very popular when I told that employee of canntrust it's not a breeding programme they just cross what they like together with the hope of finding something good. That is fine if you're a hobby grower or if you're just making seeds for yourself and friends.
The screening work is so mis understood it's like people they plants have barcodes and it should cost next to nothing and can't believe there aren't loads of markers available for them.
The way the markets are going, do you see a proper modern breeding programme developing in cannabis?
Charles mentioned a few times he tests everything now. A lot of tests for sure.
Tynehead Tom
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and you believe that?
what is he testing everything for?
and by everything..... how many plant specimens is he dealing with?
Whatever happened to good old fashioned selection criteria?
Soon people on the web will claim if you aren't testing "everything" you aren't breeding LOL
I have a pretty strict regimen I follow for selecting potential parents but the only "lab" work I do is with a loupe and microscope to count resin glands per square cm of leaf surface.
I do find the lab tests of cured flowers to be an interesting addition to the breeder's tool kit. I'd rather flower out potential mothers and have their finished product tested and look at the terpene and cannabinoid profiles but this is only feasible in small batch breeding or "craft" breeding.
Now if you are working in the labs of a medical cannabis research facilty , on the cutting edge of tailoring specific plants to target specific ailments..... yes.... test "everything" because that test equipment would be on hand. For an average Breeder selling seeds to the recreational market.... legal or not..... testing "everything" would cost so much the seed sales would never cover the cost.
I've bought in with a small group of Craft cannabis folks with like minds and attitudes. I will be co owner and head of the Micro Nursery.... pheno hunting, breeding, tissue culture storage ect. The other members of the group hold micro production license(s) and 2 licensed store fronts.
The idea , if the costs can be worked to realize a realistic profit …. and the powers that be don't phuck with our plans..... will be to offer seed sales and tissue culture clones thru the licensed storefronts or by internet sales.
All in it's toddler stages and the damn Virus is getting in the way due to so many tradesman being laid off. Hard to find electricians, plumbers, hvac guys in the interior right now so the site is shut down till that idiot leader of the criminal party decides to lift the stupid novel corona virus from Wuhan china restrictions LOL
Sure, yeah. We have been friends for over ten years, no reason to lie to me, nothing gained.
He doesn't cover the cost through seed sales.
He said they test very early; there are things to look for that determines keepers early on. I didn't get details as my foggy memory recalls.
He doesn't cover the cost through seed sales.
He said they test very early; there are things to look for that determines keepers early on. I didn't get details as my foggy memory recalls.
Tynehead Tom
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would be interesting to know more about the advanced testing parameters available these days in the legal regions. In the states where legal, you can send early leaf samples and get male/female determination but I don't think any other data is provided. Not sure if we have that testing available in Canada.
As a legal grower (acmpr) I can send samples to get tested after harvest and gives a typical analysis for cannabinoids/terpenes/contaminants but that's about it.
anyhow.....
I think it will be years before we see widespread , ready to order , seed and clone sales in Canada unfortunately. The Industry itself needs to learn that the model the Liberanos has laid out , does not work and it will 'never' be able to compete with the community market that spawned in the 60's (arguably) and has spread and flourished despite the constant decades of the "war on weed".
I'm joining the "industry" with trepidation and with a fairly modest investment just to see where the road leads. My goal is to offer a wide variety of known and vetted genetics, worked in house and made available to the public in seed and tissue cultured clone form.
Guess we'll see if we crash n burn or not hehehe
The testing is available in canada and the easiest way to obtain it is to extract the dna on site then send to a lab who is certified to do it. It's unclear to me if you need to have a license to run just the dna in the lab or if it is allowed as the dna cannot be used as a drug.
The biggest obstacle is not having the markers that you're looking for, testing is great for terpene and cannabinoid levels, as long as the labs are doing it correctly, but what else are you testing for if you cannot identify them, skunkman said there aren't very many markers available publicly. My assumption is sex is about the only marker available easily.
The biggest obstacle is not having the markers that you're looking for, testing is great for terpene and cannabinoid levels, as long as the labs are doing it correctly, but what else are you testing for if you cannot identify them, skunkman said there aren't very many markers available publicly. My assumption is sex is about the only marker available easily.
Tynehead Tom
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my assumption is the same..... sex and cannabinoid/terpene analysis is best we can hope for with testing in Canada.
To take it any further would require in house lab with a host of technology to do work like genetic mapping ect.
If you have a host plant that is the mother of the future line and a full mapping of that female then it gives you a base line to search progeny for all that female's markers.... I guess..... I'm not a geneticist hehehe
This is why I am very wary of "any" breeder out there that claims to do this kind of work on the seed lines they advertise.
Breeding cannabis is an artform and some folks are really good at it despite not having a team of lab folks at their disposal to test their work with.
Some people deserve the curse of never being happy. Karma bitches never satisfied never happy looks good on ya.
Want to get personal? I would love to talk to you in person or better yet have a little game of shimmy. I will take the five for fighting.
Smoking my legal weed laughing at the ones left behind too scared to join in the new order.
There is no new (world) order bro, and its not fear, its a decision based on derision.
Sure I guess. But just because some people prefer better beer doesn't mean they aren't happy, on the contrary, probably happier, as its so much better. But I imagine the type of happiness you get drinking Budweiser is the one you want
Sure I guess. But just because some people prefer better beer doesn't mean they aren't happy, on the contrary, probably happier, as its so much better. But I imagine the type of happiness you get drinking Budweiser is the one you want
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
Some fucked up shit going on tonight! Chill dudes, hey Cheech....
what's happening?
Lmao we got a tough guy.
So you've got an axe to grind and weak emotional control.
Who hurt you? Pappy? Mommy? Uncle a little too friendly?
Guy's over here smoking microwaved weed drinking alcoholic water pretending it's ribeye and whiskey.
Glass house eh
