Laos Luang Prabang

[Gemüse]

Laos

Laos

This Thread made me feel nostalgic with all the good links and Pictures! Laos is a great Country to visit but nasty Party tourists in Van Vieng drinkin beer Towers and huge Bomb polluted fields at Phonsavan area made us feel sad and angry many times. Drugs of any Kind are widely available in some Areas i guess thats why theres a Party every night. People are generally very interested and Kind. Some Analogue Pictures:

Luang Prabang Mekong

Vientiane

Van Vieng amazing Landscape and good climbing

Ace Luang Prabang Greenhouse

Gruß gemüse

 

[Mr. Roseberry]

Hi SpaceBros,

The Laotian and Thai stick stock released in 2010 as limited editions came from Gypsy and were only available at our website for a short time. We have been busy with other projects so the strain has not been reproduced in the last years.

Here are some pics of my last trip to Laos. I liked a lot the sceneries, people and cannabis culture of this country.

Vang Vieng

Can you tell us any more about the Lao Sativa, growing tips,*hermaphrodite*frequencies, crop uniformity etc apart from what's already on the strain description.

Also, have you all thought about trying to source anymore pure SE Asian landraces?

Mr. Roseberry

 

[dubi]

Hi Gemüse,

Thanks for sharing pics of your trip to Laos, i also miss the country

The drunk/rave parties in Vang Vieng's river were stopped a few years ago, the tourism now is much more diverse and is not so oriented to this kind of dangerous party in the water, lots of young tourists died drowned in the water and the authorities banned the river bars.

You still can find all what you want in the village, but now everything is much more discreet.

 

[RoyalFlush]

Any smoke reports on this strain?... Would like to know what kind of high this gives compared to other thai's.

 

[dubi]

Hi RoyalFlush,

I think i posted previously my experience about laotian sativas in my last trip to the country:

"Had the pleasure to experience the mind blowing weed from Savannakhet, southern Laos, it has a very complex and long lasting mental effect that becomes opium like after 2-3 hours. Very strong.

And the sativas from northern Laos too, grown in the mountains by the Hmong: dark color type of weed, has an energetic and paranoid type of high, with a hazy spicy woody taste.

Lovely country, lovely people, amazing landscapes, great weed!

Overall i found the laotians sativas different to the thais i have grown in the past (and i have tried a few ones), although nowadays most of the weed available in north Thailand comes from Laos, as it is cheaper and less dangerous to produce it in Laos.

Hopefully we can offer some lao genetics again in the future."

 

[inquest]

There's quite a bit of variety in this lot from Gypsy.

In short, I ordered and planted a 20 pack.
16 sprouted and none culled.
2 hermaphrodites.
1 male.
Structure and vigor was pretty varied.
Color, taste, potency, and effect were fairly uniform.
Little aroma but what was there was citrusy.

Potency: 4/10
Effect: clear head/no body followed by lethargy.

The stand outs:
#20 was 5 foot tall in a half gallon of soil.
#16 was a hermie with a crazy psychedelic high.

 

[SpaceBros.]

There's quite a bit of variety in this lot from Gypsy.

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In short, I ordered and planted a 20 pack.
16 sprouted and none culled.
2 hermaphrodites.
1 male.
Structure and vigor was pretty varied.
Color, taste, potency, and effect were fairly uniform.
Little aroma but what was there was citrusy.

Potency: 4/10
Effect: clear head/no body followed by lethargy.

The stand outs:
#20 was 5 foot tall in a half gallon of soil.
#16 was a hermie with a crazy psychedelic high.

Nice pics and thanks for sharing inquest! Shame about the low overall potency. I have a pack of these that I'm still yet to pop. Another grower mentioned a similar thing where the hermie was the most potent with the Lao. How would you rate #16 potency wise?

I've always had a hunch that hermies in general are more potent than pure females.

 

[dubi]

There's quite a bit of variety in this lot from Gypsy.

In short, I ordered and planted a 20 pack.
16 sprouted and none culled.
2 hermaphrodites.
1 male.
Structure and vigor was pretty varied.
Color, taste, potency, and effect were fairly uniform.
Little aroma but what was there was citrusy.

Potency: 4/10
Effect: clear head/no body followed by lethargy.

The stand outs:
#20 was 5 foot tall in a half gallon of soil.
#16 was a hermie with a crazy psychedelic high.

Hi inquest,

I'm sorry to hear that your experience with Gypsy's laotian was not completly satisfying. All the SE asian lines that Gypsy brought needed heavy selection. They were quite variable, for sure there are interesting phenos to be found, but there were also lot of mediocre plants and hermies. That's why we decided not to keep working with them in favor of other sativas.

But also keep in mind that first generation extreme tropical sativas like these are not adapted to indoor growing and artificial lights, and they usually don't develop their real potency and quality when they are finished indoors, it takes lot of time and generations to find the tropical sativa expressions that works best indoors.

There are amazing sativas in Laos (indeed i prefer them lately over the thais), and i hope to work with more laotians in the future when i have the chance/time.

Best regards

 

[dubi]

I've always had a hunch that hermies in general are more potent than pure females.

Hi SpaceBros,

I have heard this statement several times from different people, but i disagree, there's no relationship (as far as i know) between the genes that induce hermaphroditism in cannabis and the genes that control the potency and quality.

It's just my opinion, maybe i'm wrong, but i don't think is a statement that can be generalized.

 

[inquest]

Those Lao plants were highly variable for sure! I wasn't too disappointed in them. Well... maybe that the plant with the most memorable high was also a full on hermi and wouldn't reveg. That was a disappointment.

I've actually got a Lao cross going now! LP#20/Malawi X Lebanese (feminized). These girls gots vigor!! I'm pretty anxious to see what comes from 'em.

 

[SpaceBros.]

Hi SpaceBros,

I have heard this statement several times from different people, but i disagree, there's no relationship (as far as i know) between the genes that induce hermaphroditism in cannabis and the genes that control the potency and quality.

It's just my opinion, maybe i'm wrong, but i don't think is a statement that can be generalized.

Definitely wrong of me to generalize. In certain instances hermies can be more potent than their single sexed counterparts.

Those Lao plants were highly variable for sure! I wasn't too disappointed in them. Well... maybe that the plant with the most memorable high was also a full on hermi and wouldn't reveg. That was a disappointment.

I've actually got a Lao cross going now! LP#20/Malawi X Lebanese (feminized). These girls gots vigor!! I'm pretty anxious to see what comes from 'em.

OK maybe I will pop mine next season then. I only have 7 so not much to make a selection from. Hopefully I can hit the jackpot and find a good male and female to play with

 

[inquest]

Mine were mostly female. I wouldn't pop them until you're ready to hit them with STS, just incase you get all girls. Do make seeds and preserve them, though!

 

[hard rain]

Hi RoyalFlush,

I think i posted previously my experience about laotian sativas in my last trip to the country:

"Had the pleasure to experience the mind blowing weed from Savannakhet, southern Laos, it has a very complex and long lasting mental effect that becomes opium like after 2-3 hours. Very strong.

And the sativas from northern Laos too, grown in the mountains by the Hmong: dark color type of weed, has an energetic and paranoid type of high, with a hazy spicy woody taste.

Lovely country, lovely people, amazing landscapes, great weed!

Overall i found the laotians sativas different to the thais i have grown in the past (and i have tried a few ones), although nowadays most of the weed available in north Thailand comes from Laos, as it is cheaper and less dangerous to produce it in Laos.

Hopefully we can offer some lao genetics again in the future."

Hi, my experience of the Lao Luang Prabang high is slightly different to yours. I experienced no paranoia, only euphoria and an uplifting take off of mood. Also surprising strong hash taste! Thanks for the pics, brought back memories. Lovely place and people.

I have bought and grown the gypsy/ace Luang Prabang. I bought 10 seeds, put 5 in water, only 1 sprouted. Female. It has been growing for a year. It starts to flower and seems to finish but then seems to reveg and starts to flower all over again. Flowers are really whispy and calyx's are tiny. Never finish lao. So far the stuff I have smoked has been very lemon taste, but week. 3/10 unfortunately. Not much like the Luang Prabang I've had, however I am only reviewing one plant.

 

[dubi]

Hi hard rain,

I also miss a lot Laos, probably the friendliest place i've been in SE Asia.
I'm glad the pics bring nice memories, they also make me smile when i see them

There must be different lines being grown there in Laos so our experiences about the effect of their sativas could differ ...
but anyway they were all damn good, tasty and potent. Much better than the average quality that can be found in Thailand nowadays.

I think is very hard to replicate the quality of these tropical sativa indoors, especially if you are growing P1 tropical landraces, rarely the finished product reachs the quality of the outdoor tropical weed where the seeds came from.
It takes lot of time and efforts to tame these kind of tropical sativas so they can be grown indoors and produce a comparable quality.

 

[hard rain]

Hi hard rain,

I also miss a lot Laos, probably the friendliest place i've been in SE Asia.
I'm glad the pics bring nice memories, they also make me smile when i see them

There must be different lines being grown there in Laos so our experiences about the effect of their sativas could differ ...
but anyway they were all damn good, tasty and potent. Much better than the average quality that can be found in Thailand nowadays.

I think is very hard to replicate the quality of these tropical sativa indoors, especially if you are growing P1 tropical landraces, rarely the finished product reachs the quality of the outdoor tropical weed where the seeds came from.
It takes lot of time and efforts to tame these kind of tropical sativas so they can be grown indoors and produce a comparable quality.

I agree about Laos. Beautiful country and people. I am planning on returning soon.

It is hard growing sativa's indoors although I have managed. I'm very patient and will wait half a year for something to finish. I haven't totally given up on the Lao. The high I had in Luang Prabang is certainly worth hunting for. I actually live in a sub tropical climate in Australia so I may consider putting a couple of clones out in the bush and seeing if she does better there. I also have 5 more seeds to pop but no room at the moment.

 

[SpaceBros.]

I have bought and grown the gypsy/ace Luang Prabang. I bought 10 seeds, put 5 in water, only 1 sprouted. Female. It has been growing for a year. It starts to flower and seems to finish but then seems to reveg and starts to flower all over again. Flowers are really whispy and calyx's are tiny. Never finish lao. So far the stuff I have smoked has been very lemon taste, but week. 3/10 unfortunately. Not much like the Luang Prabang I've had, however I am only reviewing one plant.

So what kind of set-up were you using (lighting, photo-period medium, nutrients, pot size etc)? And the quality of the albeit weak high - euphoric, happy, sense elevating?

We'd all love to see some pictures if you're comfortable sharing.

Thanks,

SB

 

[hard rain]

So what kind of set-up were you using (lighting, photo-period medium, nutrients, pot size etc)? And the quality of the albeit weak high - euphoric, happy, sense elevating?

We'd all love to see some pictures if you're comfortable sharing.

Thanks,

SB

I started the Lao ages ago. Grew it initially under a 400 HPS. It seemed to flower ok but then rather than finish it suddenly sprouted from the airy buds like it was reveging. This was under 11.5 hours light 12.5 dark. As I have other things growing I didn't want to reduce the light period anymore. The plant later got moved to a tent under a mars2 700 Led. This slowed the stretch and it again happily flowered but after a while it again re-veged adn stretched. I still have it growing and may put up a pic. I'm about to go away for the weekend but will try and put something up next week. Pot size I'm not sure but maybe about 18" (45cm) diameter and same height. This is an indoor grow, all organic.

Growing with the Lao i have a Jack Herer and Kali mist, both of which are doing fine and nearly finished. I've also grown the thai stick sativa which finished ok. I've recently added Malawi and it is going great. Fairly sure it's not my growing skills. I have been growing for nearly 40 years (with a break for of a decade in the middle)

I did harvest some of the lower buds and have cured them probably for over 9 months. I break some of them out periodically to try. Tastes of lemon and grass. Nice taste but it irritated my throat a bit. There is some euphoria but not anything close to what i had in Laos unfortunately.

 

[scai]

I have few seeds that my friend Morfeus brought from Laos.Their growing habit looked very much the same as Ace's.It is very productive sativa that takes long to mature, but heads are nice!
Spindly, takes lot time to mature, good crop
And when you talk about it, it looks like I need to revive my old stock this summer.

 

[farmerlion]

I have never tried any Asian herb's myself. Talking to many Vietnam vets over the years. Almost all get around to the marijuana they smoked at some time in their stories. None have stated it was the strongest, just that it was smoked all day at times. The act of passing the pipe or joint has always been my favorite part of smoking in the first place. Maybe that's why back in the day I went through 3/4oz. a day. The Attitude has some of Ace's Laos lang but the last 3 times I tried to buy from them it wouldn't go through. I plan on only buying from Ace now anyway, It's all good. Peace

 

[Dr.King]

I have never tried any Asian herb's myself. Talking to many Vietnam vets over the years. Almost all get around to the marijuana they smoked at some time in their stories. None have stated it was the strongest, just that it was smoked all day at times. The act of passing the pipe or joint has always been my favorite part of smoking in the first place. Maybe that's why back in the day I went through 3/4oz. a day. The Attitude has some of Ace's Laos lang but the last 3 times I tried to buy from them it wouldn't go through. I plan on only buying from Ace now anyway, It's all good. Peace

I would also but I can also vouch for Attitude, Single Seed Center and Herbies. Always had great customer service with these and if anything went wrong they fixed it in a orderly fashion way. Although not nearly as good as freebies as Ace gives out. Ace no longer sells Laos which is why I bought like 40 before they where all gone just like the Thai Stick and Double Thai. Probably never will be release again. I needed to get em some how .