Leafblowers

[Sheriff Bart]

2nd hand smoke hypothesis?
are you saying you dont think 2nd hand smoke has the ability to cause cancer?
2nd hand smoke has carcinogens like any smoke
it will cause probs if exposed to much!

i personally dont think cigs should be made as they are evil and totally ****ed up but i love tobacco and i dont think people shouldnt be able to smoke, they just shouldnt be retarded and smoke cigarettes. i grow and roll my own with tobacco too! although tobacco is much easier...it not being illegal and all.


but i get what you are saying, but you can always go ask them to do it at a different time or something, but before you expect them to do anything for ya you gotta give a bit too. a 12-pack or so might be enough motivation...


but then again the leaves fall for a reason, and where they fall is where they should be and this big obsession with picking them up and taking away the earths food is retarded....didnt you know some worms wanted to eat those leaves? or some mushrooms...or an animal wanted to make its home with them....leave the leaves
but really leafblowers arent that loud....and it wont be terribly much longer until the snow blowers come out, so no need to get your undies in a bunch just yet....

 

[gruvygreen]

Put another window on the inside of your current window with a rubber strip around it. Mine seems to cut out about 75% of the leaf blower sound. Cost me about $40 for the plexiglass and 1 cm thick peice of rubber. Not perfect, but pretty cheap. I can talk on the phone with the leaf blower dude right outside my window.

 

[marx2k]

I think leafblowers should be more regulated. I would love for them to be banned sure, but I'm not sure they would be.

But especially in neighborhoods.

I think neighborhoods should come together and have a certain day when landscaping companies can work on the site. That way, you only have one day out of the week where you'll hear the dreadful leafblowers...

The rest of the week would be peaceful.

Or...maybe we just need to invent technology that literally stops the vibrations. We can go to the moon but we can't stop cars and engines from making noise?

I feel the same way regarding lawn mowers. Loud, polluting, and pretty pointless. I don't understand America's obsession with making every square foot of grass they own look like a golf course

 

[marx2k]

If the sounds from leafblowers are annoying, then might as well ban city plows during the winter too! I mean, they go by at like 5:30, so that when I go to work I can drive safely. Wakes me up it's so loud! Shakes my place a bit too. The nerve of the city to do that when important me is trying to sleep! Oh wait.....it's for my own benefit so I and everyone can get to work safe and easier. I get it.

lol Sometimes ya just gotta deal with it dude. If I want to do something on my property at say 9:30 a.m and you may be sleeping, I'm supposed to know this? And not do something I'm fully allowed to do, on my own property, that I paid for?

I don't think my neighbor blowing leaves off of his lawn and roof is a public service, though.

 

[marx2k]

Today you are actually ASKING 'them' to regulate things for you. How about when you're forced into debt, because the law now says unless you have a nicely paved driveway, you lose your house, so you have to put it on the CC... All because the other neighbors decided that they have the right not to look at a shabby driveway, and got a new ordinance approved.

I dunno about you guys, but I aint giving up any more personal freedoms without a fight. Today it is a leafblower, tomorrow a driveway, and pretty soon they'll be checking to see if our rooms are clean before we're allowed to go out to play. What's next? Mandating and then inspecting the fiber content of my shits? Keep giving up your rights, and asking for the Gov't to save us from ourselves, and see what happens...
Huff

My neighbor complains to the city about every ordinance she can find wrong with my house/yard. She called the city because I have a corner of my back yards with weeds growing in it. She called the city because the grass was over X inches, she called the city because (no joke) the bushes lining my lawn cast too much shade on her side of the lawn.

This is what old people with no husband and no kids do to entertain themselves, I guess.

 

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

as long as the parks dept. picks up early , then i will have to us my leaf blower early, plain and simple. i work nights , so whoever has to hear mine in the morning will just have to hear it. but this isnt a complaint in my area, most things are dictated when the pick ups are normally scheduled (trash, recyclables, lawn/leaf ) are guys are out there nice and early, with their leaf blowers willing to help out if you dont have one for yourself. oh yeah and the ticket aspect for an unkempt lawn (hey bin a city kid all my life, first home, its new to me too!)

if you dont have a front yard then you wouldnt understand. but lets see, hmm. ... your ears early in the morning or a ticket for my yard? hmmm. its so hard to ....oh wait, who gets the ticket? oh yeah, yeah, i think ill go with saving my neighbors ears and pay the ticket. . . .

 

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

I don't think my neighbor blowing leaves off of his lawn and roof is a public service, though.

when that crap has the choice to blow off of your place and onto mine after i just cleaned my spot? . . oh yeah buddy, you better know its a public service. cant say anything against a man/woman tryin to keep their lil plot o' space tidy. you can do whatever you want . . . . as long as its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over on your plot o' land pal, not mine. or you can just listen to me use my leaf blower to get your crap off of my spot, hows that?

AND BTW, THIS IS NOT A "POKE" AT marx2k BUT TO ANYONE WHO MAY FEEL THIS WAY ABOUT IT BEING A PUBLIC SERVICE. ITS A NEIGHBORHOOD. A COLLECTIVE OF PEOPLE, SO LETS TRY TO GET ALONG.

 

[HuffAndPuff]

Um blunt, either you or I are confused here. Marx was referring to Karma's comment about snowplows being noisy, but we tolerate them... In that light, YOU, blowing YOUR leaves off YOUR lawn, is in no way a public service to me if I don't give a shit about leaves in MY lawn. ie: Don't pick em up on my account, I like me some compost for the earth.

You might could say I am doing the yard-nazis a disservice by not picking up mine, though- they could very easily wind up in their yards <hint,hint>. As far as my real opinion goes, I respect your right to keep a clean yard as you should my right not to. Although apparently this may not be a right. I mean, I grew up all over, but lived in the 'burbs for a minute, and I have always had a yard, and I never first-hand saw this ordinance stuff. I thought they only pulled that shit out when it was a bunch of honkey-ass crackers trying to vote the one black family (that almost made it!) off the island. Unreal.

Who the fcuk are these tattletale-ing adults? Kill yourselves. It'd be a much better use of your obviously ample spare time.

HuffAndPuff

 

[newbgrow]

That depends on if there's a housing association running your neighborhood. If you didn't want to be regulated, don't live in the suburbs. Duh! Usually those leaf-blowers in suburbia are done through a paid public service throughout the entire neighborhood, on everyone's lawns and sidewalks. In these places, you could well be held responsible for not taking care of your lawn, as it devalues the neighborhood properties if it doesn't look tidy and clean. Imagine you want to sell your house, but you have to give a 10% discount because your neighbor makes the view from your house look like shit...

Anyways, it's a choice. I like an apartment myself on some levels. Let the management worry about this kind of stuff...

 

[marx2k]

when that crap has the choice to blow off of your place and onto mine after i just cleaned my spot? . . oh yeah buddy, you better know its a public service. cant say anything against a man/woman tryin to keep their lil plot o' space tidy. you can do whatever you want . . . . as long as its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over on your plot o' land pal, not mine. or you can just listen to me use my leaf blower to get your crap off of my spot, hows that?

The reply was to KharmaGirl who posted :

If the sounds from leafblowers are annoying, then might as well ban city plows during the winter too! I mean, they go by at like 5:30, so that when I go to work I can drive safely. Wakes me up it's so loud! Shakes my place a bit too. The nerve of the city to do that when important me is trying to sleep! Oh wait.....it's for my own benefit so I and everyone can get to work safe and easier. I get it.

lol Sometimes ya just gotta deal with it dude. If I want to do something on my property at say 9:30 a.m and you may be sleeping, I'm supposed to know this? And not do something I'm fully allowed to do, on my own property, that I paid for?

You took it out of context. But I still don't get how my neighbor tidying up his or her yard with a polluting device is a public service. If that person did it for everyone's yard, I can see that. But that's not the case. As far as me doing stuff WAAAAAAAYYY on my side of the plot, I do. But I also am considerate of other people so I do it oldschool. With a rake. Remember those? Oh, and my lawn mower doesn't make any noise either. I know... modern technology.

AND BTW, THIS IS NOT A "POKE" AT marx2k BUT TO ANYONE WHO MAY FEEL THIS WAY ABOUT IT BEING A PUBLIC SERVICE. ITS A NEIGHBORHOOD. A COLLECTIVE OF PEOPLE, SO LETS TRY TO GET ALONG.

In this neighborhood, as in many others, there is no community. It's a bunch of rich old people who bought a house and now treat it like it's Fort Knox and make sure to have the picture perfect image for everyone else. 2 SUVs in the driveway, perfect lawn, perfect shrubs, perfect flowers... of course, none of these people talk to one another and no one even walks around outside unless it's to mow the lawn or blow some leaves. Your neighborhood might be a collective, but this neighborhood, everyone's out for themselves.

Oh, but they remember to wave as I bike by. How nice of them... fake motherf...

 

[marx2k]

That depends on if there's a housing association running your neighborhood. If you didn't want to be regulated, don't live in the suburbs. Duh! Usually those leaf-blowers in suburbia are done through a paid public service throughout the entire neighborhood, on everyone's lawns and sidewalks. In these places, you could well be held responsible for not taking care of your lawn, as it devalues the neighborhood properties if it doesn't look tidy and clean. Imagine you want to sell your house, but you have to give a 10% discount because your neighbor makes the view from your house look like shit...

Anyways, it's a choice. I like an apartment myself on some levels. Let the management worry about this kind of stuff...

That's exactly why my neighbor keeps calling the city on me. Because in her mind, my grass being taller than 4 or 5 inches is devaluing her house. I'm not selling this house, but if someone wouldn't buy it because the NEIGHBOR'S grass was taller than 5", I'd laugh them off of my driveway.

 

[Stoner4Life]

move to the country w/o the neighbors who'd bother you. the city that you live in most likely has noise ordinances that your neighbors comply with & workers have a right to earn as well. go to the drug store & buy some ear plugs for a quick fix if you need to sleep or crank up the tunes & drown the offending noise out....... living in the burbs & complaining about yard work noise reminds me of someone who buys a house near the airport and then just bitches about the noise as if it were a new problem. And guess what???

your complaints are gonna fall on deaf ears....... hehehehehe

the argument is not about doing something on your own property since you paid for it.

if u want to manufacture speed on your own property well...
nevermind bad example !

the point is, noise does not just exist on your own property..it travels far.. and gets into the psyche of people all around.

Its intrusive, more than other things there are.

 

[Blackvelvet]

When I was working for a landscape company, the muffler came off the only working blower we had that day. We were forced to use it. All I can say is people were pissed.

 

[EatCannabisRaw]

marx i feel for you... nothing worse than that neighborhood you describe. thats shit.

i just don't understand why people need leafblowers. we are addicted to them. it all boils down to outsourcing any type of physical work.

so get off your lazy asses and rake!!!

do it!!!!!

 

[Guest]

Im with the others who don't understand why you want the goverment to INCREASE regulations.........

If you want to avoid the noise, move to the country. By living in the city or suburbs or whatever, you're kinda agreeing to follow the rules of the city, and that usually means keeping your yard clean.

to the comment about just leaving the leaves on the ground because its good for the worms:

yea....in a perfect eco-friendly world. Howver, whenever i've only been able to get half the leaves raked up (yea, i rake my leaves.........its quiet and doesn't waste resources) because of early snow or it didn't get cold quick enough for all to fall off, there's always a nasty wet layer of leaves on my yard in the spring that i then have to clean up. Hope you're aware leaves don't decompose and go to the earth overnight. It usually takes at least a year, and thats if they're buried in a nice compost pile.
Not sure why you would encourage growers who are homeowners to leave a messy yard anyway and just let it grow and go to crap....
I'm pretty sure thats a sign cops and narcs look for when spotting grow houses.

There ARE regulations in many places for excessive noise, etc. However, I can't see turning people in for it.

I've had neighbors (only for about a year til they got kicked out of their house thankfully..) that would let their kids drive in circles around their yard, tearing it up and creating embankments, just revving those 2 stroke motors all day, no lie, probably 8am-7pm with breaks.........these people liked their lil dirtbikes and were booored or soemthing. Those things were such an annoyance, but i think karma dictates not to rat out someone else for something thats really not hurting anyone in any real way unless you like being ratted out too.

Its like the people who insist every single growhouse puts out toxic chemicals that are evil for the neighborhood so they go around scouting for them and narcing people out.

9:30 is NOT too early to do yard work. 7am............yes, probably too early if in a densely populated area......


I think too many people have issues with making everyone else's business their own.....

 

[EatCannabisRaw]

hold up..

people lived in suburbs
and cleaned leaves

before leaf blowers were invented.

it DOES become my business when your noise is blaring inside of my head...
noise is a real psychological stressor... even if you are not conscious of it your stress hormone levels rise..
personally my digestion literally stops dead if i hear noises like that...and i can't eat anymore.
its just not fair...

imagine this:

you are eating a very nice meal with friends

i'm bill, your neighbor from 5 houses down that u don't even know.

i barge on into your house uninvited, going right through your door...and proceed to stand next to you while you eat and make annoying noises..

i don't move...not for at least 30 minutes.

 

[EatCannabisRaw]

and Irish...the studies on noise show that yes

that noise from the people WERE REALLY HURTING YOU IN A REAL WAY.

its actual crazy. the human organism responds to noise like a real stress.
google that stuff...it will open your mind to it.

 

[Guest]

..........i punch bill in the face/balls and proceed to call the cops and say he attacked me within my house and i had to defend myself............

i do see your point though eatrawcannnabis.

i think what im sayin is that there are just some things in life you either have to deal with or get away from cause all bitching does is create more rules we have to work our lives around.

have you tried talking topeople in your neighborhood and asking them to not use leafblowers in the morning?

you could always be extrememly proactive.......

1. pick up a 12 pack
2. give to neighbor
3. ask if yo ucan rake up his/her leaves and transport off site so they won't have to use any leafblowers
4. take back to your own yard and start a massive compost pile (which your neighbors will later complain about due to the stench and you'll either make nice with local reulatory authorities or you'll get a lil fine)
5. do it all again next year.


you'll accomplish 4 things......

1. help the environment
2. stop the noise
3. make people forget the numbers of local landscapers (if you do it for a few years)
4. put some extra money in the local coffers

edit:
eatraw:
hope we can keep this just a discussion and not start flaming each other. I know my tone in posts can be a lil inciteful sometimes though i don't mean it to be.

i do think you have a valid point. I just also believe there's another side to it.

I've read some things about excessive noise not only creating stress issues (some people are more prone than others anyway) but also disrupting balance if the cochlia or cilia are damaged in the ear and possibly causing long term organ damage at a slow pace by essentially using the same technique a doctor uses to break up a kidney stone with ultrasonic vibrations

 

[Paco]

I know in the state of colorado gas powered blowers are banned... but... anyone with a comerical gardener licsence can purchase and use one. a very odd law considering that it is not regulated at all, meaning that any one can buy one as long as you say you are using it for your buisiness. totally ****ing weird.
paco

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Complain to the city you live in about the noise ordinance violations. If you have no noise ordinance in your city, do your best to get one instituted. Use the gov't for what it's there for people.

Don't come on a website and bitch about it because noone can do anything about it for you. You may actaully have to take the bull by the horns and do something about it yourself.