k9 unit's in residential neighborhood

[EasyBakeIndica]

I agree with CamEleven. They probably try to keep the windows rolled down as much as possible to let some fresh air in the car. The pups can develop skin issues if the AC is left blasting on them all day.
It isn't feasible to leave the windows rolled down while the car is parked, so they ultimately have to do it while they're rolling around neighborhoods.

 

[Guest]

It isn't feasible to leave the windows rolled down while the car is parked, so they ultimately have to do it while they're rolling around neighborhoods.

I hope you guys are right about this.

I think the question still needs to be asked, can the dog smell the grow from that distance? If not, when will he start smelling it?

Worst case scenario : you have a charles bronson war on drugs cop k9. Every now and then somehow indicates to the dog to be 'on' while slowly driving down a street.

There has not much thats been definitively said about it other than the K9 cop thread on OG back in the day... and i remember thinking even back then that the questions were still not answered..

 

[DrMota-TheFirst]

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Sonic Pest Repellers

Had a link to these b4 in my sketchty, super-paranoid days...but what the hell...do a search and they're everywhere...they may not scare off a trained drug dog but if worse ever came to worse your lawyer would make him a hot dog and any evidence based on the mutt's response to your house and the ensuing warrants could be thrown out of court...check your O'Brien's hearing in the U.S....of course knock on wood (your head at times) and it will all be good.

 

[DrMota-TheFirst]

My bad, didn't address the whole thing bout d-dog smelling at a distance. With 10000x better smell than us he could smell pot the next block over but does that associate you? Of course not, he needs to be on your curtilage(look it up) with preferably a filmed response to his actions and a police dog training record to prove his past reponses..heh heh..juries would love a cop explaining his dog's previous actions.

 

[b_is_me]

I was at a concert once doing the age check for my drinking ID bracelet thing and it was before we went into the venue. Anyways I was at the back of the line and a cop with a K9 went rolling by (probably about 10 feet away) and the dog started barking crazy barks, like I want to bite your head off barks. I did have a couple joints in my pocket though. THe cop didnt stop or anything luckily. but thats first hand experience for me with this sort of thing.

 

[Verite]

Thats just funny. The last time I checked...doing shit illegally to obtain probable cause was called the patriot act, and they have NO problem with that at all.
Im sure the officer is going to confess to obtaining information illegally to make his case....
They always abide by the law. Hu huh

Maybe you should check your funny at the door and research what branch of police have the right to use the patriot act. Last time I checked its a federal right not granted to local police the local ones that are responsible for 99.99% of all weed busts. The feds aint stupid enough either to use something like the patriot act to go after small time pot growers.

I also hate to burst anyones bubble but cops dont get to go out and do what ever they want. They have to report their time/activities much like any other job and there isnt one police chief I know thats willing to risk their career by condoning officers to waste department time conducting illegal searches.

 

[Green W. Bush]

I'm somewhat qualified, so here's some input

I'm somewhat qualified, so here's some input

I used to live in Indiana, and I had a good friend who grew with me, both indoor and outdoor. His dad was a State Trooper. We'd smoke with occasionally, he knew about our friend's grow, he'd always warn us if something fishy was going down with busts, etc. Real cool guy, and he'd always give us nice fatherly advice about the weed game - don't **** around with commercial, he'd always say. "Just grow for your head, you'll be fine". The eternal 'loose lips sink ships' argument.

I got busted while in college and remembered noticing something really fishy. When the dog was searching my room, it was as if the dog had no idea it was even looking for anything. Just ambling about. Turns out it wasn't a drug dog at all. They just used it to basically give themselves leeway to search anything and everything. According to my friend, this was a city-cop thing...but I surely wouldn't be surprised that it happens all over the place.

I didn't really make the point I wanted to make here other than to say that cops are people too - albeit maybe a bit misguided in their choice of career. To say that cops won't bend the rules to get someone is not true. They will. In fact, what cops look for more than anything is people who appear to be a threat to the community's fabric - like dreaddies. On the other side of that coin, most cops are of a military background.

I think this thread just got stupider because of this post, sorry. Watty Kush has my head upside down...

I really had a point before posting. Its gone now. But here's a funny side note: there was this cop who worked with my friend's dad who had panic attacks something fierce. Anytime there was a call on her radio, she'd drive the opposite direction and hide. This went on for like 2 years before they wised up and fired her. That was one cop not to be fearful of, LOL!

 

[Guest]

I also hate to burst anyones bubble but cops dont get to go out and do what ever they want. They have to report their time/activities much like any other job and there isnt one police chief I know thats willing to risk their career by condoning officers to waste department time conducting illegal searches.

Police chief's don't 'condone' racial profiling, illegal searches, or anything illegal for that matter. But obviously, it still happens. I'm sure that the lack of support from chief would discourage such things, but if the cop can get away with it and he gets to score big points for busting an evil grow operation (e.g. 4 plants in a closet with a street value of 100K lol), why wouldnt he do it.

... turns out it wasn't a drug dog at all. They just used it to basically give themselves leeway to search anything and everything. According to my friend, this was a city-cop thing...but I surely wouldn't be surprised that it happens all over the place

This is exactly why it wouldnt suprise me if the local k9 unit drives through the residential areas of my township to fish for clues. In a suburban town with a well budgeted police force, high taxes, and no crime, there is an incentive for the k9 units to justify there exorbantly high cost of operating. What better way to do this than bust some grows in the name of 'protecting the community' ?

 

[Guest]

i have had like 5 canine units outside my house helicopters circling low and i thought i was busted for sure...turned out they were hunting down some thief...talk about sweating bullets...

 

[CamEleven]

Around thanksgiving last year I got pulled over with my brother (who had a couple g's in his sock) the cop said he smelled marijuana and pulled me and my brother out of the car. He searched us both, but never looked in our shoes or socks. He gave us the "we can do this the hard way or easy way speach" and told us the dogs were coming in to search the car. Any way the dog was sniffing out the car and me and my brother were sitting on the curb about 10 feet from the car, and the dog never smelled the bud in my brothers sock. I agree that the dog has to be commanded to sniff something out, the whole time the dog only sniffed where the officer pointed. I'm also pretty sure that the dog is a real k-9, the area I live in is very low crime with a well funded police force.

 

[Vermonster]

dogs don't smell for shit all the time they have to be qued up, if you have watched a dog do a search you see the cop will liek run his hand over an area and the dog will follow. They only search for hope of reward not all the time. I'am sure if he is in the car driving you are fine. if he's walking around on a tight leash sniffing your yard then be afraid, be very afraid!

 

[Verite]

Police chief's don't 'condone' racial profiling, illegal searches, or anything illegal for that matter. But obviously, it still happens. I'm sure that the lack of support from chief would discourage such things, but if the cop can get away with it and he gets to score big points for busting an evil grow operation (e.g. 4 plants in a closet with a street value of 100K lol), why wouldnt he do it?..

The same reason the chief wont allow it, because it isnt worth wasting their career getting caught fabricating shit on some small time pot grow. Cops are opportunistic when it comes to their not doing things by the book usually to establish probable cause. They dont go completely out of their way 24/7 hoping for some big bust while dodging everyones constitutional rights.. sorry you might think thats happening but so far theres no evidence to back that idea.

Cops also arent stupid enough to think theyre never going to be questioned by someone elses lawyer or internal investigations.. do you seriously think they want to risk their career/pension on getting caught doing that kind of shit?

 

[Guest]

Cops also arent stupid enough to think theyre never going to be questioned by someone elses lawyer or internal investigations.. do you seriously think they want to risk their career/pension on getting caught doing that kind of shit?

thats a good point. its probably unlikely.

 

[EasyBakeIndica]

Here's how it works:

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/mos...ntent_id=7c781f1a-fd4a-4edb-9474-bb47ab13ad04

"Shelby County Sheriff's deputies say they have arrested a woman who is accused of using her home to grow more than a quarter million dollars worth of marijuana."

"Narcotics officers say they received an anonymous tip about drug activity near a home in Southeast Memphis. Officers say as they approached the intersection of Echels Street and Wilshire Drive, they smelled marijuana.

A drug dog was brought to the location and the odor was traced to a house in the 3600 block of Wilshire. Deputies say they knocked on the door and the resident, 58 year-old Hosezetta Spencer, allowed the officers to enter."

It's amazing they needed a k-9 at all for this (NICE one judge!). Basically, I've seen this used multiple times. If they can't get enough evidence for a search warrant, they'll bring a k-9 along with them to the "knock and talk" phase of the investigation.

This is normally the last phase of an investigation, when all real evidence has been impossible to attain. Officers will walk up, zero in on "smoked" marijuana with their own noses. Then use the dog to zero in on the stash of "processed" marijuana, then tear up the rest of your house.
peace
ebi

 

[Guest]

"Narcotics officers say they received an anonymous tip about drug activity near a home in Southeast Memphis. Officers say as they approached the intersection of Echels Street and Wilshire Drive, they smelled marijuana.

A drug dog was brought to the location and the odor was traced to a house in the 3600 block of Wilshire. Deputies say they knocked on the door and the resident, 58 year-old Hosezetta Spencer, allowed the officers to enter."

It's amazing they needed a k-9 at all for this (NICE one judge!). Basically, I've seen this used multiple times. If they can't get enough evidence for a search warrant, they'll bring a k-9 along with them to the "knock and talk" phase of the investigation.

This is normally the last phase of an investigation, when all real evidence has been impossible to attain. Officers will walk up, zero in on "smoked" marijuana with their own noses. Then use the dog to zero in on the stash of "processed" marijuana, then tear up the rest of your house.
peace
ebi

This is scary shit. so basically, contrary to whats been claimed on this thread, the drug dog pinpointed a house on a block from an intersection. (e.g. the k9 was brought over and the smell was 'traced' to the ladies house.

A drug dog then, CAN pinpoint the source of a smell from the street.

 

[KharmaGirl]

No, to me it sounds like the officers claimed to smell it from the intersection, not the dog. Likely they had the dog walk around some houses until he found the one with pot.....

 

[Guest]

No, to me it sounds like the officers claimed to smell it from the intersection, not the dog. Likely they had the dog walk around some houses until he found the one with pot.....

Right. The officers brought the dog to the intersection and the dog found the house on that block with pot. How would the dog find the house with pot if as you say, it cant smell it from the sidewalk/ street? Unless they took the dog door to door (which is a scary thought).. wouldnt this article imply that the dog was able to pinpoint where the smell was coming from?

I'm suprised that I'm the only one that seems to be concerned that a k9 was used to find a house that contained a grow....

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

anyone who allows the smell of beutiful marijuana to get out into the street next to there house deserves to get busted.

 

[KharmaGirl]

OK. the officers smelled pot at an intersection. They didn't know where it was from. They likely walked the dog in front/around some houses until the dog narrowed down which one it was. The dog wasn't in the intersection just sitting there sniffing and barking. They would have to walk him around a bit.

No one is saying they aren't concerned, but what are they do to? there's many ways to get caught, a dog just one cause. Not everybody is going to shut down or not grow just because a dog "could" possibly smell their grow somwhow. It's just one of many risks each grower decides to take when growing.

 

[newbgrow]

There's a video being sold online by an ex-cop who now wants to teach people about the secrets of his trade - for a price of course AND most of the "secrets" are common sense. But there is one section on drug dogs, and I would have to disagree with most people here. It is unclear whether a dog can smell weed from your house on a moving car, but these dogs certainly do not need some kind of a command to do it's job.

As the video shows, they are trained to associate certain smells (read: weed) with a toy, and everytime they play fetch, they are searching for this smell. Drug dogs are not "on duty" or "off duty", they are simply "playing" when they look for their favorite toy.

That be said, if you have good working carbon filters, I wouldn't worry too much about drug dogs in a moving car. However, I think you would be correct to take some sort of precaution.

The video also shows DEA/Drug task force agents giving false commands to the dog to make it respond, and using that as "reasonable cause" to search cars... Take it for what it's worth.