LED lights for growing

[Guest]

LED...... Experiments.......

LED...... Experiments.......

Hey some good Karma your way just for the fact you are doing what you are doing. Cutting edge and the future. Keep up the great work.

If I knew more about resistors, and all that drop watt or what ever, I would be doing some experiments myself. I'm sure you know that NASA is studying these for growth of plants in long space voyages, this and mercury-microwave lamps that produce extraordinary heat. I bet they end up going with the LEDs.

I think in ten years pretty much most of our light uses will come from LED technology. As one scientist put it in this article I read but can't site, "...conventional lights make much better heaters than they do methods of producing light".

Anyways will send ya some rep points too, you definitely are ahead of your time but I bet not by as much as people think.

Peace

 

[Liam]

Screw LED's, OLED's are the future!

 

[Guest]

OK........ I have to take the bait.....

OK........ I have to take the bait.....

What is/are OLEDs?

Peace

 

[smokeymacpot]

i don't have other pics yet, BUT i have plants under leds that you desire to see. i DID show those pics on og and deleted them afterwards. i'll try to get a camera and show you what i've got.just tell me one more thing...what light do you use? it must be something else 'coz every light i used so far, plants were small in the beginning...
furthermore, why 30cm indica ? is that somekind of standard i'm not aware of ? no experiment is valid unless you have a indica pref. 30 cm tall? since there is not much light penetration, you have to adopt certain growing styles (pref. scrog or sog) so i try to keep them low.AND, those pics were my very first grow, power plant grew undes 1/4 of that system so 17 : 4 = 4,25 w. don't you think that plant is a good representation of led with her 1g/1w ratio on my very fisrt grow ? it's not the best, but hey , i'm not complaining .if you wish to see what leds can do stick around and you'll be surprised, i guarantee.if not, go , but let me do my experiments, for those who wish to see them.

p.s.none taken

lp,g


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i had this in my gallery, forgot about that.this was taken 14 days ago and hopefuly you'll he her as she is today

i said 30cm cos i wanted to see a bigger fatter plant, if all buds are small then it wont show people its an effective grow method and they will stick to CFL and HPS growing.
i would like to see a new pic of that plant.

 

[LED_experiments]

smokeymacpot: have you ever grown a plant under 17W? what did you get if you did? greg used 4 plants, so it was only 4,25W/plant. is there any other type of light that can give you such results?
get a 18W cfl and try to grow something. if you get better results, then let us know. i am very interested in your results. othervise there is no sense in comparing his 17W setup to 400W hps or 200W cfl. where is your logic? i think 1g/w for his very first grow is a very good result. i know a lot of hps growers, who grew a lot of indoors, but they still can't get 1g/w.
how far did you get? how long have you been growing indoor? what was your first grow g/w ratio?

 

[Guest]

These lights can't be compared to other types of lights....

These lights can't be compared to other types of lights....

They produce light in a completely different way than conventional lights. There is no sense in doing that. That would be like comparing a laser with a shot gun.
The technology and the availability of equipment priced in the usual persons grasp is just not there yet...... that can not be argued. It is a fact. Can small prototypes grow productively? Absolutely, will these prototypes spur others and those still others? Undoubtedly. If it were not viable it would not be one of just two types of light NASA is studying, the other is a mercury lamp that is bombarded with microwaves and produces so much heat that it must be suspended in the air and spun at astronomical speeds.

Peace

 

[Guest]

no offence dude, but the pics you posted show TINY wispy plants. im in no way a doubter, but if you want to show how good LED's are, how about showing a nice bushy indica thats at least 30cm tall ?

i said 30cm cos i wanted to see a bigger fatter plant, if all buds are small then it wont show people its an effective grow method and they will stick to CFL and HPS growing.

look, leds do not perform miracles. if all buds are small... what is your definition of small? and what is that definition based upon? for me, those buds were not small IF you take into account the total power consumption. to be honest , i've seen much smaller buds under 70w hps, not to mention cfls.and i've also noticed that people continualy raise their expectations about leds. first, they won't grow anything, not enough lumens,power (or enter any other wrong unit). then, only small plants. after showing you a g/w ratio on my very first indoor ever (my first GROW ever) it is still not enough.

how about this: we stop analizing old pics and focus on my (or any other) current grow and see what we can learn? it will be much more beneficial to the couse (the couse being cheap and effective lighting for every pocket)

i am prepared to make a grow diary or post any and all progress. you also wanted to see an indica, you'll se an indica. i have deep chunk seedlings under leds right now. but it has to be know that deep chunk is a low yielder so the test for those plant will have to be a smoke report. anyone stopping by will be welcome to test it so we can get a objective report

 

[PHB]

A grow diary would be great!

i am prepared to make a grow diary or post any and all progress. you also wanted to see an indica, you'll se an indica. i have deep chunk seedlings under leds right now. but it has to be know that deep chunk is a low yielder so the test for those plant will have to be a smoke report. anyone stopping by will be welcome to test it so we can get a objective report

 

[dude06version]

the point is no one would grow a plant with a 18w cfl.. when i can buy 200 watts of led for 25 bucks instead of thousands of dollars let me know.200 watts of cfls can produce decent bud and it cost like 25 bucks.. simply put the price tag required to grow leds isnt worth it atm...

 

[Jack Crevalle]

Awesome feedback guys thanks!

So what I'm seeing is that this is a real thing, just in the baby phase, still developing.
Thanks a million for the awesome pics LEDex.and Greg, you guys are pioneers. I had idiots talking all kinds of shit when I bought my T5s to replace MH and add extra light with less heat and energy years ago and who's laughing now.

I bet LED is the future, and the nay sayers are sad, ignorant haters. Props and much respect guys - Where there's a will, there's a way!

Peace

 

[tngreen]

greg and the others using this, i applaude your pioneering on this! ever since i first read about it, ive been intrigued and will be following every grow. leds will be a viable option not very long from now and i personally cant wait!

 

[Adam01]

I'm excited to see this technology develop and become a viable option for the average grower. I will definately invest LED growing as soon as they become affordable. Right now I'm using CFL's with excellent results, but just the other day I got in an arguement with somebody who said that fluorescent lighting doesn't work for growing! So for you brave few who are out there spending major cash on experimenting with new technology, I salute you. Don't be discouraged by people who put you down.

 

[LED_experiments]

Don't be discouraged by people who put you down.

we are not discouraged by them. we have been listening to them for so long, that we learned how to ignore them . we know they are wrong, and maybe so do they. but they just don't want to admit that they are.
it is nice to see such a positive feedback and that so many people are interested in our experiments.

 

[smokeymacpot]

look, leds do not perform miracles. if all buds are small... what is your definition of small? and what is that definition based upon? for me, those buds were not small IF you take into account the total power consumption. to be honest , i've seen much smaller buds under 70w hps, not to mention cfls.and i've also noticed that people continualy raise their expectations about leds. first, they won't grow anything, not enough lumens,power (or enter any other wrong unit). then, only small plants. after showing you a g/w ratio on my very first indoor ever (my first GROW ever) it is still not enough.

how about this: we stop analizing old pics and focus on my (or any other) current grow and see what we can learn? it will be much more beneficial to the couse (the couse being cheap and effective lighting for every pocket)

i am prepared to make a grow diary or post any and all progress. you also wanted to see an indica, you'll se an indica. i have deep chunk seedlings under leds right now. but it has to be know that deep chunk is a low yielder so the test for those plant will have to be a smoke report. anyone stopping by will be welcome to test it so we can get a objective report

you dont understand what im saying... i am not dissing your led grows!!! i just want to see a bigger plant grown under LED's to compare its effectiveness to the hps and cfls that the rest of us use. if you need to add more LED's to do that, then add more!! you are past the stage of proving that bud can grow under the leds, now move on...... because it is you thats dwelling on the past not me.. im encouraging you to move forwards with it.

if you still continue to think im dissing LED's and their ability to grow, even after ive told you TWICE that im not, then you are not worth any attention from anyone and should get lost untill you can discuss and talk with people in a nice way.

btw im about 2 weeks into flower with a superskunk under a 70w hps and my buds are already bigger than yours. so dont compare your grow with plants that were obviously flowered too early and yeilded next to nothing, because a 70w is plenty capable of making nice buds!

 

[smokeymacpot]

smokeymacpot: have you ever grown a plant under 17W? what did you get if you did? greg used 4 plants, so it was only 4,25W/plant. is there any other type of light that can give you such results?
get a 18W cfl and try to grow something. if you get better results, then let us know. i am very interested in your results. othervise there is no sense in comparing his 17W setup to 400W hps or 200W cfl. where is your logic? i think 1g/w for his very first grow is a very good result. i know a lot of hps growers, who grew a lot of indoors, but they still can't get 1g/w.
how far did you get? how long have you been growing indoor? what was your first grow g/w ratio?

i veg with 1 18w cfl per plant, they do not stretch and the nodes are very close together, then they go under the 70w hps. why would i want to try and do a full flowering with one cfl? id likely end up with shitty little buds like the one shown earlier. but then i found my plants did well in veg, so it might have done better? who knows? i wont cos i aint gonna try when i have hps to use...
where did i say i want to compare with a 400w hps ? i did say i wanted to see a plant grown as big as possible to get more and bigger buds, so it would give me and other people an idea how good they can be. then we would know that it would require say 50w of led to equal 100w of hps or whatever.

my first grow? i never weighed it. g/w doesnt mean much to me, i grow my plants, get some nice buds and then smoke it.

 

[Guest]

SmokeymacPot.......

SmokeymacPot.......

Think of it this way...... What if you could go out an buy a ballast and a bulb that used 1/20th the electricity and only produced light in the exact peak spectrum of both the A and B chlorophyll in red a blue and in the exact quantity to saturate each spectrum. This is where the technology is heading. Not there yet and definitely not affordable yet but will definitely happen in the future. Now think about a grow where the extra heat generated was barely warm enough to not use a heater when the lights are on but have to when the lights are off because no build up of heat in objects in the grow room.

This is where the technology is heading but is not there yet. We had to build a model A before we built Lamborghinis. But each new idea leads to another and then to another. The model A could not compete with the steam engine at the time it was invented but where are the steam engines and where are the offspring of the model As? The technology has been around quite some time it is just that a very few of us have the know how to put it together and still less of us can afford it at its current prices. It is not a question of can it do it? It is a question of when will the technology become commercially viable to the average grower of our craft.

Peace

 

[Guest]

btw im about 2 weeks into flower with a superskunk under a 70w hps and my buds are already bigger than yours. so dont compare your grow with plants that were obviously flowered too early and yeilded next to nothing, because a 70w is plenty capable of making nice buds!

i have grown with a 70w hps,check the micro section. i was tring to say that even with a light wich is proven to grow nice buds you can still mess up and get shitty buds so you should not judge after seeing one grow.get it?

you dont understand what im saying... i am not dissing your led grows!!! i just want to see a bigger plant grown under LED's to compare its effectiveness to the hps and cfls that the rest of us use. if you need to add more LED's to do that, then add more!! you are past the stage of proving that bud can grow under the leds, now move on...... because it is you thats dwelling on the past not me.. im encouraging you to move forwards with it.

it's easy to say add more.why didn't i think of that? why don't you run a 5kw setup instead of 70w, i really want to see some big buds...stop living in the past man...add watts....do you see how that comes out?get it?

if you still continue to think im dissing LED's and their ability to grow, even after ive told you TWICE that im not, then you are not worth any attention from anyone and should get lost untill you can discuss and talk with people in a nice way.

it is you that lacks a certain degree of maners. never have i told anybody to get lost on an international (or any other) forum.i did not come here to have been told to get lost, i just wanted to show those who are interested, what i'm doing.looks like i overstayed my welcome.

 

[smokeymacpot]

i have grown with a 70w hps,check the micro section. i was tring to say that even with a light wich is proven to grow nice buds you can still mess up and get shitty buds so you should not judge after seeing one grow.get it?

it's easy to say add more.why didn't i think of that? why don't you run a 5kw setup instead of 70w, i really want to see some big buds...stop living in the past man...add watts....do you see how that comes out?get it?

it is you that lacks a certain degree of maners. never have i told anybody to get lost on an international (or any other) forum.i did not come here to have been told to get lost, i just wanted to show those who are interested, what i'm doing.looks like i overstayed my welcome.

i dont need more than 70w to grow a good plant + i would have heat issues.
you however are experimenting with led grows, yes u found you can grow with 17w, but it wasnt effective as other lights, hence why you should add more, not me. i saw a 70w + led grow on here, i think it was yours, where the plant grew too tall to make use of the hps.

i lack manners when people misinterpret what ive said several times to them, ive never had bad intention in ANY post on this forum. you saw something that wasnt there and that irks me...
and wether you stay or go is no skin off my nose, i just hope someone will show us a bigger wattage led grow, so we can decide wether to try it or not.

 

[Guest]

You got a gram per watt using leds on your first try??I'm not one to exaggerate my numbers I've been growing indoors seriously about 6 years now flowering with 3 1K vertizontals and I'm not pulling a gram per watt lol.I only wish I were lol.Of course my 8 by 8 room isnt stocked with bigbud either to be sure,strain will have a big impact on yield but damn a gram a watt is just quite a lot,especially for soil grows.I'm really happy pulling 1 1/2 lbs of chronic from a 1K vertizontal in soil,I'm not going to do much better than that.What are OLED's or was that just a pissant post.

 

[Guest]

i lack manners when people misinterpret what ive said several times to them, ive never had bad intention in ANY post on this forum. you saw something that wasnt there and that irks me...
and wether you stay or go is no skin off my nose, i just hope someone will show us a bigger wattage led grow, so we can decide wether to try it or not.

i have no intention of leaving nor did i say that. why should i leave, there is so much knowledge on this forum no self respecting grower would just leave it becouse he/she doesn't see eye-to-eye with every member.i'll still do everything i did before just limit myself to my thread everybody who is interested will find any info they desire and i wont bother the rest of this respected comunity.fair?

you however are experimenting with led grows, yes u found you can grow with 17w, but it wasnt effective as other lights, hence why you should add more, not me.

i do not agree.i think it was effective given the situation. my only options were cfl,neon, leds or nothing. i belive i made the right choise

i saw a 70w + led grow on here, i think it was yours, where the plant grew too tall to make use of the hps.

yes, my last grow didn't go as planed and i am the first to admit it (actually i was the first to admit it). the one before was pretty good, don't you think?

p.s.: we went off topic