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CosmicCharlie
Member
When I lived in VA I had Rifat clones.
Killed them one winter, Kratom really hates the cold.
They were like 3 foot tall bushes when they died.
Part of why I moved from VA, the climate sucks (amongst many other things)...
Killed them one winter, Kratom really hates the cold.
They were like 3 foot tall bushes when they died.
Part of why I moved from VA, the climate sucks (amongst many other things)...
CannaRed
Cannabinerd
Ahh. That's why you thought I was outting your location. I was just talking about my home state.
Yes. I hate the grow weather here. Last couple seasons were rough. And no matter what I do, all my outdoor looks like shit after drying. It's just a fraction of the quality of my indoor grown.
Wifey thinking of getting a tent for a kratom bush. It would have to be bonsai style.
Anybody SCROG out a kratom tree?
MedFaced
Active member
I watched a video from a dude’s greenhouse on YouTube. He keeps em small. Says it’s easy. Just trims the roots periodically to prevent them from becoming root bound. Like literally pulls them from the planters, hacks the roots down to the healthy ball, and then repots them. His garden looked great.
Green Squall
Well-known member
I'm taking a tolerance break from kratom. Even on a small dose, its doing the opposite or what it should be and making me extremely tired. Someone said this can happen after long term use (6 months) when the alkaloids build up in your system. Has anyone else experienced this?
It is about a year and a half. One thing I learned is everyone's idea of a 'small dose' matches no one else's idea of a small dose.
I take .7 grams at a time. The first few months varied, a couple times a whole tablespoon (10 grams) was used but that usually meant nap time. A quarter teaspoon is my normal dose, up to three times a day for a couple days at a time. I replaced a coffee habit with Kratom so my motivation may not be the norm. Reaching 7 cups of coffee per day was affecting my heart, Kratom causes less rapid heart rate increase and stresses it less.
I hear of doses in the tree and four tablespoon range and wonder if my reaction is outside of normal or is it these larger dosages that have more to the story?
Green Squall
Well-known member
Sounds like we were taking roughly the same dose, except differently. I was at about 2.3 grams daily, but all at once during lunch. I definitely think "less is more" with this substance and when I start again after a tolerance break, its not going to be everyday.
Fred Sanford
Member
I use 2 grams per day in .5g doses 4x throughout the day. We're all 3 almost the same daily amount.
CosmicCharlie
Member
Larger dosage are more Opioid like (sedating, itchy).
This is because Mitragynine is a delta Opioid Agonist at first that eventually crosses over to Mu Agonism in larger doses.
Delta effects are more stimulating while Mu is the classic Opiate/Opioid feel.
Be careful with Kratom and large dosing all the time - withdrawals can get just as bad as other Opiates/Opioids if you let it.
This is because Mitragynine is a delta Opioid Agonist at first that eventually crosses over to Mu Agonism in larger doses.
Delta effects are more stimulating while Mu is the classic Opiate/Opioid feel.
Be careful with Kratom and large dosing all the time - withdrawals can get just as bad as other Opiates/Opioids if you let it.
I was taking 2-4 teaspoons per day for a year and a half, I built a tolerance, even though taking three different kinds. It was affecting me a little, so 8 days ago I stopped. I had some withdrawal symptoms, but drank some beer smoked alot of weed, and took nightol to sleep
I do miss how it made me feel for the first 6 months. I was very optomistic and happy Ill probably wait some months before trying some more. I think it is good to take a break
I do miss how it made me feel for the first 6 months. I was very optomistic and happy Ill probably wait some months before trying some more. I think it is good to take a break
Gee, I could not be bothered to read any posts either. I just assumed all 21 previous pages in this thread were all by folks wondering about the experience.
We may never find out if this keeps up.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
Thank you thank you [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]D3pthCharg3. reeeeeAs a friend of Bill W myself with 20 years within 2 months from now I had wanted to try kratom for the pain I live with and was afraid of that possible connection. Your post possibly saved me from that. Thank you !
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Green Squall
Well-known member
No way in hell should anyone here click on your sketchy link.
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Green Squall
Well-known member
I quit my daily kratom use at the beginning of this year and now try to limit it to 2 days a week, or whenever I need pain relief. My tolerance was at the point where it wasn't affecting me anymore and I didn't want to raise the dose. I feel less is more with this plant, so I've never gone over 3 grams. Might sound like a small amount, but it works for me.
