Koo Koo for Coco Pot
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haha what up purcellville.. i'm just admiring all the great coco threads going.. you guys seem to have really healthy plants even tho most of the feeding regimens are still kind of being tested and modified which is really impressive compared to the soil guys imo.
great thread keep up the good gardening!
great thread keep up the good gardening!
Bulls, and speedy thanks for stopping by. After two different grows I am settling into this coco thing and it is working very nicely.
Yo purcellville 
glad to hear you are getting the coco down pat,
because, coco is where it's at.
glad to hear you are getting the coco down pat,
because, coco is where it's at.
Cb, Rio, Gaius.... Thanks all for stopping bye. I forgot to mention. I do use the rhizo with the growth nutes during the stretch, but stop after that. I am thinking about the canazyme and trying that as well.
Whats everyone's thoughts on Rhizo, should I be using more of it? Canazyme experience?
Whats everyone's thoughts on Rhizo, should I be using more of it? Canazyme experience?
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My friend sprays rhizo on the plants all the way up to bud forms.
He uses cannazym almost thru it all. Don't now if it's right but he has had great results (until the cops stormed the place last week, but they timed it lousy, 10 pots with seeds that just popped above ground).
I'm gonna try Hesi's stuff on a new grow in a week.
He uses cannazym almost thru it all. Don't now if it's right but he has had great results (until the cops stormed the place last week, but they timed it lousy, 10 pots with seeds that just popped above ground).
I'm gonna try Hesi's stuff on a new grow in a week.
yeah you can give rhizotonic at half a ml per litter all the way up to week 4 or 5 of 12/12. but you can also stop it at week 2 or 3 if you want to. all it does is keep the roots that little bit extra healthy. but after all the stuff is alive and will continue in the coco even without you adding rhizo. same with the cannazym, you can give it every other tank filling and it will still be there doing it's thing. tome there is a difference if plants are grown from seed or clone, seed plants don't need much encouragement to make great roots systems. clones on the other hand can use the help of products like rhizotonic and zym. but either way, it's not essential, only beneficial, lol.
if you have slabs and roots gowing out under the slabs and growing into the rills of the table, then the rhizo will help keep those roots looking healthy and white too.
if you have slabs and roots gowing out under the slabs and growing into the rills of the table, then the rhizo will help keep those roots looking healthy and white too.
Sounds like I may use the zyme with the veg and recycled coco, and keep the routine about the same. I agree clones can use all the help they can get.
No slabs here, but 3 gallon pots. I veg the hell out of them in coco cubes, then block the cubes on a 1/2 gallon pot, then when they are a solid 10 nodes, and large ass 7 or more blade fans I throw them in the 3 gallon pots, and flip the switch. They stall out for a few days while I feed em rhizo and 600ppm of veg nutes. Then they just explode with like 1-2 inches of new bright green growth.
No slabs here, but 3 gallon pots. I veg the hell out of them in coco cubes, then block the cubes on a 1/2 gallon pot, then when they are a solid 10 nodes, and large ass 7 or more blade fans I throw them in the 3 gallon pots, and flip the switch. They stall out for a few days while I feed em rhizo and 600ppm of veg nutes. Then they just explode with like 1-2 inches of new bright green growth.
Lookin' good purcerville! That Metro has some fat leaves...never heard of Metro...gonna go search, and read on it after this post...looks good 
(all your plants are lookin' great by the way :smile
I need to germ my Dreamweavers....been seeing some good grows with it....
-Do you use those cocotek cubes by GH? What size cubes? I can't decide if I'll start out vegging in coco pots or those cubes....I want my transplants to be nice and neat....
-do those cubes dry out fast???
-Could I veg to 24" in those cubes you think?
Thanks for all the feedback bro...this is a great show
(all your plants are lookin' great by the way :smile I need to germ my Dreamweavers....been seeing some good grows with it....-Do you use those cocotek cubes by GH? What size cubes? I can't decide if I'll start out vegging in coco pots or those cubes....I want my transplants to be nice and neat....
-do those cubes dry out fast???
-Could I veg to 24" in those cubes you think?
Thanks for all the feedback bro...this is a great show
Metro was a trade with a buddy who got it from Texas Kid, if I remember correctly it is a Trainwreck x blue satellite hybrid. I have one male as well and might have to make some beans. I also got a few beans of one called commrade from TK as well. I think that one is a white russian x some other russian. might have to pop those soon.
Here are the cubes I am using http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=375
I like em a lot. I use the oasis cubes for cuttings and then plug them into the cubes. I can get a good amount of veg out of the cubes pending I keep them wet. I have been having such good luck with hand watering I have yet to hook up drippers or even flood the 2x2 table I use for vegging. After I veg them out a few weeks in the cubes I move them on top of the 1/2 gallon pots and really let em rip.
I am working on the new theory of what I call kinetic / pent up energy. I really like to push the shit out of the stage it is in. If I wait on the oasis cubes to have a lot of roots they grow bigger and faster in the cube. I wait till the cube is absolutely busting out with roots and reaching all over the bottom of the tray. Then I move them to the 1/2 gallon pot and let them go until they roots are again busting out on to the tray. Once they get bound up in the 1/2 gallon I let them go and go as the nodes seem to get thick and the fan leaves just explode in size. I wait until the 1/2 gallon pot is so root bound that it drinks a liter of water and is bone dry at the end of the day. Then I put them in the 3 gallons for flower.
It seems to really pay off with extra cube step and allowing the roots to explode. I have been working this out for 4-5 months and my first flowers running this system in coco is about 2-4 weeks from finishing up.
Here are the cubes I am using http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=375
I like em a lot. I use the oasis cubes for cuttings and then plug them into the cubes. I can get a good amount of veg out of the cubes pending I keep them wet. I have been having such good luck with hand watering I have yet to hook up drippers or even flood the 2x2 table I use for vegging. After I veg them out a few weeks in the cubes I move them on top of the 1/2 gallon pots and really let em rip.
I am working on the new theory of what I call kinetic / pent up energy. I really like to push the shit out of the stage it is in. If I wait on the oasis cubes to have a lot of roots they grow bigger and faster in the cube. I wait till the cube is absolutely busting out with roots and reaching all over the bottom of the tray. Then I move them to the 1/2 gallon pot and let them go until they roots are again busting out on to the tray. Once they get bound up in the 1/2 gallon I let them go and go as the nodes seem to get thick and the fan leaves just explode in size. I wait until the 1/2 gallon pot is so root bound that it drinks a liter of water and is bone dry at the end of the day. Then I put them in the 3 gallons for flower.
It seems to really pay off with extra cube step and allowing the roots to explode. I have been working this out for 4-5 months and my first flowers running this system in coco is about 2-4 weeks from finishing up.
Thanks for the quick reply....I like your kinetic/pent up energy theory....I'm gonna try this too...I've been mostly planting in the containers they'll bloom in....I'll be using 3g buckets for bloom as well....
Oh...and thanks for the link....I saw some coco plugs there also....I may order some of those and try 'em....
Oh...and thanks for the link....I saw some coco plugs there also....I may order some of those and try 'em....
I have had absolutley no success with the coco plugs.. Caveat emptor...
I would love to hear you results with little experiment. Just think about how much more room you have for rooting and growth if you veg em like crazy before giving them the 3 gallon pot. I can tell you 3-4 weeks into flower you see roots busting to get out of the 3 gallon pots.
I would love to hear you results with little experiment. Just think about how much more room you have for rooting and growth if you veg em like crazy before giving them the 3 gallon pot. I can tell you 3-4 weeks into flower you see roots busting to get out of the 3 gallon pots.
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that is very sound gardening sense purcellville, i do the same with my rooting stage, i wait till every plant i need for the table, has roots sticking out the bottom of the cube. this makes for a much smother transition, instead of transplant shock i get a transplant surge of explosive growth.
Thanks for validating this. I have really been playing with a number of things, flower as soon as I see roots and grow in smaller pots, a little veg and then flower, and now this whole thing I am doing.
I can say I get a huge surge in structural growth when I veg this way, it has been a clear win/win for my flowers as it clearly trasnlaters to bigger stronger buds.
I can say I get a huge surge in structural growth when I veg this way, it has been a clear win/win for my flowers as it clearly trasnlaters to bigger stronger buds.
well I moved things around for a bit of head space and brought the KA and ICE out for a phot shoot.
Here is the Killer Apollo
Here is the ICE and a HUGE macro, this should explain the Frosting...
Here is the Killer Apollo
Here is the ICE and a HUGE macro, this should explain the Frosting...
I'd like your opinion....input
I'd like your opinion....input
I'll let ya know...I have a Trainwreck in a 1g bag...she's got 9 fingers and over 16" tall...and branching....but still the roots are not busting out the holes in the bag...
I wanted your opinion on something:
Do you think that 100% coco is better for this kinetic technique? I ask because I have noticed that coco/perlite root mass is not as prolific as the plants I've had in pure coco (I have started small plants in pure coco...then transplanted to coco/perlite)...the pure coco transplants always feature prolific root growth....moreso than coco/perlite....
I like the structure of the Killer Apollo They are extremely healthy too! 
Thanks for helping me out....
I'd like your opinion....input
Thanks for the warning...purcellville said:
I'll let ya know...I have a Trainwreck in a 1g bag...she's got 9 fingers and over 16" tall...and branching....but still the roots are not busting out the holes in the bag...
I wanted your opinion on something:
Do you think that 100% coco is better for this kinetic technique? I ask because I have noticed that coco/perlite root mass is not as prolific as the plants I've had in pure coco (I have started small plants in pure coco...then transplanted to coco/perlite)...the pure coco transplants always feature prolific root growth....moreso than coco/perlite....
I like the structure of the Killer Apollo
They are extremely healthy too! Thanks for helping me out....
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The roots don't start busting out for a weeks in flower, it also seems to be affected by how moist the bottom of your coco is, as they will air-prune themselves very quickly. I have to look closely to see mass of roots that die back in the air.
As for the kinetic/coco things... I wish I could say, but alas I only have a few grows under me and just kind of stumbled on to this technique. I kind of adapted it from my failed rockwool experiments. Exeprimentation is the key to success. The one thing I have learned is to not take anyone in these forums so seriously, and give things a try.
As for the kinetic/coco things... I wish I could say, but alas I only have a few grows under me and just kind of stumbled on to this technique. I kind of adapted it from my failed rockwool experiments. Exeprimentation is the key to success. The one thing I have learned is to not take anyone in these forums so seriously, and give things a try.
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lookin good, purcellville!
lookin good, purcellville!
I know absolutely nothing about growing in coco...but I do know about happy, healthy pot plants...and that's what you've got there, bro.
I grew out Tex's Metro last year. It's my understanding that it's Trainwreck x Texas Resin Company's "Blue 13". The 2 ladies I got had slight differences from each other, but both had that outstanding Trainwreck smell and taste
Really nice! I'm kickin myself for not keeping a clone. They also produced some nice sized tops.
Happy growing to ya, purce.
Stay safe, and keep em green.
cc
lookin good, purcellville!
I know absolutely nothing about growing in coco...but I do know about happy, healthy pot plants...and that's what you've got there, bro.
I grew out Tex's Metro last year. It's my understanding that it's Trainwreck x Texas Resin Company's "Blue 13". The 2 ladies I got had slight differences from each other, but both had that outstanding Trainwreck smell and taste
Really nice! I'm kickin myself for not keeping a clone. They also produced some nice sized tops.
Happy growing to ya, purce.
Stay safe, and keep em green.
cc
