Jamaldelika and Banghi Haze in the open

[ThaiBliss]

What type of fertilizer are you using Thai?
Ive been top layering with worm casts and compost and
making tea from them. Thats with plants in pots and in ground though the ones in the ground never show deficiencies.

Same here, no rain for weeks, the top soil is cracked and bone dry really wish I mulched.

Hi Rinse,

I have fabric pots with many holes cut in the bottom so the roots can go into the native soil. The pots are about 16 inches tall and about 5 feet in diameter. In the pots, I have 50% river bottom soil and aged cow manure. The rest is old compost made from leaves and grass clippings. The compost is 3 years old. This mix has been fortified with so many things I cannot think of them all, but I'll try:

Coconut Husk
Bone Meal
Greensand
Rock Phosphate
Kelp
Chitin (crab shells)
Alfalfa Pellets
Coffee Grounds
Horse Manure
Lime
Calcium Carbonate
Blood Meal
Bird Guano (low nitrogen)
etc., etc..

Overall, the highest percentage of anything was tree leaves.

I have added fish meal, 5-1-1, with 3 watering so far, at about 1/8th the recommended strength. After I do, the plants look like they are at optimum. So, I think nitrogen is the limiting nutrient. However, the PH is a little on the low side the last time I checked, between 6.2 and 6.5. I did add calcium carbonate when I found this out about a month or more ago.

Orfeas - I could not believe your post with the Zamaldelica buds. Only when you posted again about it did I realize that you are not joking.


Are the roots restricted in any way where those Zamaldelica are planted? I have experienced auto flowering from root restriction with a Golden Tiger plant I had. It will be very interesting to see how it progresses from here. Too bad it did not happen about a month from now.

I'll post some pictures of the NepaleseJam and Bangi Haze in a week or two, if you still don't mind me posting them on this thread.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

 

[rüdiger]

eh spartan, !

Thaibliss, many sat. definately react to root restriction and decreasing N with a faster onset, i think the intresting aspect is that certain zamaldelica phenos express that trait very strong.

 

[ThaiBliss]

eh spartan, !

Thaibliss, many sat. definately react to root restriction and decreasing N with a faster onset, i think the intresting aspect is that certain zamaldelica phenos express that trait very strong.

Greetings,

I forgot to mention that it is the Zamal that is supposed to have that root restriction auto-trait. But I only experienced it so far in the Golden Tiger side.

T.B.

 

[orfeas]

Ok, let's see!
This Jamaldelica had been sharing the same hole with the other two(the big one and the "Thai" one) till about end of May. She was the smallest and displayed redish hues mostly on leaf stalks and very little on the stem.
Around the end of May(29th?) I dug her up and transplanted in 20-25 lt pot with the thought of letting her there for the rest of the journey. But within two weeks her roots had already taken up the pot space and I thought to myself that was no good.
Therefore I dug a hole just a little bigger than the pot and there she moved. In a week or so there she shows signs of flowering.
Now I am thinking, rootbound? In the pot , yes, but in the ground where the soil is not rock solid?
Then I am wondering about the pheno...Redish leaf stalks? Is this the case with Jamaldelica? Of the few Jamaldelicas I have seen, none expressed such colouration...

Dubi, we need your lights!

Orfeas

P.S. ThaiBliss, have you mistaken my post about the Nepjam flowering for Jamaldelica? I can't remember mentioning a Jamdel flowering...
As for your pics, I'd love to see them here, nice token for comparison...

 

[Rinse]

Hi Rinse,

I have fabric pots with many holes cut in the bottom so the roots can go into the native soil. The pots are about 16 inches tall and about 5 feet in diameter. In the pots, I have 50% river bottom soil and aged cow manure. The rest is old compost made from leaves and grass clippings. The compost is 3 years old. This mix has been fortified with so many things I cannot think of them all, but I'll try:

Coconut Husk
Bone Meal
Greensand
Rock Phosphate
Kelp
Chitin (crab shells)
Alfalfa Pellets
Coffee Grounds
Horse Manure
Lime
Calcium Carbonate
Blood Meal
Bird Guano (low nitrogen)
etc., etc..

Overall, the highest percentage of anything was tree leaves.

I have added fish meal, 5-1-1, with 3 watering so far, at about 1/8th the recommended strength. After I do, the plants look like they are at optimum. So, I think nitrogen is the limiting nutrient. However, the PH is a little on the low side the last time I checked, between 6.2 and 6.5. I did add calcium carbonate when I found this out about a month or more ago.

Orfeas - I could not believe your post with the Zamaldelica buds. Only when you posted again about it did I realize that you are not joking.


Are the roots restricted in any way where those Zamaldelica are planted? I have experienced auto flowering from root restriction with a Golden Tiger plant I had. It will be very interesting to see how it progresses from here. Too bad it did not happen about a month from now.

I'll post some pictures of the NepaleseJam and Bangi Haze in a week or two, if you still don't mind me posting them on this thread.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

Nice blend! I also use coffee grounds, and usually add fish blood and bone around now (mid veg).
Im a big fan of worm casts, as its mild enough for any stage of growth and a great medium in general, in fact just worm cast and sand works good for autos.

I have a feeling my soil is on the acidic side so I may get some calcium carbonate.

 

[orfeas]

Well, folks, I've been growing a plant or two for quite a while now...
I've seen fire and I've seen rain, I've seen this and I've seen that...
but I've never seen such a thing before...
Gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused!

Nevertheless, such is growing I guess...

Bewildering, amazing Jamaldelica...

Orfeas

 

[mik']

nice!!!

 

[rüdiger]

oh

which one is it?

 

[orfeas]

oh

which one is it?

Hi Ruedy!
It's the one described in post 124 and the seeds were at the base of the internode (6th or 7th).

Orfeas

 

[rüdiger]

you know that most elite clones came from bagseed, hermies or unknown pollinations

a small, thin leaved, reddish stalked is also with me, its #6 the sabertooth

have a nice sunday, its raining like crazy i hope my platform wont sink

 

[orfeas]

Weather wise? Splendid! Clear Aegean skies, humidity very low and temps no more than 29C

Unknown pollination you say, PCK 15m away I say...
Is it viable? As for hermie, no clue whatsoever...
This afternoon I spotted another seed husk in the middle of an internode.
Full of surprises this dame...

Orfeas

 

[therevverend]

Gotta be PCK pollen too early for hermie. Be sure to dry those seeds out before stashing them. Nothing worse than a bag full of moldy seeds.
Second largest Banghi showing female! It's not the monster but she's lovely. The monster is a keeper if it's male. I'll be dabbing that pollen around.
Both of my big Banghis are showing yellowing leaf tips. Need to figure out if it's a deficiency or just wet weather stress.

 

[rüdiger]

Weather wise? Splendid! Clear Aegean skies, humidity very low and temps no more than 29C

Unknown pollination you say, PCK 15m away I say...
Is it viable? As for hermie, no clue whatsoever...
This afternoon I spotted another seed husk in the middle of an internode.
Full of surprises this dame...

Orfeas

ah forgot about that little punk sucking on the tomato irrigation

they look a bit green, but maybe allready viable... try it

 

[vladimiroslav]

Ha, I see Im not the only one having plants flowering at the summer solstice All my Zamal crosses are showing pistils since a couple of days! I'd be careful with the seeds aswell, I thought it was my pollenisation experiment that went too far on my Zamal Hash plants but then I realized it was too much seeds... and bingo, I saw the flowers at the base of the nugs, well hidden and out of my sight.

 

[orfeas]

Gotta be PCK pollen too early for hermie. Be sure to dry those seeds out before stashing them. Nothing worse than a bag full of moldy seeds.
Second largest Banghi showing female! It's not the monster but she's lovely. The monster is a keeper if it's male. I'll be dabbing that pollen around.
Both of my big Banghis are showing yellowing leaf tips. Need to figure out if it's a deficiency or just wet weather stress.

Large Bangis, eh! Mine is already too big for the restricted space it dwells and I had to bend/snap a few tops the other day. I shouldn't have taken Dubi seriously when he said they grow to 160-180 cm tall...
Or I should have taken my soil mix more seriously Farking Orfeasmix...
Hey, Rainer, the top secret might hide in Zeolith! I'll have to run a test next time and see if it does, but then my mix has been proved to amplify growth.

Therevverend, are the ones yellowing the leaves getting enough water? You see, one Jamdel of mine in a pot is yellowing a lot of leaves due to insufficient water...

As for them seeds, I threw them away! For one thing they were too unripe and for another there are to be more seeds in the process. What gets me perplexed here is that, according to Dubi, the Jamaldelica won't finish before the end of October. So will this plant be flowering for four months? I'm at a loss...which is something I am not with my Nepjam...

Vlado, if those plants are to finish end September, then 12 weeks of flowering is what a sativa takes, right?

Orfeas

 

[locoezon]

Hellooo Orfea!

I've just read the whole thread from the start,
because as i see u've got some more informations from the other thread.

Your ladys are rock and goes faster than i was thinking!
Mmmm 4 months of flowering and 3 months veg(if i'm right) have reach 7 months TRIP!!!

That want enormous patience!!!
Cheers!

 

[orfeas]

Hola loco cabronito!

Your calculation reads about right considering that sowing begins in March and harvesting in late October. That's summed up makes 7 months more or less.
True, it's quite a long trip yet so worth taking it...

Orfeas

 

[therevverend]

Sure it's not lack of water it's more like a little bit of necrosis at the tips of the new leaves. It's passed now so I think it's from cold wet windy weather last week. I gave them a strong dose of high N fish fertilizer almost 2 weeks ago so it might of been sativa sensitivity. They're growing like crazy again so I'm glad I didn't panic and do something stupid.
8 months of patience is what I love about plants. It puts your life in a different perspective living for something slowly progressing towards the future instead of instant gratification.
Tried my little autoflower last night. Incredible sour cherry sweet berry flavor.

 

[orfeas]

Sure it's not lack of water it's more like a little bit of necrosis at the tips of the new leaves. It's passed now so I think it's from cold wet windy weather last week. I gave them a strong dose of high N fish fertilizer almost 2 weeks ago so it might of been sativa sensitivity. They're growing like crazy again so I'm glad I didn't panic and do something stupid.
8 months of patience is what I love about plants. It puts your life in a different perspective living for something slowly progressing towards the future instead of instant gratification.
Tried my little autoflower last night. Incredible sour cherry sweet berry flavor.

Right on!
Had I been aware of the two conditions mentioned, I would have reacted just the same way!
Patience brings virtue, they say...
It enhances observation therefore knowledge, I say...

Nice to have a fresh smoke in summer, feels kinda out of time... or as if you eat toms in the winter...

Orfeas

 

[orfeas]

..
8 months of patience is what I love about plants. It puts your life in a different perspective living for something slowly progressing towards the future instead of instant gratification.
.

Isn't that true?

However, take a look at what's been happening within just a week of time span...Farking hilarious Laughing is all I can do for she seems as if she'll finally outdo me, she will...
A lot of preflowers but no real flowering yet, so I reckon July will be decisive but I already feel kinda having my back against the wall..Tell me, gypsy, can you see it in your crystal ball...

Orfeas