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i agree. i am going to give leds one more go and if i still get low yield then i will be back to HPS for sure.
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i agree. i am going to give leds one more go and if i still get low yield then i will be back to HPS for sure.
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irishboy
regardless i could have done allot better on both sides if i didn't have to keep things so fair. if i did some pruning and bending it would have been better on both sides. but that what happens when u do a side by side you have to leave them alone because someone will say its not fair this one has better pruning or this and that. thats the name of the game.
101.9 grams divided by 180W "spectrally targeted" light = .57 grams per watt (sounds on par with what Rumple did).
90W Spectrally targeted light, 12W Infra-red, 24W of white. (Regardless) 88.9g divided by 114W (actual power used to create light) = .78 grams per watt.
So in the end, the gram per watt #'s turn out in favor of our 1st generation product. Had the canopies been kept equal, I'd dare to say that our plants would have matched the yield or done slightly better using only 126W. The ending difference in yield between the two lights (88.9g divided by 101.9) is about 12% (made up for in our 2nd gen light with 15% more red for flowering), while the difference in power between the two lights was 30%. It's very easy to see that our 205W model (which costs the same as the PS 180W) would easily outperform their Jumbo UFO.
Thanks again Irish for the grow. You proved to everyone what I said all along: that our lights are more efficient at growing plants watt for watt (and in this case using 10W per square foot less light!). I wish you the best in your future endeavors.
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MeanBean
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I hear ya on that! No matter what you do there's always something Someone will say. I definatly got a little trick up my sleeve next time around!!
But you gotta wait to see that. Anyhow I am getting a 126 wat 2nd gen, so I am going to grow 4 plants under it. Taking clones in a few days hear for that grow.
But the very next grow I start is just gonna be 2 oasis clones "vegging now" that I am gonna FIM the F outta. I veggged to little last time, and FIM'ed one brach. It made 4 so I am confident I can do the whole plant!
It's getting topped, then fimmed on the 2 nodes that come up, as well as a fimmming on all the side folige head colas. Then let it veg 24 hrs for a week er so. maybe a second row down fimming too!
But you gotta wait to see that. Anyhow I am getting a 126 wat 2nd gen, so I am going to grow 4 plants under it. Taking clones in a few days hear for that grow.
But the very next grow I start is just gonna be 2 oasis clones "vegging now" that I am gonna FIM the F outta. I veggged to little last time, and FIM'ed one brach. It made 4 so I am confident I can do the whole plant!
It's getting topped, then fimmed on the 2 nodes that come up, as well as a fimmming on all the side folige head colas. Then let it veg 24 hrs for a week er so. maybe a second row down fimming too!
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irishboy
i just wish my 180w hindu skunk wasn't a runt because that is a great strain, that has the best smell. and is very sticky. would have been nice to have another big one of those girls to smoke on.
Just thinking about it, I wanted to do some basic math and see what the 205W might have done in this situation based off your results with the 126W. So .71 x 205 = 145.6g
Now obviously the 205W would likely give you more than .71 grams per watt since it packs 13W more light per square foot than our 126W panel, and also includes 15% more red than our first generation panels. It would do far better with a little bit of training as well (say scrog). Guess I'm going to have to keep trying to find someone who wants to do a 180W vs 205W side by side
Now obviously the 205W would likely give you more than .71 grams per watt since it packs 13W more light per square foot than our 126W panel, and also includes 15% more red than our first generation panels. It would do far better with a little bit of training as well (say scrog). Guess I'm going to have to keep trying to find someone who wants to do a 180W vs 205W side by side
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Just my quess, but the majority of people are more interested in those led versus hid-tests at this point.
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LittleShroomie
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Dont forget that the ballast drains some power as well, a 250W hps is around 300W (depending on ballast of course).
LEDGirl: If someone from the EU orders those LED panels, are you willing to change the "value" specified on the package in order to avoid heavy costums charges for the costumers part?
Because there is another company here, that produces panels aswell (although more expensive) and I dont have to pay any extra for the unit.
I think this grow went real good!
More interesting than say a normal HID grow.
LEDGirl: If someone from the EU orders those LED panels, are you willing to change the "value" specified on the package in order to avoid heavy costums charges for the costumers part?
Because there is another company here, that produces panels aswell (although more expensive) and I dont have to pay any extra for the unit.
I think this grow went real good!
More interesting than say a normal HID grow.
I agree, but those won't begin for another few weeks. I think LED vs LED tests are of equal importance though, as the world is going to switch to LED within the coming years. By proving to the public that our lights perform better than other companies, and that our science and technology is more advanced than theirs, it builds a place for our company in the market place. By also providing the HID comparison grows, we do what no other MFR has done yet: seek the independent results showing the true equivalency values for our lights in the hands of some damn good growers
To my knowledge Blynx has received his 126W and should be starting a journal within the coming weeks. Likewise you'll see several more journals popping up left and right giving everyone what they've been wanting to see all along
GreenThumbBumb
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Looks good.
MeanBean
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Guess I'm going to have to keep trying to find someone who wants to do a 180W vs 205W side by side
Irishboy, your not interested?
overmyhead
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great job!
WizeWizo
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Guess I'm going to have to keep trying to find someone who wants to do a 180W vs 205W side by side
If I were in your boots right now, then I would feel that this is pointless as the 126w older version greatly outperformed the 180w. Just my two cents...
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no i am not. done with the side x sides
I thought you were supposed to beat a lying dog when it's down lol? You are right though, we have a test going against LumiGrow next!
Im confused a little still. I like both lights a lot but when I go to each website they say these lights will equal 400w+ of hps. I dont understand, can someone explain this a little. I am very interested in LED and just want to understand a little better. That 205w light looks awesome but what is something reasonable I could expect to yield with it?
Actually ProSource claims their 180W to be equivalent to a 600W HPS. We state our 126W will provide comparable results to a 400W HPS. Our 126W has near identical PAR wattage to a 400W HPS, which is how we determined the equivalency for our lights. Obviously doing a soil grow with no CO2, no training, etc... where one plant hogs all the light, is not going to give you the best results with our product. We've had results as high as 1.8 grams per watt, and as low as .71 grams per watt with our lights. Depending on what type of gardener you are, and how much experience you have, will determine how much yield you could possibly create.
Our 205W model in the hands of someone trying to get maximum yield, should have no problems surpassing the 1 gram per watt mark for just about anyone. So based on those figures, 200 grams and up is achievable with a single 205W.
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