Lazyman's 16KW Headbanger

[Lazyman]

Lookin' stellar in there, LM

I'm gonna go vert lights one day. It just seems that you're using the lights so much more efficiently that way.

Congrats on the new rugrat additions

Peace,

SSM

So far I have no complaints, as long as you remember your sunglasses it's dandy. The biggest downside is you can't aircool the vert lights very easily, but it could be done if you realllly wanted to. I think I'd do watercooled light fixtures if I was gonna go through the hassle of running all the ducting instead.

Thanks for stoppin in, and yeah aren't they cute? It's amazing how agile they are just hours after birth, none of that clumsy/slow movement you see in other critters.

 

[mahalo]

Lamps (bulbs)

Lamps (bulbs)

Once I have AC I'll try doing a NON-staggered lighting array too (probably half HPS and half MH) with all 16 lights blazing at once, just to see what difference it makes in the final yield.

Hi Lazyman, great thread and thanks for posting the links to other great threads.

I'm interested in what Make and model lamps your using and whether you think these designer lamps (dual arc, CMH and such) have any value to increase yield and quality?

 

[Lazyman]

Thanks Mahalo!

Using Ushio HPS 1KW bulbs only for the moment, when bulb swap time rolls around in a few months I'll probably swap half for MH and continue with the HPS for the other half.

Dual arc bulbs are ridiculously expensive, and put out more heat than light. For $225 you get 90-100K lumens, which is on par with a good 1KW MH bulb. I think it's much more efficient energy-wise to use a MH and HPS in staggered patterns so plants get a mix of both.

CMH, since they only come in 400W at the moment I have never used one, but since they throw out more UVB lighting I'm looking forward to the day they have a 1KW version.

I'm currently thinking about adding some 40W UVB T-5's over each "ring" of plants in my room, but honestly it will probably be later in the year (after air conditioning and CO2 are implemented.) I'm even considering adding another row of 1KW lights to flower, and thinking about swapping my veg T-5's for either 400W CMH or 1000W halides. We'll see how things look after the first couple crops come in.

 

[Raphael]

Just read through your thread again lazyman you totally are killing it this year.
Do you have to do any maintenance on the blumats when you harvest one plant and then put the blumat into another pot? Like soak them or clean them or recalibrate them? Or does keeping the same density and size pot enable you to just treat them exactly like a dripper? Curious as to how long each blumat lasts before needing to be replaced.

Everything looks sweet my friend your patients must be some of the happiest around so irie

 

[Lazyman]

Hehe thanks man, my goal is to grow 120# this year, I've got about ten down, 110 to go!

Nope no maintenance on the Blumats, i pull it out of one pot and shove it into another. As long as you don't let them sit too long (under an hour) they don't dry out. I make sure my new girls are transplanted and ready to move in before I move the older girls out though, just to be safe.

No maintenance on them yet, I've heard organic nutes in particular can build up some crud on the end of the dripline, but I haven't had that problem with the AN sensi nutes. I also think the H&G Drip Clean helps too.

 

[Lazyman]

Went and calibrated all 5 meters again, one of the Hannas is 2 weeks old and won't calibrate PPM's. Returned another one yesterday that wouldn't calibrate either. Pieces of shit. Never paying for another one. That's 3 out of 4 returned within 5 weeks of use.

All is well, just misting the 3 trays of clones, each sitting on a heat mat on one of those new digital thermostat controls. One 2' fluoro overhead 24X7, rooting in Oasis (so I can till them into the garden, unlike rockwool.)

All is well and cooking, buds on the PMN getting fatter by the day. Might have to throw a fan on one of the old CAN150's if the smell gets any stronger, and it will once I have 1 set at 4 weeks and one at 8.

 

[Vincent Vega]

Sweet grow man!

 

[Lazyman]

Gracias! Happy Cinco de Mayo everybody!

 

[stillsmokin843]

Lazy your killin it so much room to play with great job as usual keep setting the mark so high and your gona end up with hell gods know what keep on jammin bro good luck

 

[Lazyman]

Thanks SS! If I get really ambitious I might be able to squeeze 24KW in there, but I'd have to pour a bunch of concrete. Ugh, that would suck for the existing RH levels.

Found some good big-ass dehueys on CL last night, one 140 pint for $600 and one 240 pint for 1000, might have to go grab one of those. Check your local listings for Drizair, Santa Fe or Phoenix dehueys if you're in the market for big units.

 

[Spl1fftast1ck]

Damn Lazy, you sure do get a lot done for being "lazy".

My .02, Your show is like Broadway, well lit, great actors, top of the line effects and props, comfortable seating, temps and humidity are very comfy, hell you even throw in a little comic relief .... sneak in my own popcorn and I will be here for a while. Thanks for putting it on.

---Spliff

 

[Lazyman]

Hehe thanks a ton buddy, that really means a lot to me! Yeah the whole Lazy thing is kind of a joke, I can't sit still for 30 seconds and typically am working on one thing or another 16 hours a day every day.

My wife is gonna start callin me lumpy, you should see the bumps on my noggin. Ha! A couple years growing in there and my IQ will drop 20 points, just you watch the decline, lol

Yep temps are stable at 75-77*F, RH at 50%, lots of air movement all around. Got a nice high workbench built for the trimmers, the fridge is stocked with drinks, just need some tunes and some more chairs!

Damn I can't wait for CO2, it's gonna be SO nuts in there.

 

[Peat]

the whole Lazy thing is kind of a joke,

I just don't know what to say...

I thought I'd found someone who TRULY ... understood ...

TEASE!

 

[stillsmokin843]

Lol I can bring my ipod and a few chairs. Yea adding concreate to an existin grow would spike the r/o. Have to pump it in prob you could always put up a barrier and vent the new area seperate while its drying or like ya said throw some bigger dueys out there. Man your doing an awesome job there bro. So do you like those ballest more than lumitec pros & cons? Keep up the awesome shows thanks

 

[Lazyman]

Yep it would be to cover a 6'X24' area that has a dirt floor now, I walled it off with foam board and tekfoil so it isn't part of the room anymore.

So I bought the Quantums because my trusty hydro shop told me they get LOTS of Lumatek returns, and hardly any Quantums back. So far I haven't had one problem with them, but I know lots of Lumatek guys have. So that's all I know, I haven't used Luma's myself but I'm glad I haven't after seeing all the threads on dead ones here.

 

[Wasabi420]

hey lazy your really cookin as always! I've got a question if you dont mind. What do you think the maximum size rez would be for 1 doser/fertigator/automated PH Nute/ whatever you call it? (I want to hook up 4 4'x4' ebb and flow tables to 1 rez)

 

[Lazyman]

Hey Wasabi, I assume you mean for running the Blumats?

If you're running a reservoir, a 55 gallon will last you roughly 5 days before it empties (or in my case, is completely exchanged with top offs) You could use up to a 115 to extend that ( I used a 115G on 4 4x4's myself in my 8kw) but they're trickier to elevate. A tall stack of pallets would work though.

If you're doing ebb and flood, a 115g is needed for sure, and you can only flood one pair of trays at a time. Use 4 pumps (one per tray) and 2 timers, staggered.

So an inline fertigator won't be necessary with a res, they're only needed if NOT running a res at all.

 

[L-Immortal]

Ok Lazyman help me iron this out, I took this post below from a few pages back. Gonna try to break it down for my system with your help of course.

I'm gonna hook up 40 ladies all running off my 100 gallon rez and the girls are in 3.5 and 5 gallon buckets



Parts needed:

• 40 Blumat drippers (or should I do 2 per container) in that case 80 blumats?
• Barrels plumbed with a 3/4" barbed outlet (suggested amount)
• 3/4" regular black poly hose from hydro shop (suggested amount)
• 30 meter packages of 3mm Blumat dripper tubing (suggested amount)
• black nylon 3/32" plastic barbed tees (suggested amount)

Im sure this is close but we may need to tweak slightly.
How many blumats are you comfortable running of of each line? We can base the "suggested amount" on a 40 system blumat setup and I can base any upgrades on that number. Actually that’s about it for now

Hey Peat, thanks for stoppin in man!

Yep I didn't use a kit, my Blumat setup consists of:

Barrels plumbed with a 3/4" barbed outlet (with a shutoff valve, natch)
3/4" regular black poly hose from hydro shop (run hot water through it for a few min and it will lay flat) the hose runs the length of the room.
Shutoff valve on the "far end" then tees in to a drain line to my drain bucket setup.
The BLumat valves were ordered for $5 each from my local hydro shop (via tradewinds distributing in Sacramento CA>)
Also ordered from the same place several 30 meter packages of 3mm Blumat dripper tubing (no you can NOT use anything else!) for $40 each.
To connect the drip lines to the 3/4" manifold I ordered a bunch of black nylon 3/32" plastic barbed tees from Kentsystems.com for $.22 each.
Connect two lengths of tubing and Blumats to each tee
THen drill a 3/32" hole into the manifold and pop the tee in.

Piece of cake! Kinda works like a low pressure microdrip system. Plumbing in the Blumats takes about an hour per 50 valves, not hard at all. Just make sure they are filled with water and soaked overnight prior to use, and water the plant heavily before inserting. Do not let them dry out or they will need to be reactivated by filling and soaking again.

 

[Lazyman]

Ok Lazyman help me iron this out, I took this post below from a few pages back. Gonna try to break it down for my system with your help of course.

I'm gonna hook up 40 ladies all running off my 100 gallon rez and the girls are in 3.5 and 5 gallon buckets



Parts needed:

• 40 Blumat drippers (or should I do 2 per container) in that case 80 blumats?
• Barrels plumbed with a 3/4" barbed outlet (suggested amount)
• 3/4" regular black poly hose from hydro shop (suggested amount)
• 30 meter packages of 3mm Blumat dripper tubing (suggested amount)
• black nylon 3/32" plastic barbed tees (suggested amount)

Im sure this is close but we may need to tweak slightly.
How many blumats are you comfortable running of of each line? We can base the "suggested amount" on a 40 system blumat setup and I can base any upgrades on that number. Actually that’s about it for now

Good list buddy, you've been paying attention! For pots that big I think you'd be happier with the coverage of two blumats per pot, but it does add significant expense so if you need to do one for now you should be fine.

Call Kentsystems.com, their website sucks but the sell the tees you need. I usually put just two valves on one tee. On the manifold/hose you can put as many as you like, I have about 30 on a 30' 3/4" hose and could easily triple that. When I drill a hole in a "pressurized" hose it shoots water up about 18". I would just make sure you have extra tees, blumats and extra 3mm line, in case you need to ad more later those parts are the hardest to get your hands on.

I started with 150 BLumats and am up to about 175 now, also used up about half my tees and 150 meters of 3mm tubing, but I like the long dripper hoses, makes pot placement very easy and flexible.

If you want I'm sure you could run 1/2" manifold lines instead of 3/4", I'm just a big fan of overkill, lol

 

[Lazyman]

BTW if you need amounts:

* 40 Blumat drippers (or should I do 2 per container) in that case 80 blumats?
* Barrels plumbed with a 3/4" barbed outlet (1 barb per barrel just for outlet.)
* 3/4" regular black poly hose from hydro shop (Whatever length to run all the way across the flower room. I added a 3/4" inline shutoff to both ends, and the far end runs off to a drain line,so I only need one hose to drain the reservoir AND feed the girls.)
* 30 meter packages of 3mm Blumat dripper tubing (I like about 3 feet per pot, so in your case that's 120 feet, or about 1.5 packages of tubing)
* black nylon 3/32" plastic barbed tees (at least 20 tees, I'd get extra though. They're cheap)