Kooki's diary(K2 T44 DG BB)enviro/cfl

[kooki]

nice pics Truth, and great info on the temps.
I did read somewhere that temps at root level being low 60's helps with purpling?

Ive done some searches on here and seedbanks, seems there are more purple strains than i thought there would be, and some i didnt expect , like Top44 u show there.. This is my first go with the Top44 so shall cross fingers that i get a fem this time round ,if not i shall def get another few germed n potted soon..
The colour in the 3rd pic is great, can def see a nice red colour, which again i wouldnt mind, i am on the look for some colour to buds red purple etc sounds good to me.
The only part i think i shld read some more n consider is that temp thing, wld i get away with high 60's low 70's plant level with low 60's at root level and such..
Also i have some female seeds being given me by a good mate, but theyre meant for outdoors but as i said i was after purple colour buds he said he got some purple power.. might be a challenge?

 

[Truth]

hmm, I don't know about just root level, I allow my entire plant to feel the coolness. If doing hydro, or even soil for that matter, you would want the temps to be in the low to mid 60's at rootzone anyways, this helps in transpiration, temperatures lower at the root level than the canopy always help in better faster growth since water moves from areas of high concentration to areas of low concentration, temp differences allow you to create a good difference, thereby making it easier for transpiration (and in hydro, the water can contain much more oxygen at these temps). It turned reddish colored from the temps being in the mid 60's, but It took about 57F for them to purple up nicely. Of course, you can initiate low temps at any time to cause purpling, 2 weeks before harvest at latest I would say just to be sure it purples up nicely. Cold temps slow growth a tad bit, so that is an option that is best done near the end of flowering. and as I said previously, some just don't purple much at all until the end of flowering anyways. if the free seeds you are getting from a friend are meant for outdoors, it doesn't necessarily mean they won't do well indoors. is it a tall lanky sativa? have you seen pictures of the mother? LST should keep things in order. A picture of the mother or at least a description from your friend should give you a good idea of what you will be dealing with.

 

[kooki]

well i just had look at preflowers on the T44 and both look male,
that would make 1 female outta 6 so far this year, great huh. grrr..
well i shall leave them in the flower room, and watch them develop(ive had some before not show hairs for ages) so fingers crossed that these just dont want to show sex properly yet, another week in 12/12 and the really shld be showing quite clear while right now they arent.

Just had another looksee, and one preflower is showing possible hair(wish i cld take photo but my cam skills n camera are pretty naff, also this plant has a tri branch on it also(odd as its the only part of plant doing that) and when i say hair i mean one i dont see a pair as yet guess ive not grown enough varieties to be sure yet, females with their hairs on preflowers are so easy to spot when they got hairs lol, and obvious males with a stick with ball like pod on end easy also, i cant see a stick under these but they look kinda irregular also, makes me think male, now i see a hair im wondering so all i can do is wait some more.. shldnt hurt having them in there for some more time

 

[kooki]

here is pic of the tri branch on the top44... look bottom centre, u can see the 3 fans? and the grow tip also 3 fans. This branch started bi with just two fans, then went tri tri tri ooer... on the right of it u can see a normal bi branch. This is the only branch on the plant thats doing this , the rest is pretty normal.

 

[kooki]

Its weekly update/pic time , starting with whats in veg today, and flowering tommorrow.
First up is the doublegum, they had a repot and strings added this week and both are responding well to the training. No signs of sex on these yet, but i live in hope lol. At 4week old now, i plan on giving more time in veg, till sex shows, then cull n place in flower if i get a fem. (the usual)

 

[kooki]

Next up is the bagseed blueberry still in original pots, (used larger starters than others) and they getting ready to repot at some point near future, but holding off due to space(sigh lol) at 3weeks now, they show some crispy edges on lower leaves, but in general are ok. lookin to start some training on these also soon.

 

[kooki]

Been busy busy, just been checkin the doublegums and one is female the other not sure yet but im leaning towards that also being female, but shall see.. i shall put up pics later of the K2 in flower and the one remaining Top44( a check before lights off confirmed that one was male, and the other that i took a tri branch off is looking female, several preflowers are now pushin out hairs, took their sweet time lol, will keep an eye tho just in case any hermi tendancy) the Top44 needs a repot ,to give more space for the roots in flower and is staying really compact n small, so is interesting to see how fast it flowers, and how it develops. Back later with photos

 

[kooki]

Hello all
First up is the top44 , repotted this one, showing its preflower hairs now 1 week into the flower period. Its not stretching much yet, staying still quite compact, photo is after repot before i add string again to spread it out a little, will be trying to get some training done on this plant through the stretch period.

 

[kooki]

And here is the K2. At its week 4(28day) mark. Just starting to hair up at those budsites now, had a little more stretch to tie down during the week and i see some sativa influence in this plant, so thinking this cld go 9 or even 10 weeks ,we shall see remember this is sitting under just a 125w enviro, and never used the enviro before so interested to see how it fairs compared to 6x20w cfl that ive grown plants under before.
Cant wait to see the buds starting to fill up more, i am not expecting much more penetration from this bub than normal but think it might manage a touch more than the lower watt cfl's i used before, but like i said we will see

 

[kooki]

Time for my weekly update...
First up is the blueberry bagseed yum yum , well as it happens one has shown its dangling balls so i whacked it on the head and its gone. The other is showing a female preflower(i believe anyhow will keep an eye) and i have started training on it, still in original pot, a few days loose training n then i shall repot when total certain that its fem but so far lookin good This is its 4week

 

[kooki]

Next up is the Doublegum at 5week.
The smallest shown itself female and i have been training this to fill the pot, which i feel is going well, its staying quite short n compact too, different to the mom i have saved elsewhere, this pheno is showing a good compact form, and will enjoy watching this one progress.

 

[kooki]

The second Doublegum hasnt yet shown any hairs but has starting of preflowers.. still showing more female in shape without the hairs and considering the Top44 recent took ages to push out its hairs im not getting rid yet, give it time from today in the 12/12 flower room and soon i am sure it will show its true self .... fingers crossed for me folks would be nice to get 2 fem DG after getting 2 male afghan earlier in this years grow time.. 5 week also for this one, its larger than the other, more like the mom i have saved , these are from seeds not clones of course so might show some differences as it flowers we shall see..


PS i shall update the Top44 and K2 when lights on later or tomorrow
And on another note, a gift of 5 female seeds purple power are in my hands im quite keen to grow some colour, and hopefully can pull off a grow of these indoors, might even later in year consider doing a seed grow , crossing a high indica strain with these, and then can have fun sometime seeing what types the seeds grow ( need to do my research as ive never done a seed grow/breeding type grow before) any tips suggestions comments appreciated and welcome folks. Dont be shy

 

[kooki]

Flower room update..
First the top44, this is stretched to fill the pot a little, and is hairing up now , its looking to be quite a short and compact plant, and hoping for indica goodness come the end of flowering Its just reached its 2week mark, and as the name suggests cld be anywhere from 6 to 8 weeks(they say 44 cos cld finish in 44 days ,we shall see lol)

 

[kooki]

And next up is the K2, now reached 5 week.
This is slowly building its buds, the leaves look sativa like tho not massively long, they are thin and there is some space between nodes, that and the slow bud building makes me believe either , this gonna take a long flower period or the light isnt up to the job lol, its only 125 enviro, so i lst to take that into account, so i hoping its just its sativa leanings needing a longer flower periods and it will pack weight on in the following weeks. By all accounts this is a 8/9 week strain, maybe its gonna take longer. Also trich's are becoming more visible without magnification now, and hoping to see those build up some more too, either way its a good test of the light and of a strain i havent grown before.. here's hoping this ends up a sweet plant

 

[kooki]

Holdin back on starting the female purple power, as soon as i know sex of the 2nd DG i will know how much space i got.
If male i gonna have space in veg as the shown female DG shall enter the flower box and if female then gonna wait a few weeks before starting,giving time for it and the K2 and top44 to get well into flower periods, and stretch over on the top44(i dont see it stretching much at all so far so feel i will have space for the femDG in a few weeks regardless of the other one being fem)
planning on giving the blueberry bagseed more time in veg to train it up and a repot soon, tho the roots dont show bound yet , so far so good
Cant wait to grow some purple buds

 

[GMT]

lmao, sorry kooki, didnt notice the link in your sig to the thread. Gonna go and read it all, after eating, back in a bit, just singing in so I can find my way back for now.

 

[kooki]

GMT , hya thanks for stopping by, any criticism tips suggestions etc etc welcome.. u may see i lst, due to the cfl lights, beyond that i dont go too technical with things, as my knowledge is still quite simple hehe

heres a close up of the tri branch that is left on the top44 shot from earlier post, u can see on earlier post the normal formed branches and on this close up i have numbered the fans(just to show the tri structure), didnt notice this branch when i removed the first tri branch i found, due to the plants compact structure and this branch being smaller at the time and hid under fans(i try not to cut fans off my plant prefer tie ntuck with them(thanks to Kov for showing me light with that one)
Its meant to be a fast flowerer and already at the 2 week mark it was hairing up at the budsites.


And currently the DG in the veg room(is female and preflowering) this has also a tri branch, it isnt yet alternating phylo, and is clear to have 3 fans on its branch. The growth from the nodes of this branch are still small and appear to be just 2 fans tho, so a tri growing branch with bi growing nodes?? might need to wait to see them grow a little to be sure.. hope pics clear enough for peeps to see. (cheap cam and shaky hand, a good pic dont make)

 

[GMT]

wow, kooki, just finished reading up. You're doing a great job with those cfls. One quick question about them, when you list their watts, is that the equivalent or the actual? Well held off on chopping those T44's until you actually knew rather than suspected the sex. I made a wrong call earlier this month, and chopped 90% of a tri female down, only to keep a tri branch for pollen lol. Congrats on your twin tri branches, and glad they are girls for you. What's the plan, keep one as a clone and flower the other on the plant for smoke or clone them both for later breeding games?
I like the perpetual type of techniques too, waiting to sex before planting the next round to determine space, good call.
Well, that's me signed onto this thread, can't get rid of me now lol.

 

[kooki]

Hey GMT thanks for the kind words.
The bulbs are listed as actual watts used.. the equivelent ratings are rather silly i find, they say eq to 100watt incandescent for the 20 watters and 150w for the 30 watters and the 125watt enviro is sommat like 600watt equivelent. I believe they simply mean to our human eyes, and not to be related to growing really at all, as the 125 enviro certainly wouldnt stand up next to a 600watt hps lol..

As for the tri branches.. i think i shall also clone the DGum branch, and have one from each DG and T44 saved up for a project. And watch the other tri branch on the top44 as it flowers, flowering has started now with it and it being a fast flowering strain i would like to see how it turns out, to have an idea of how the clones future might go..

Ive got some fem seeds the Purple power ones i want to grow, and not wanting to give them a poor light early in life holding off starting them till i resolve space in veg again, wasnt sad to throw the BB bagseed out as the other is showing its femaleness it was poor for its age of growth and i cld prob pull it back, but that would delay me doing some purple also lol so the decision was made.. and it will be a few weeks at least before the cuttings get roots proper to be potted etc, and by that time i should be in better position to decide what to do. Or have already done sommat lol
As for project with the clones i really would like to try making some seed, but fancy doing it safely , as other things will be in flower room at same time probably, thinking of taking clone of the clone to flower for seed, and remotely pollinating them, maybe a week out of the main flower box to get pollinated , and then cleaned of pollen to be put back in the flower box(working on some temp box to achieve that with) but as i say i never made seeds before.. and want some control over how its done rather than just let them get it on so to speak ok im rambling loads now, but those are my kinda plan n thoughts.. shall be reading some of those links in your thread for info on the trait thing wether i can get offspring to carry it etc..
take it easy

 

[GMT]

hmm, if you took a clone of the clone to seed, what would you then do with the original clone?