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Lady Gaga: "I Smoke a Lot of Pot"

VerdantGreen

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but why blindly defend her db?

couldnt speak for db but in my case i am calling bullshit on those people who cant distinguish between their own musical taste and whether someone is talented or not. also the idea she is completely 'manufactured' when she writes her own lyrics and music - which sells millions, is clearly wrong. some posters have been caught out by their own generalizations and made to look foolish here.

VG
 

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Did you take offense cause i used some thing you said as an example?


The gist of what I got from you is that you can't keep your daughter from being exposed to the world. (It's hard to read because you responded inside a quote, and now I'd have to go through a bunch of work to seperate what you wrote from what you were quoting and then quote THAT and respond to it. If you wanna fix your post I'll go back point-by-point.)


I know that. So your job as a parent is to provide a background and an understanding of the world that takes into account the world as it actually is (as opposed to what you think it should be,) and then teach her what you would want her to understand about these things. That way when she is exposed to it at Taco Bell (which you don't have to feed her, btw) she will have a context with which to understand it.

And I'm not angry, homie. Just having a discussion.

Peace!
 
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darkhorse

Here's an artist who sells lots of records, wins awards and say's she smokes lots of pot on national TV. But she's eclectic so let's make sure we defend the boundaries. But since she's talking weed and not necessarily her career, which boundary do we defend, prohibition?

Who cares whether she's liked or disliked as a singer, musician, songwriter, producer, sound engineer... (I could go on.) The op is every bit as much or more about LG (the weed smoker) as anything else.

Instead of pushing boundaries on others, learn self respect whether you have followers or not. Your opinion is great but your boundaries aren't necessarily shared.


thank you for the respectfull reply,

but you can grow a plant in a toilet bowl and it looks beautiful artist can also put a turd in a bowl and call it "art"
we have the ability to discern good and bad but now everything seems to be in the grey area and ready to be flushed down the pan.
 

lost in a sea

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lots of talented people as you say. talented people like lady gaga who can write original songs with a commercial edge are much fewer and further between. its quite a rare thing.

VG


how can anyone prove she has any part in her image or music??

we read it in the media,, the same media that promoted her from the start,,,

i will agree that not many people would have her image,, that is very comm(ie)ercial,,

she was many many years in the making and planning,,
 

DiscoBiscuit

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but why blindly defend her db?

because she said she smokes weed ??

wierd

It's not blind defense, it's suggesting you not take your own opinion so seriously. Like it or not, that's what the op is about, an artist that smokes lots of pot. But since she's an artist, your opinion of whether you likey is cool. Beating the drum, not so much.

it also says it has another voice it its head,, a male voice that talks to higher spirits,, do you believe that ?
Do I believe everything you think and say? Does it matter? I might think you're overboard for comparing nazi whatever. But suggesting you have nothing of interest to contribute is a stretch. Same with LG, she's a popular celeb that advocates pot. I consider it a win whether I listen to her music or not.

Everybody's weird, weird's relative. Who gives a flip whether her personal beliefs mirror what others think is appropriate. Get a grip on yourself before you analyze others.
 

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couldnt speak for db but in my case i am calling bullshit on those people who cant distinguish between their own musical taste and whether someone is talented or not.

Exactly my point.

Thank you for stating it so well.

I am not a FAN of lady gaga.

I do not want to BANG lady gaga.

But I can see that she is talented.

If you can't, you don't know what talent means or you haven't looked very carefully at her.
 

lost in a sea

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even if some people may dislike weed through association with her db?

or dont you think that is possible ??

talent is subjective so no one ever has to say or concede that anyone or thing is talented.
 
YEAH RIGHT she's a talentless whore/freak period influencing children and people who obviously have no way to recognnize when someone is actually talented and when someone reresents a messed up industry already that made her their messed up poster child because of her messed up morals it's what she reresents. Oh and she smokes she set us pot heads and grows back twenty years if you ask me. She doesn't bring any kinda good light to weed she's the new american amy winehouse.
 

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how can anyone prove she has any part in her image or music??

we read it in the media,, the same media that promoted her from the start,,,

i will agree that not many people would have her image,, that is very comm(ie)ercial,,

she was many many years in the making and planning,,

look at the songwriting credits - you think some 'invisible' person is passing up the publishing royalties for a platinum song? - no way.

also i was part of the music industry 'till a couple of years ago, so i know.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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even if some people may dislike weed through association with her db?

or dont you think that is possible ??

So you associate your musical interests with your preferable reform advocates? That is weird.

talent is subjective so no one ever has to say or concede that anyone or thing is talented.

Then edit your previous posts, just kidding.

Sorry, your personal opinion on LG's musical ability has nothing to do with the fact she smokes lots of weed. And your personal opinion is sort of watery when you consider her popularity.
 

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how can anyone prove she has any part in her image or music??

You can find many videos on youtube with a quick search that show her playing the piano and singing without any accompaniment nor autotune.

That part cannot be faked no matter how much money you throw at it.

It's called Talent.

It is something you are born with, or you earn from practicing.

You can't buy it.

That doesn't mean you will like it or have to buy it or think she's pretty.
(Or a good influence.)
 

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Hey,you guys here the news?Lady GaGa smokes weed!!If ya say the G's like ya gotta little puke in ya mouth its fun,try it!Im still sayin Marylin Mason in drag and about half as talented!!:artist:
 

DiscoBiscuit

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LG basically declares she's a bit weird but she's honest declaring she's not a product of the industry. She was an entertainer in her own right and national acclaim found her. What part of "Born This Way" do peeps not understand?
 

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she wasnt born that way though!!

she only started acting like that once they had figured out her image!

she was groomed for years and years
 

ROJO145

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LG basically declares she's a bit weird but she's honest declaring she's not a product of the industry. She was an entertainer in her own right and national acclaim found her. What part of "Born This Way" do peeps not understand?

Exactly,she tried to sing ,but def jam records dropped her so she went touring with lollopolooza as a sex freak act until she smoked some rappers pole and they gave her a break,all in a matter of 5 or six years.....I guess thats talent:blowbubbles:
 
even if the stupid bi**h writes her own music it IS NOT TALENT have you truly listened to the lyrics of her music? my 12 year old cousin could write just as well. She went platinum because of stupid ass parents letting their children carry her. She's like any everyday boy band she has a folllowing because of children. How is she any different from a Britney spears or a Nsync, Her music is mostly beats and some scattered badly written lyrics. if anything she puts a bad light on pot because people who already looked down on us i can almost guarantee they now really look down on us. No offense but do you really want to be in same category as Lady Gaga- i sure dont.
 

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she wasnt born that way though!!

she only started acting like that once they had figured out her image!

she was groomed for years and years

def jam signed her on the strength of the profile she already had as a performer and songwriter. that was long before her commercial success.
 

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Exactly,she tried to sing ,but def jam records dropped her so she went touring with lollopolooza as a sex freak act until she smoked some rappers pole and they gave her a break,all in a matter of 5 or six years.....I guess thats talent:blowbubbles:
no. The talent part is that she got the deal and a record came out.

A thousand girls "smoke some rappers pole" every night of the week. Most of them do not get to be multimillionaires.

You don't like her. We get it. I don't particularly like her either.

That has nothing to do with whether she is talented or not.

Get over it!
 

DiscoBiscuit

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IMO, the "talent" argument is pretty moot. Bruce Willis and the Arnold are arguably suck actors. But they're conventional looking and make violent movies. If either advocated smoking lots of pot, how many (male) posters would dissect their shtick?

All you "conventionals" are about as interesting as your first post. After that, not so much.
 
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