Is Nevilles Haze still the strongest haze?

[indifferent]

the bio ibo cut is the hy-pro cut. they gave it out and won many cups at the highlife events. i know hy-pro had a prob one year and a male got into the room and there were alot of seeds. the year they brought it to me they called it amnesia, as soon as i smoked it i knew it was a ssh. when i asked where they got it, they said they found a seed in some ssh buds they got from the gh.

I've lost track of how many times I've sat there while you identified various buds as SSH or A5, it really is everywhere!

So let me just get this straight:

There is a cut called Amnesia that comes from hy-pro, it is a SSH bagseed from the GH. Is this the indica leaning Amnesia that Soma crossed to the G13Haze and called it Amnesia Haze?

That would make hy-pro's Amnesia seeds S1s of an SSH pheno?

It's enough to make one's head hurt!

mrhaze, do you know anything about this Insomnia Haze cut I heard about?

 

[buddah]

@Buddah

If you want more informations about the amnesia haze , go on this link

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=144975

I think Moppel and Mr Haze420 said everything they knew about Amnesia/SSH in this thread ..

yehh bro i know the thread i was a info for doc beacuse he said i were a xx with NH

but yehh Mr haze tell us more about the NH...i am sure u know a lot about it!!

 

[buddah]

So let me just get this straight:

There is a cut called Amnesia that comes from hy-pro, it is a SSH bagseed from the GH. Is this the indica leaning Amnesia that Soma crossed to the G13Haze and called it Amnesia Haze?

That would make hy-pro's Amnesia seeds S1s of an SSH pheno?

It's enough to make one's head hurt!
?

exactly so Somas AH is an SSH x g13Haze(we guess)....but only soma knows witch male was used
and every Amnesia HAze u buy i a shop is a ssh.....what a great strain, isn't it!!

 

[indifferent]

Yeah, only Soma knows but it males sense that it was the g13Haze, especially as it came out at the same time as his other g13haze crosses.

It says something about the standards of breeding today when one of the most expensive and talked about lines (Amnesia Haze) is a cross of a bagseed (the SSH) to the only male found from some old seeds of a cross Neville declared unsuccessful.

Gee, whatever happened to selection from decent populations? I know it's hard to do under the current legal conditions, so I guess we will have to wait for a change in the legal situation for things to change much.

 

[Moppel]

i'm lmao here. This is the never ending story....

 

[indifferent]

It's making me giggle too! lol

One day it will get to the point where there is ssh in everything! lol

 

[daddy fingaz]

let me get this right cos id always thought that Amnesia had some NH in it, as did arjans ultra haze's, and that they were all genetically pretty close... im reading that the Hypro amnesia is actually a SSH pheno and is generally indica dom!?

All i know for sure is the cut (hypro) that DocLeaf speaks of is defo sativa/haze dom, buds are pure hazey in structure and smoke is tasty tasty indeed!

 

[SuperConductor]

I've grown the hypro (3 different females) and it's fairly indica, around 50% i'd say. Extra special tasting weed with interesting high and easy to grow, recommended.

 

[joaquin386]

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to think that a friend
of mine 40 years ago came up with a name that went on to
become an obsession. Is my statement a fact? How would i prove it? We didn't think about copywriting the name, but one of the partners did copy write the poster in '75, i guess that's evidence
that we were using the name long before most of your remarkable history lesson.

Happyhi,

How did you do it in the 70's in Santa Cruz (with the OHaze), Free pollination or just selected the best specimens (by looks or whatever) and then inbreed them?. In case you have the knowledge cause you said you where only growing.

Just learning the old ways.

 

[buddah]

let me get this right cos id always thought that Amnesia had some NH in it, as did arjans ultra haze's, and that they were all genetically pretty close... im reading that the Hypro amnesia is actually a SSH pheno and is generally indica dom!?

All i know for sure is the cut (hypro) that DocLeaf speaks of is defo sativa/haze dom, buds are pure hazey in structure and smoke is tasty tasty indeed!

mhh sativa but indica dom

 

[indifferent]

Looks lovely, that's definitely an NL dom pheno imho, out of the NL, Haze and Skunk that went into SSH, the NL was the one with the triches down the edges of the leaves live that.

I've been asking around about that Insomnia Haze and all I have found out so far is how it got the name - apparently the buzz is so long lasting and powerful you can't get any sleep. Sounds like the same kind of naming that inspired Amnesia - they were implying they had forgotten it's origins! lol

I dunno, the names people come up with these days!

Anyone got any pics of the Breeder Steve Sweet Skunk? it's supposed to be NL/Haze x Sweet Pink Grapefruit which makes it part of the Haze family, I hear if it's left 90-100 days it's amazing.

 

[Moppel]

Looks lovely, that's definitely an NL dom pheno imho, out of the NL, Haze and Skunk that went into SSH, the NL was the one with the triches down the edges of the leaves live that.

I've been asking around about that Insomnia Haze and all I have found out so far is how it got the name - apparently the buzz is so long lasting and powerful you can't get any sleep. Sounds like the same kind of naming that inspired Amnesia - they were implying they had forgotten it's origins! lol

I dunno, the names people come up with these days!

Anyone got any pics of the Breeder Steve Sweet Skunk? it's supposed to be NL/Haze x Sweet Pink Grapefruit which makes it part of the Haze family, I hear if it's left 90-100 days it's amazing.

i thought it was an urban myth, the story about the insomnia Haze....

Green supreme must have some pics of the sweet skunk.....btw i have a cut of it rooting

 

[indifferent]

Dunno, either the story i was told was about some Haze that gave them insomnia and sent them paranoid, half doo-lally or about an actual cut or....

it's an urban myth like half the stories I hear.

I'm not a betting man so I'm on the fence!

You never cease to surprise me mate, I read than the Sweet Skunk is a killer NL/Haze hybrid and within the hour you turn up with the cut!

 

[indifferent]

Has anyone done Indian Haze aka Haze Mist (Haze x South Indian Keralan) made by Sam Skunkman and sold by Seedsman/TFD?

 

[solarz]

i too have been after that Sweet Skunk cutting.....but everyone seems to be so tight with her. LOL. From what i can tell...a lot of our Northern Border brothers have access to the cut...

solarz

 

[indifferent]

It's supposed to be fairly common in vancouver. There are several seed versions, notably Island Sweet Skunk but I've read a few comments that it's inferior to the original cutting from Steve. Apparently they used NL/Haze plants from the same population the male Steve used to make the Sweet Skunk came from.

 

[JamieShoes]

I find too early nevs haze from a shop near me is exactly like the insomnia haze you speak of... shit has my mind turning somersaults til 7am ..lol


"ENOUGH ALREADY LET ME SLEEP DAMN YOU!"
....."no.."

 

[indifferent]

Hmm, so maybe 'Insomnia Haze' is a term for early sativa weed that has you doing your own head in in the early morning hours?

I've grown lots of sats like that, Trainwreck oil I made once had me awake for 4 days like a crackhead!

Then there was the time in Mexico i sat up all night scared alligators were coming to eat me.

I've been there, done that with insomnia.

But if it turns out there is an actual Insomnia Haze I'll give it a try should a cut find it;s way to my garden.

 

[SuperConductor]

lol what's the odds on it being another SSH pheno? A friend grew the indian haze liked it a lot, clear happy motivational high took 16-20 weeks iirc. He crossed it to a Kerala he picked up himself I've got seeds around here somehwere.

 

[indifferent]

Lol, yeah it will be early picked SSH!

Thanks for the info on the Indian Haze. I posted earlier that we know the Thai and Colombian aspects of the Haze quite well but don't seem to see so much of the Indian and Mexican sides. There are a few strains with the HazeMist name tacked on, I think GHS have some, but let's just say i can't see me growing any of their stuff until they are putting on wooly jumpers cos it's freezin down there in hell.

Did you grow out the Keralan x Indian Haze? That sounds like a very interesting line as Sam has said before that the native sativas of South India have mostly disappeared in their original form as they were in the 1970s, they are supposed to be similar to original Thai genes and those are gone as well so thinking about it, the Indian Haze could be worth running, there is Indian x Skunk as well.

I find it highly, highly ironic that the very cheapest seeds you can buy right now are Sam's Original Haze, Indian Haze and Haze Mix, for the princely sum of 10.22ukp at EDIT.

If I had the space to run em I'd buy 10 packs of all three of those just to explore the Haze genepool a bit. I mean, 300 Sam Skunkman seeds for just over 300 quid! I'd grab the Indian x Skunk, Hawaiian x Skunk, afghan, northern lights and hashplant, then I'd be all set to do some nice selections.

I said it was time for some fresh hybrids, due to loss of so many quality heirlooms and landraces over the last 30 years, it's sad that probably the best place to source the genes for new hybrids is old stuff Sam first worked with a long time ago.

Now if only I had a greenhouse somewhere with lots of sunlight and a long, warm growing season!