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Hammerhead

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I won’t vote for anyone over retirement age. I haven’t voted for president since 2008.
I always vote.. It's the only way to keep my SS$. REP/GOP have tried for a decade now to take it or reduce it. That will put millions of retired Americans on the streets to die. Until I see them go back to petty crimes and leave our retirement income alone they won't get my vote.
 

zachrockbadenof

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I always vote.. It's the only way to keep my SS$. REP/GOP have tried for a decade now to take it or reduce it. That will put millions of retired Americans on the streets to die. Until I see them go back to petty crimes and leave our retirement income alone they won't get my vote.
i'm not sure what u r reading, but from what i see/hear, the rep's want to change the rules for future retiree's , not the people who r receiving benefits now... can u post where they r trying to change the rules for people already getting medicare... thanks
 

RobFromTX

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Id like to know about that as well. I know they wanted to up retirement age to 70 but that was going to happen regardless with the growing debt and an ever declining work force. Most millennials i know don't think they'll ever have the option of retirement anyway, much less any of the benefits that retirees enjoy right now.
 

Hiddenjems

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When social security started the average lifespan was 1-2 years older than the ss retirement age.

I don’t plan on ever getting a penny. But you can’t sell people a retirement plan and take them off of it after they retire.

I took a different strategy. I busted ass until 40 then “retired”. I sold off most of my business and work part time doing the same thing as a privateer.
 

Microbeman

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i'm not sure what u r reading, but from what i see/hear, the rep's want to change the rules for future retiree's , not the people who r receiving benefits now... can u post where they r trying to change the rules for people already getting medicare... thanks
same thing...no?
 

zachrockbadenof

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When social security started the average lifespan was 1-2 years older than the ss retirement age.

I don’t plan on ever getting a penny. But you can’t sell people a retirement plan and take them off of it after they retire.

I took a different strategy. I busted ass until 40 then “retired”. I sold off most of my business and work part time doing the same thing as a privateer.
can u tell me where u read that people already on medicare will be taken off... that is not my understanding, so please enlighten
 

mean mr.mustard

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entropical

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Ha!

Don't get entropical fired from his day job.

Putin still hasn't accepted his application for "shoeshine boy" (bootlicker)...

He's likely pretty sore about it.
It is better than your job of sucking corrupt old Joe Bidens ass..
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Hammerhead

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i'm not sure what u r reading, but from what i see/hear, the rep's want to change the rules for future retiree's , not the people who r receiving benefits now... can u post where they r trying to change the rules for people already getting medicare... thanks
It's not hard to find. I suggest you read more about what they have tried to do. This is not something new. Those dumbasses have tried many things over the years. The dems don't do that shit. Heres a few up to 2006

1935: Almost all Republicans in Congress oppose the creation of Social Security.

1939: 75 percent of Republicans in Senate try to kill legislation providing Social Security benefits to dependents and survivors as well as retired workers.

1950: 79 percent of House and 89 percent of Senate Republicans vote against disability insurance to defeat it.

1956: 86 percent of Republicans in Senate oppose disability insurance; program approved nonetheless.

1964: Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater and future president Ronald Reagan both suggest that Social Security be made voluntary.

1965: 93 percent of Republicans in House and 62 percent in Senate vote to kill Medicare.

1977: 58 percent of Senate votes against amendment to provide semiannual increases.

1977: 88 percent of Republicans in House and 63 percent in Senate vote against an increase in Social Security payroll tax needed to keep the system solvent.

1981: President Reagan proposes $35 billion in Social Security cuts over the next 5 years. The cuts would have included the elimination of student benefits, lump-sum death benefits, and a retroactive elimination of the $122 minimum benefit for three million recipients. (Congress ultimately enacted $24 billion of the proposed cuts.)

1981: Reagan administration begins a wholesale review of the Social Security Disability rolls, resulting in over 560,000 eligibility investigations in 1982 — 360,000 more than the year before. Ultimately, at least 106,000 families were removed from the rolls.

1981: 99 percent of Republicans in House and 98 percent in Senate vote for legislation containing $22 billion in Social Security and Medicare cuts.

1981: Reagan administration proposes a three-month delay in 1982 cost-of-living increases.

1981: Reagan administration proposes $200 billion in Social Security cuts between 1982 and 1990. The cuts include a reduction in early retirement benefit; tightened disability eligibility standards; delay in the 1982 cost-of-living adjustment and a 10 percent eventual reduction in benefits for all new retirees. (The U.S. Senate repudiated the President’s proposals by a vote of 96 to 0.)

1982: President Reagan and Senate Republicans propose $40 billion in benefit cuts over three fiscal years.

1985: Reagan administration backs attempts by Republican Senate leadership to eliminate the 1986 Social Security COLA. Vice President Bush casts the tie-breaking vote to eliminate COLA. (House defeats it – it was never enacted.)

1990s: Efforts to end Social Security took the form of appealing to younger workers to put “their” Social Security insurance payments into the stock market.

2005: A Labor-led fight against privatization saved Social Security for the time being.

2006: President George W. Bush, once again, includes privatization of Social Security in his 2007 budget.
 

zachrockbadenof

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hammer... 1935,1977,1981,2006 etcetc... i wasn't around in 1935, nor was i on s.s. in 2006-

i am on it now, and i have not seen any rep. suggest cutting my benefits- talk about raising the age/etc for future retirees... yes.... maybe u can enlighten me to some rep talking points about the near term changes that have been proposed to cut 'present' retiree benefits... this i'd be interested in, not proposals put forth in 1935
 

audiohi

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hammer... 1935,1977,1981,2006 etcetc... i wasn't around in 1935, nor was i on s.s. in 2006-

i am on it now, and i have not seen any rep. suggest cutting my benefits- talk about raising the age/etc for future retirees... yes.... maybe u can enlighten me to some rep talking points about the near term changes that have been proposed to cut 'present' retiree benefits... this i'd be interested in, not proposals put forth in 1935

WASHINGTON, Feb 17 (Reuters) - U.S. Senator Rick Scott on Friday revised his plan to end all federal programs after five years to exclude the popular Social Security and Medicare programs, after enduring weeks of mounting criticism from Democrats and his fellow Republicans.

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I guess I'll stop there.
 
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Hammerhead

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hammer... 1935,1977,1981,2006 etcetc... i wasn't around in 1935, nor was i on s.s. in 2006-

i am on it now, and i have not seen any rep. suggest cutting my benefits- talk about raising the age/etc for future retirees... yes.... maybe u can enlighten me to some rep talking points about the near term changes that have been proposed to cut 'present' retiree benefits... this i'd be interested in, not proposals put forth in 1935
Doesn't matter when/how/why they did it. Someone in that party always tries to fuck with SS and Medicare. If you dont see it I'd crawl out from under the rock. For some reason, people always vote for those that don't do the worst for them. When the dems do something to help us peasants they call it socialism or call it illegal LMAO.
 

zachrockbadenof

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Doesn't matter when/how/why they did it. Someone in that party always tries to fuck with SS and Medicare.
something that was proposed in 1935 or 45 or 55, does not effect me- i don't give a shit.... now if u tell me that next months check will be 25pct less.... then u have my attention...

at the end of the day the country can't go on as we have been since clinton... can't keep running 1-2-3trillion in the red every year - something has to give - s.s./medicare /defense /etc have to be brought in line.... bring in a dollar, spend a dollar, not 2 or 3... how u do it.... we need better minds then mine to figure that out... and apparently we haven't found em yet in washington...
 

audiohi

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at the end of the day the country can't go on as we have been since clinton... can't keep running 1-2-3trillion in the red every year - something has to give - s.s./medicare /defense /etc have to be brought in line.... bring in a dollar, spend a dollar, not 2 or 3... how u do it.... we need better minds then mine to figure that out... and apparently we haven't found em yet in washington...

here's an idea...

bring inn a billion dollars, pay appropriate taxes.

business? pay appropriate taxes.

problem solved.
 

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