k9 unit's in residential neighborhood

[EasyBakeIndica]

RIGHT...the officers, nor the dog any idea that there was pot actually growing until they searched the residence. From what it sounds like "drug activity" would sound like smoking outside.

 

[FrankRizzo]

The guy in that video is Berry Cooper. He has an article in the new Cannabis Culture about Drug dogs too. It has some good info in it. Go look for it

 

[Verite]

Um heres what I read,

" ... "Narcotics officers say they received an anonymous tip about drug activity near a home in Southeast Memphis. Officers say as they approached the intersection of Echels Street and Wilshire Drive, they smelled marijuana... "

Nothing to do with the dog until it was involved looking for a specific house. The tip brought them there and the officers claimed to smell mj.

Had the 'tip' never come in or if she didnt answer the door without a warrant there wouldnt be any story.

 

[Guest]

dog’s are trained for different purposes: drugs, dead bodies searching, chasing. Dogs trained for drugs are extremely valuable because they can’t search all the time, You have to give them an order. Dog can work only for couple of hour a day, to long sniffing makes them useless till they rest. So A) Are You sure that this dog is a drug dog? B) I doubt that someone will waist dog for searching around neighborhood

 

[Haps]

Grind up a bag of hand leaf or moldy or damaged herb to dry powder. Take a walk down the block late at night and scatter it in your worst neighbors front yard. Then if the cops show up and search him, you will have advance warning to tear down and hide.
H

don't get caught

 

[crumb-bum]

I remember reading a story here (or maybe one of the other sites) years ago about how a house got raided, but the growers were ready for it. They had buried their product somewhere and sprayed the entire house with some kind of cannabis mixture, causing the dogs to go completely insane upon entering the house, and never finding the product.

No offense, but I have to lol @ some of these posts, it shows how overly paranoid some of you are - not that that's a bad thing.

Cops in my city have real criminals to worry about, so I guess that eases my mind a bit in some strange way.

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

Cops in my county busted almost 500 growers last year.

 

[R03]

Cops in my county busted almost 500 growers last year.

How big were these grow ops?
If you're growing more than personal amounts, good riddens to them.

It's the whole reason that the real drug war is happening, growing for profits in large quantities which ends up in the hands of gangs, with guns, and causing turf wars and whatnot. The amount of cash laying around, with no taxes being payed. Of course the gov is going to go after it, anything they seize is the tax in itself payed in full.

That's the whole problem.

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

How big were these grow ops?
If you're growing more than personal amounts, good riddens to them.

It's the whole reason that the real drug war is happening, growing for profits in large quantities which ends up in the hands of gangs, with guns, and causing turf wars and whatnot. The amount of cash laying around, with no taxes being payed. Of course the gov is going to go after it, anything they seize is the tax in itself payed in full.

That's the whole problem.

Actually, yes, I would say that at least 80% of them were busted growing commercially. And here is why that's NOT the whole problem:

First of all, it's naive to think that law enforcement is purely tempted by the "amount of cash laying around". Find me an American grow house which has been busted with over $10k in cash laying around inside of it. While the police always say they confiscated over $1 million worth of plants, they usually find $1-5k in cash on hand. If anything, they're tempted to bust growers, because the State and Federal governments can seize the assets on the grow property. **** taxes, that's stealing.

Basically, you're implying that you've never purchased bud before? I have never met anyone who gets their pot for free (everybody pays for it, one way or another). I'm usually happy as hell if I can find some nice, domestically grown, commercial pot, especially at a fair price (28g~$300). I certainly wouldn't try to blame the entire drug war on "commercial farmers" because, umm...Indoor cultivation did not exist before Marijuana was made illegal. And even then, all the government would have to do is tax the stuff, not lock people away with murderers and rapists.

I find the "posturing" on this site hilarious. Why come to ICMAG if you have any problem with a profitable cannabis industry??? You endorse a commercial seed enterprise everytime you log in. I'm guessing you don't have a problem with Gyspy or SeedBay, but you want every grower who's ever made a penny off of it to go to jail??? (Shit, you might as well tell all these breeder's to go **** themselves personally)

Didn't you mention in another thread how you had women in Amsterdam who were lining up to help you move over and start a grow op??? Do you think all of the Dutch coffee shop owners should be thrown in jail?

If you spend your time on here looking at all these HUGE grows, just to convince yourself that the police won't ever care about your personal grow...well, I hope it helps you sleep at night.

 

[Maj.PotHead]

the dog has to be commanded to sniff something out, the whole time the dog only sniffed where the officer pointed.


true 110% my 1st incounter with a dope dog was in jan 1982 leaving germany and the us.army. when i got to baggage checkin there was a yellow line for me to stand behind after placing my bags on the counter. dog came out handler pointer dog sniffed handler pointed again dog sniffed again then went back to room he came from.


sounds like duder who 1st posted this thread has a cop cruising his hood because he prolly has a girlfriend liven close by. cops are notorious for haven girlfriends while on the beat !!!

 

[R03]

Uhh just cause I come here does not mean I support the mafia or misc gangs, these are the commercial growers that I do not support. Why do you think they're typically the ones going down?

This seed business you speak of is not solely here to support commercial ops, gangs, it's here for the little guys too. I try to follow the law as much as closely as I can, not because I agree with it 100%. It's because that is the way it is. If it were up to me I would grow thousands of plants, but I am not prepared to go to jail, I do not need that many plants, and it would be nice to make all that money, but then how many people would I be hurting in the end. People dying because of something I sold someone, and then they get shot in a deal gone wrong.

I have a conscience.

As for commercial growers in Amsterdam, I believe if you own a cafe, growing for it is a fine thing. I have a problem when criminal activities are involved. It's what give marijuana a bad name.

I do not buy from anyone, I also have not smoked in months. Because of this fact.

I don't believe every grower should go to jail, I think if they get busted it's because they are tied in with criminals, and it's a pyramid of crime that leads LEO to the grow. They should be ready to accept whatever penalties come their way, and not cry about how it's unfair and all that. We all know how the law, and gov stands on grows. Pretty simple, don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

I'm able to sleep at night perfectly fine, since my actions (grow) are small. I accept full responsibility if I should happen to get arrested, which is why it is so small. It is to support my own rare smoking, and not to sell, or distribute and try and make money from it.

I have a real job, and it's legal, and won't wind my up in jail.

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

I have a real job, and it's legal, but I'm a medical user. So when I run out, I need more, otherwise I can't work.

Also, I'm aware the possibility that not every citizen is in the same sacrificial position as yourself ("Pretty simple, don't do the crime, if you can't do the time."), nor are they able to grow in some situations.

I hope you don't buy bananas either. Because Chiquita is guilty of financing WAY more violence than any marijuana dealer. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001926458_chiquita12.html)

"I accept full responsibility if I should happen to get arrested, which is why it is so small."

No, your grow is small because it's personal, but the police won't believe you. If you ever get arrested, I would feel bad, because no matter what, you're going to lose a great amount of freedom for the next few years. It sounds like you're a very productive, open-minded individual. I wouldn't wish anything bad on someone for growing. Any crime which occurs (murder, theft, tax evasion) is a product of greed, which is attracted to the value of the plant. Which is a product of an unregulated black market.

"This seed business you speak of is not solely here to support commercial ops, gangs, it's here for the little guys too."

Yeah..."for the little guys too"!

 

[chaingmai]

I also have not smoked in months.

Well fire one up then bro!

 

[R03]

I think I may have been a bit short/harsh in my original post saying "good riddens" to large commercial grow ops etc. I understand that there are medical users who consume a lot in comparison to the avg smoker, or not so average like myself. I know MJ is an important med for many. I should have clarified that my problem is with these thug wannabe types who cause massive fires, hookup multiple apartments (ie: in Toronto, 8 apartments joined, completely unsafe) gangs, kids in elementary/highschool carrying guns, robbing people, etc.

I really don't wish jail, or a bust on anyone unless they are affiliated with a gang of some sort, and bring pain, and death to people.

I'm not really aware of the full extent of the law and their views on med growers/smokers, and that one can try and follow the law, yet still get busted, probably just at an officers discretion, could be sort of a gray area where the law is concerned.

I don't necessarily agree with laws pertaining to MJ, but I know I cannot win and do what I want. I have to follow them as closely as possible, because I think I would be a popular guy in jail. So, I rather not go, I try and keep it under 5 plants. In hopes that I'll be ok, even then i doubt all will be Fem, so it'll be under 5 I guess.

Thanks for the article in Chiquita, interesting read for sure. I eat a Banana everyday for breakfast.

And finally, as for firing one up. I know a few people who sell. I started to worry about even going to see them, I would never pay, it was always given to me. They are acquaintances though they consider me a friend, i thought they were friends until i learned more about them. These people honestly scare me, the things they do, the things i've witnessed on an innocent visit. I don't even want to pick up my phone when they call, my affiliation with them could be frowned upon by LEO, aswell my health and safety is a great concern. I also think that quality is way subpar, I worry about chemicals, and it being laced or something. I wouldn't put it past these people.

Unfortunately for me, I must wait for my own MJ to bloom. I just don't trust these people, they're pretty tweaked out with lots of problems with the law, trafficking charges, gun talk, it's just not my scene.

K+ to all,

 

[JonnybeGood]

Think dogs are trained to smell for specific scents or can they learn multiple ones?
like cash/pot/coke. i figure each new scent is like a new trick.. so i figure a smart dog could.
opinions?

 

[Guest]

Commercial growers not directly tied to "legit" medical dispense programs should go to hell!! They are the ones causing the drug war. I am a responsible adult that grows for personal and occasionally gifts a little to responsible adults in my family or closest of friends. All of them know that all 6'3" and 270lbs of muscle that god gave me will remind them of my policies about responsibility. I started puffin as a young teen and did not let it ruin my life. Some youngsters can't handle it. I wouldn't share with anyone that let it out of their possesion or supplied some minor/irresponsible individual.

Now, on to the topic of the thread. It is sad that the commercial M*****F****** have ruined it for us and we all are at least a little paranoid. I would suspect that the dog(s) you have wittnessed should not be of any concern to you. Just make sure you have odor, light and mouth leaks eliminated and be chill. It sucks that when I lived next to a decrepid, disgusting, permanantly drunk freak years ago he could brew his own beer (he did) and drink himself stupid every night and let his kids run wild through life with no legal liability unless he drove (he did). I had to be concerned with three flowering females and some little clones/moms.

So if you are stressed go to the outdoor forum and tell all the 100+plant farmers and the commercial indoor guys in the other forums to go to hell. We will never overgrow the problem/laws with big ops. If everyone that grew had 1-5females nd did not distribute for money (other than medical) it would be so much easier. RANTING? Yes I am.

 

[NorCalChron]

I may not like what happens when gangs get ahold of drugs but if weren't for commercial growers risking their balls day in and day out I wouldnt have any smoke when im not growing. I personally have respect for people making a living on cannabis, this plant shouldnt be illegal so why should it matter how much you have.

I got a couple k-9 units chillen outside my house right now that scared the shit outa me but luckily i remember theres meth heads next door haha

 

[Guest]

I don't think that dogs would be down with the drug enforcement job if they really knew what was going on. Man's best friend and all, right?

 

[Verite]

Think dogs are trained to smell for specific scents or can they learn multiple ones?
like cash/pot/coke. i figure each new scent is like a new trick.. so i figure a smart dog could.
opinions?

Thats why they call them drug sniffing dogs instead of coke sniffing dogs.