jamaican "lambsbread"

[Wolverine97]

Thanks! This is a seed run as I dry vape and seeds don't bother me. I roll the flower when semi dry into cherry size balls so the seeds gently fall out, and then freeze for vaping or jar cure for smoking. Seeds allow these tropical nlds to finish in 2 months under the sun or else it would be impossible to ripen. Thankfully we haven't had a frost here yet. Because the plants are big to begin with (the ones in the ground at least), and dry vaping consumes so little flower, I end up with enough flower for the year. I have thousands of seeds obviously if people want trades. If the negative effects of an indica hybrid is sluggishness/dullness and the negative effects of certain nld is paranoia, this strain has neither negative traits. It still feels like weed (vs an entirely new drug), but without the negative traits in terms of effects. Clear yet trippy, lucid, your body is moving almost automatically so you get things done while the brain is relaxed, extremely creative and meditative with a slight headband effect around the head. A few phenos do have a slight burnout, but nothing compared to modern hybrids that burn you out after 20min.

Sounds similar to mine, in effect at least. I usually seed mine as well, but this year I didn't. They still finished, and I'm at similar latitude (south central MI). I didn't think the biggest one would finish, but I notice these tend to finish off really fast all of a sudden. Like, mid October, looked like I had a month to go. But they all ripened up within a week or so, and were all harvested before Nov 1.

edit; same on the seeds too, I have lots, so I'm always open to trades. I have lots of other things I've worked with too, too many to list out.

 

[Marcus67]

One last post to prove you can fully finish the JLB in Canada outdoors under the sun so long as you fully seed. 8 weeks and ready. In the wild she would have shed her seeds at the right time here with the onset of the cold preventing germination, so this is not so un-natural of an environment after all. These plants come from the cold Tibetan Plateau originally let's not forget.

 

[Marcus67]

Sounds similar to mine, in effect at least. I usually seed mine as well, but this year I didn't. They still finished, and I'm at similar latitude (south central MI). I didn't think the biggest one would finish, but I notice these tend to finish off really fast all of a sudden. Like, mid October, looked like I had a month to go. But they all ripened up within a week or so, and were all harvested before Nov 1.

edit; same on the seeds too, I have lots, so I'm always open to trades. I have lots of other things I've worked with too, too many to list hat's very interesting.

That's very interesting! I'll have to try that. Will be in touch thanks.

 

[Elrond]

One last post to prove you can fully finish the JLB in Canada outdoors under the sun so long as you fully seed. 8 weeks and ready. In the wild she would have shed her seeds at the right time here with the onset of the cold preventing germination, so this is not so un-natural of an environment after all. These plants come from the cold Tibetan Plateau originally let's not forget.

Hello. So if I don’t pollinate the plants won’t finish? Can you please elaborate my friend.

 

[Wolverine97]

Hello. So if I don’t pollinate the plants won’t finish? Can you please elaborate my friend.

Pretty sure he was saying at his latitude, he thinks that's the only way they'll finish in time. Very well possible, especially with stuff originating at such a southern latitude. Your mileage may vary, depending on location, when they're started, and several other factors.

 

[Marcus67]

Hello. So if I don’t pollinate the plants won’t finish? Can you please elaborate my friend.

Yes. Seeds take about 60 days to ripen - even nld like JLB- and the resin which is on the seed coat (where most of the resin is) will ripen with the seed. Fully ripe seeds have white/amber resin, so it us ready. If you don't pollinate, it takes much longer as the plant is waiting and keeps trying to get pollinated. Only when it "gives up" will it start to ripen. I now think of each seeded unit like a fruit. The resin is fruit for my brain and the seed is my end of the symbiotic bargain to propagate it. I hope that makes sense.

 

[Elrond]

Yes, thank you, that makes sense. It is interesting for me, because I also live in a northern climate. This means basically if I grow mainly for seed reproduction, I can grow longer flowering plants. Would that work for Thais and Hazes, too, or do they take just far too long?

 

[Marcus67]

Yes, thank you, that makes sense. It is interesting for me, because I also live in a northern climate. This means basically if I grow mainly for seed reproduction, I can grow longer flowering plants. Would that work for Thais and Hazes, too, or do they take just far too long?

It all depends on when they start flowering and when the first frost is. You have to count 2 months after it's triggered, that's it. The plants will prioritize ripening the seeds over anything else, so if they get good sun I think, they could finish even faster.

 

[Marcus67]

Here is some processed flower of the earlier flowering JLB. I pinch off some semi dry flower (dried outside for a week in the shade under cold dry conditions to preserve terps- as can be done in the fridge). I gently roll/compress/massage the seeds out. The resin smears onto the flower so you don't worry about it falling off later due to the loose nld bud structure. What's on your fingers makes nice finger hash. I'll freeze most for dry vaping and jar cure the rest.

This small amount yielded all those seeds. The smell is of sweet black better but now with a creamy cedarwood. /floral. It's very unique.

 

[Wolverine97]

Here is some processed flower of the earlier flowering JLB. I pinch off some semi dry flower (dried outside for a week in the shade under cold dry conditions to preserve terps- as can be done in the fridge). I gently roll/compress/massage the seeds out. The resin smears onto the flower so you don't worry about it falling off later due to the loose nld bud structure. What's on your fingers makes nice finger hash. I'll freeze most for dry vaping and jar cure the rest.
View attachment 19102932 This small amount yielded all those seeds. The smell is of sweet black better but now with a creamy cedarwood. /floral. It's very unique.

I always try to keep humidity around 60% during the dry down, if possible. If the air is too try, the tissue dies too soon for my liking, which locks chlorophyll into the tissue, and doesn't let starches convert to sugars. Just sayin...

 

[Marcus67]

I always try to keep humidity around 60% during the dry down, if possible. If the air is too try, the tissue dies too soon for my liking, which locks chlorophyll into the tissue, and doesn't let starches convert to sugars. Just sayin...

For dry vaping I like it uncured semi dry and frozen. For smoking I agree although I do 50% humidity. This is the first year I tried cold drying out on my porch and I like it (people do it in the fridge). Obviously it takes longer to dry but it seems to preserve the terps better which is an issue with nld loose bud structure.

 

[Wolverine97]

Yeah, I aim for 60 degrees, and 60% rh. When I do it that way, it usually takes close to 3 weeks to dry. Personally, I would not dry in the fridge, the humidity in modern refrigerators is very low. Way too low for me. I want the tissue to stay alive for at least a week after chop. 60/60 seems to be the sweet spot, from what I have seen/found/experienced.

YMMV

 

[Marcus67]

Yeah, I aim for 60 degrees, and 60% rh. When I do it that way, it usually takes close to 3 weeks to dry. Personally, I would not dry in the fridge, the humidity in modern refrigerators is very low. Way too low for me. I want the tissue to stay alive for at least a week after chop. 60/60 seems to be the sweet spot, from what I have seen/found/experienced.

YMMV

Yeah for smoking that may be ideal. For dry vaping it's different I think.


I harvested the later 2 LB today and took samples. One is a mango pheno which was the most resistant, the bigger pheno in the ground which has a green apple/chem taste developed a bit of pm due to a too much nitrogen (I gave too much of a boost for better seeds). The green apple pheno though on dry vape produces one of the most incredible effects I have encountered- 3re eye activation for lack or a better word...like there is a gentle finger lighting touching that area, also a light headband effect. Calm meditative mind, very much at peace and happiness with the world, yet the body is energetic and motivated. Comfortable introspection and it' s so far the best weed I had for music. You act without overthinking so it'smotivational. Phylos had Jamaican ganja as a very unique strain in their dna bank and I can now see why. I will see with more time if it has a crash or tolerance buildup to this wondwrful unique effect. Amazing stuff! I'll let you know soon about the mango pheno.

Pepper, mango, green apple with carrots stem rubs...it makes me think Zamal and LB are not too unrelated seeing that "Coolie Ganja" reached both islands.

 

[Marcus67]

Update on the effects and taste. Early flowering red stem creamy cedar sweet black pepper "nature smell" pheno has an amazingly unique terp profile. One of my favourites to date. The effects are more conventional but with no anxiety or burnout. Slight introspection and meditative effects. Very enjoyable.

Pheno 2 is 100% pure mango and incredible mold resistance. It has a very clear "up" effects that gets you going in a positive clear way. There is little to no burnout.

Pheno 3 green stem is the chemical green apple that cures to grass/hay that most people would reject. The effects are the most unique however. It has a slight headband pressure in the head "3rd eye", but where it really shines in listening to and creating music. Some strains are more external/visual and it is a wast to not be on a hike after using it. With this, you are wasting the high if music is not involved. I understand how 70s reggae was influenced on this! There is a slight burnout on this one however as it's the most intense. It puts your brain to work with more sonic awareness of your surroundings or music. It's quite electric. I can only imagine if this were grown in Jamaica and without any inbreeding depression.

 

[Marcus67]

A dominant terpene in the faster flowering pheno is definitely cedrene giving it that cedar sweet woody smell. I think this being a dominant terpene is very rare

 

[Rgd]

his is a seed run

did you ever smoke finished weed from it..

wtg

 

[Rgd]

One last post to prove you can fully finish the JLB in Canada outdoors under the sun so long as you fully seed. 8 weeks and ready. In the wild she would have shed her seeds at the right time here with the onset of the cold preventing germination, so this is not so un-natural of an environment after all. These plants come from the cold Tibetan Plateau originally let's not forget. View attachment 19099911

oops.. I didn’t see that..

beautiful but doesn’t really look like LB which is only teeny calyxes on long fronds ...

these aren’t from jah green label thread starter huh
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but ..if its good its good

 

[Marcus67]

did you ever smoke finished weed from it..

wtg

Still waiting for a longer cure before smoking...plus my lungs are recovering from covid.


Only the early cedar pepper pheno has good resin. The mango and sour apple don't have good resin but great/ more unique effects. Maybe this matches the Landrace Team's version as they describe it as having an earlier flowering woody pheno and longer more sativa one. Gentle introspection and great for music also matches their description.

 

[Marcus67]

Mango pheno fully seeded foxtails. Looks horrible, tastes great and clean clear up effect.

 

[Prs2xs]

Still waiting for a longer cure before smoking...plus my lungs are recovering from covid.


Only the early cedar pepper pheno has good resin. The mango and sour apple don't have good resin but great/ more unique effects. Maybe this matches the Landrace Team's version as they describe it as having an earlier flowering woody pheno and longer more sativa one. Gentle introspection and great for music also matches their description.

I feel you-I got covid on Oct 17 and haven't been able to smoke anything due to my lungs being so weak/sensitive. Going to start ingesting orally soon if something doesn't change