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Knats that live IN the soil>?

DJ Dibble

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Ok I have some pest. They are not attacking the leaves or plant but seem to be thriving underneath the very top layer of my soil. They live in the dirt. What are these and how do i get them to leave?
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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They are called fungus gnats. If you do a search on them you'll get lots of results. Reducing the moiture level on the top of your soil will be helpfull, and the best idea I've heard, but not tried it yet, is something called diatomacious earth or something similar. Get it from garden shops, and spread it on top of the soil, the gnats dont like it for some reason but its non soluble so you wont end up smoking it either.
 

sproutco

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Fungus gnat larvae

Fungus gnat larvae



You can use mosquito control that contains bacillus from like Lowes or Homedepot. Sometimes they sell mosquito dunks in the pond section.

Gnatrol is a product specifically intended for this that also cotains the bacillus bacteria.

Bacillus bacteria are non toxic to humans and pets.

Avoid overwatering.
 
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imnotcrazy

There is ALWAYS meaning to my madness ®
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^^^^ Good advice. I got the Mosquito Dunks on the advice of MTF-Sandman and they worked wonders. They are also safe to use throughout the grow.
 

mybeans420

resident slackass
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GMT said:
They are called fungus gnats. If you do a search on them you'll get lots of results. Reducing the moiture level on the top of your soil will be helpfull, and the best idea I've heard, but not tried it yet, is something called diatomacious earth or something similar. Get it from garden shops, and spread it on top of the soil, the gnats dont like it for some reason but its non soluble so you wont end up smoking it either.

diatomaceous earth is highly abrasive and wil cut they soft bodies of insect causing them to dessicate... (dry out)
effective on many pests that are soil born for any part of thier life cycle but doesnt really eliminate them completely as there are always tough cookies in there that manage to survive. For bio control it's better used in conjunction with something like the above mentioned baccilus or predator nematodes.

Peace
Beans
 

jaykush

dirty black hands
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yup, the eggs in the soil will suffocate, the ones in the air will die in a few days to a week after there life cycle is over. no more gnats :)
 

mybeans420

resident slackass
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yeah, thats one way too go but can get a little messy depending on how you water. I tried it a couple years ago and just found applying BT much easier but if it works for ya and you dont have to recover the soil every time you water go for it.

Given the choice though, I'd choose BT every time.

Peace
Beans
 

jaykush

dirty black hands
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nope as long as its not super chunky its got to be semi fine. you could put it in the oven for a little bit to get all the bad stuff out if you go find some somewhere like the beach for example.
 

mybeans420

resident slackass
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jaykush said:
nope as long as its not super chunky its got to be semi fine. you could put it in the oven for a little bit to get all the bad stuff out if you go find some somewhere like the beach for example.

I would be careful with beach sand, it can be salty.
play sand for sandboxes is an excellent option.
 

jaykush

dirty black hands
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yea i guess, never used beach sand. it was the first thing to come to my mind, i get mine from the mountains after the stream gets low in some spots. and still this isnt a complicated thing you just use sand. you don't even have to leave it there once the infestation is gone.

on a side note a healthy soil will keep itself from getting infested. check out the organic fanatic collective for any info you might need.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=36542&page=1&pp=40
 

Pops

Resident pissy old man
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I read some post where a couple inches of perlite on top of the soil is supposed to keep them from laying their eggs in the soil. They feed on the organic compost in the soil. I use orange sticky traps to attract the adults and lower the breeding population. It seems that most commercial potting soils like Miracle Grow and Kellog's Patio Plus have fungas gnat eggs in them or attract fungas gnats very soon
 
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