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It's the CLUBS not the GROWERS!!!

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dagnabit

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ohhhh i see your stuck on black and white..

no room for nuance in a simple mind.


carry on.

there are no shades o' grey
it's either legal or illegal
215/420 never happened.
got it ;)

cnt compete with simpletons...
 

whodare

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simpletons ok...

i can go anywhere in the country and find prices that range from 250-500 dollars an oz for some real deal fire...

legal or not in your state the federal gov can still fuck you, the largest growers, and the clubs live with this over their head just like the next guy except now they are out in the open because it is "legal"...

regardless to argue that the price of weed isnt ridiculously inflated because of the federal governments stance on the subject is plain stupid, i mean are you trying to tell me if the feds said we could grow as much as we want that prices would remain 250-500...
 

DiscoBiscuit

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that was for your benefit...

excuses...

legal as in you can walk into a retail outlet and pay for marijuana take said marijuana hang it from your neck and go shake a cops hand...

thats pretty fucking legal...
Sounds pretty fucking regulated to me. And since Cali growers are still getting busted, only your definition of legal has materialized.

and the price remains the same.
And when it's legalized, you'll be undersold.

try again..
all you have is ad hominem.
And all you have is an argument with yourself.

mybe you will understand your proposed inverse relationship between legality and price is utter hogwash.

or you can continue to play ad hominem and semantics...
I think your pride is hogwash, considering you're suggesting pot will defy market forces. Call it what you will, you're just ignoring eventual reality.

BTW:
this is trim
BTW, the word was larf. That looks more like compost trash.


trim.JPG


this is buds
large_JNS.MarijuanaRaid4.jpg


GI-joe-thebattle.jpg

Googling again? Everything's a battle with you, dag.
 

dagnabit

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i mean are you trying to tell me if the feds said we could grow as much as we want that prices would remain 250-500...

yes and no..

top shelf yes

phillip morris schwag no

but this whole dream of "the feds telling us we could grow as much as we want"
is a fucking joke.
it ain't happening EVER!!
you know it and so do i

for fucks sake you cant even grow as many tomatoes as "you want" without running up against the feds and their regulations..


why does louis XIII cost $1300 and E&J cost $4?

so even if the imaginary free for all was realized..
small batch top shelf organic will fetch $500...

how do you not see this?

melon460_3.jpg


^^^^
a SIX THOUSAND DOLLAR WATERMELON!!!!!!!

watermelons are not illegal.

square-watermelon.jpg

^^^
$500

and there is nothing special 'bout square melons.
i have grown them for years.
any melon will do it.
BTW:
they are not illegal
 
i guess prices will never drop though..
since the federal government will never fully legalize.
we are signatory to the same UN resolution which prevents amsterdam and any other signatory from legalizing...

it's all moot (if you live in DB's black and white world)

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/convention_1988_en.pdf
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/treaties/illicit-trafficking.html


so no worries i guess?
:jerkit:

The United States has historically been a leader on the world war on drugs though, so if our stance changed maybe it would in other places that we give aid to as long as they vote the way we want with certain issues....
 
S

stickey fingers

blame game

blame game

i love when people play who shot jhon with cannabis, it's not the clubs that are
fucking things up, its your'e next door nieghbor :D
RIP DR JAY
 

DiscoBiscuit

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i guess prices will never drop though..
since the federal government will never fully legalize.

Well done. You didn't molest other comments to make your point.
IMO, your argument it's subjective reasoning.

Two definitives from the world according to dag:

the price of pot will never go down due to legalization

on the other hand, legalization will never happen... kind of makes your first argument moot.

we are signatory to the same UN resolution which prevents amsterdam and any other signatory from legalizing...

it's all moot (if you live in DB's black and white world)
IMO, legalization is far from black and white. But you go ahead and use the black/white arguments I made the last time you addressed your opinion as fact.
so no worries i guess?
:jerkit:
You guessed correct, no worries. I like the way tol expresses an opinion w/o reflecting over shite, masturbation and IQ level.

I never suggested you have to embrace what you're arguing against. You really don't have much to offer when you suggest that legal vs illegal pricing will be indifferent. That's why you get personal, because somebody disagrees with your opinion.
 

TruthOrLie

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when did you ever say anything 'bout greedy growers

backpedal.jpg

so you quote a post where I say I didn't realize you were capitalists...

man, you can keep defending MJ growers like they do something more special than tomato farmers, but they don't

the only reason a tomato farmer can make a living is because they can farm at a large scale to make a profit off of each item

When it comes to BEDROOM or even small WAREHOUSE marijuana growing... how many growers sell early pulled product, pest infested product, mold infested product, for the SAME price as those growers who take time to do it right.

The reason they get away with it? There is a huge market of users, medical and recreational, that just don't know no better.

There is a huge mark up in the MJ industry because of its illegal status. I don't care how many square or perfectly round watermelons you show me pictures of
 

TruthOrLie

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I have a question for the person who seems to know everything,if it so easy "anyone can do it". Why cant you grow enough so that you would have an overage to bring to the clubs/collectives.
Don't give the no space excuse. I live in a 10x10 and run 15 sq ft veg and 15 sq ft flower.
While you come up with excuses,I'm heading to the club with a couple of qps.

when did I ever say "anyone can do it" and what does how much I grow have anything to do with the fact that farming a tomato and farming a marijuana plant require the same conditions?

a rose requires DIFFERENT conditions, which is why I did not use a rose for comparison and instead chose tomatos, which thrive in the EXACT same conditions as MJ.
 

dagnabit

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That's why you get personal, because somebody disagrees with your opinion.
care to point it out?

you got personal i just pointed out the flaws in your logic..

$6000 for a melon
melons aint illegal

$1300 for congac
congac

$500 for AAA top shelf
even if it's legal..

nothing personal just facts ;)
 

TruthOrLie

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care to point it out?

you got personal i just pointed out the flaws in your logic..

$6000 for a melon
melons aint illegal

$1300 for congac
congac

$500 for AAA top shelf
even if it's legal..

nothing personal just facts ;)

how many MAN HOURS were put into the perfectly round melon?

how many MAN HOURS were put into that $1300 bottle of cognac?

how many MAN HOURS were put into that AAA top shelf, even if its legal?

How rare is the melon, the cognac, and the AAA top shelf?

Also, how much space does the melon, cognac, and AAA top shelf take up while its being produced?
 

dagnabit

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dagnabit

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how many MAN HOURS were put into the perfectly round melon?
no more than any other

how many MAN HOURS were put into that $1300 bottle of cognac?
no more than any other

how many MAN HOURS were put into that AAA top shelf, even if its legal?
a fuck load more than schwagg

How rare is the melon, the cognac, and the AAA top shelf?
these are wht determine their value...
not legal status

Also, how much space does the melon, cognac, and AAA top shelf take up while its being produced?
same as any other
(except square melons they take up less room)

BTW the $6000 melon has nothing to do with shape.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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care to point it out?

you got personal i just pointed out the flaws in your logic..

$6000 for a melon
melons aint illegal

$1300 for congac
congac

$500 for AAA top shelf
even if it's legal..

nothing personal just facts ;)

More subjective reasoning. Mellons and congac (I assume you mean cognac) aren't illegal.

Your cognac analogy might be more complete with prohibition vs repeal comparisons. The square, 6 grand mellon is the anomaly I've grown to expect when one splits the proverbial hair.

IMO, 6 grand mellons and $1300 booze isn't a market force-comparison when you insert illegal substance. It's more like an extreme avenue to compare non-like aspects.

I get the impression the comparisons you post aren't exactly flying off the shelves. Can you demand your own price? Certainly. I just don't think you'll be selling any of it when you're over priced.
 

TruthOrLie

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So you are comparing a bottle of cognac that has been aged in barrels for over 100 years to your AAA top shelf that you grew and cured in less than 6 months?

I wish I knew more about watermelons to poke holes in that comparison as well.

And yes, I already was aware of subsidies, even more proof to illustrate my point that MJ farmers make an unfair premium on their hard work... where a tomato farmer doesn't even make enough selling his thousands of tomatos... the government has to subsidize

I guess I should back out of this debate now, as I'm discussing this with someone who has close to 7000 posts.
 

dagnabit

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More subjective reasoning. Mellons and congac (I assume you mean cognac) aren't illegal.
mellons(i assume you meant melons ;) )
sell every day both cheap and expensive
cognac (even louis @ 1300 and my personal fave Martel cordon bleu @ $150) sell constantly.
every high end steak house has a bottle of each. they sell single snifters (1.5 oz) for $150.00


the rest is just redundancy of the first..
apply same response.
 
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