International Clone Only cuts in the UK

[ChaosCatalunya]

Anyone run greenhouses exodus cheese yet ?? Not the normal cheese that they produce for big Buddha but their exodus that they supposedly reversed

I've run it a few times this year and last and found it to be the best seed cheese I've ever seen ( from seed )

I appreciate this may sound ridiculous due to their rep but it's great, anyone else run it yet ?? And what did you think ??

Yes, friends have and like it, you are spot on, the first cheese they did was an afghan cross, like BB, then they sussed out how to reverse the exodus clone and now sell exodus S1 seeds. IIRC Kali man also has reversed the clone and also sells S1s.

Most of this "rep" shit flying around was from their ex partner and his buddies/random www forum arselickers trying to big up his own business and was repeated against almost everyone in the business. They are not perfect, but who is, lots of their stuff is very good and it's also cheap as chips. The Trainwreck is epic, currently got my 4th pack on order to add to an already well stocked mother room.

 

["HEMPEROR"]

uk blues,blues/livers,indiana bubblegum,pink bazooka,blue meanie,psychosis,88 jack h

uk blues,blues/livers,indiana bubblegum,pink bazooka,blue meanie,psychosis,88 jack h

10 days veg, off to a fast start
got the light on 400w and far away trying to get them to stretch a little before super cropping

indi bubblegum deffo no much of a brancher, gunna need some encouragement.

 

[zamzia]

What size tent is that Hemp?

 

["HEMPEROR"]

What size tent is that Hemp?

its a hydrolab 150 zam mate, ripping it down after this little test run and building a new room 6 gavita,s

 

[Terps]

make sure you got plenty of ventilation mate gavita's get bloody hot!

im gona swap them for the D-paps soon.

 

["HEMPEROR"]

make sure you got plenty of ventilation mate gavita's get bloody hot!

im gona swap them for the D-paps soon.

mmm cheerz maybe a rethink then as i aint got em yet. well i was gunna actually buy one for this^^ multi grow next week to replace the 600hps and see how that goes, so when you say hot do you mean the unit/balast and/or the bulb and shade? wots these d-paps and how they different? cheerz.
wot lighting would you put in 3m x 2.5m room? im running 2 acde shades without the the glass in the other tent but i aint crancked them up past 600w each yet, maybe 800w peak bloom but deffo not the full 1150w per light. hoping winter will allow it. my other option is i have 6 blockbusters i could use 4 of those with a 1000w in each and maybe 2x400w bare bulb m/h between them to make up for the glass filtering the uv? i notice a big difference in smell and resin when using aircooled as apposed to bare bulb. wot ya think? or can i get away with 4 gavitas in that ^^ space?

 

[zooty]

mmm cheerz maybe a rethink then as i aint got em yet. well i was gunna actually buy one for this^^ multi grow next week to replace the 600hps and see how that goes, so when you say hot do you mean the unit/balast and/or the bulb and shade? wots these d-paps and how they different? cheerz.
wot lighting would you put in 3m x 2.5m room? im running 2 acde shades without the the glass in the other tent but i aint crancked them up past 600w each yet, maybe 800w peak bloom but deffo not the full 1150w per light. hoping winter will allow it. my other option is i have 6 blockbusters i could use 4 of those with a 1000w in each and maybe 2x400w bare bulb m/h between them to make up for the glass filtering the uv? i notice a big difference in smell and resin when using aircooled as apposed to bare bulb. wot ya think? or can i get away with 4 gavitas in that ^^ space?

I think you'd get away with 4 x 1kw gavitas in winter, only if you have high ceilings though. Me personally i'd go with 7 x 600w's

 

[JamieShoes]

interesting comment about resin profile being different under bare bulbs vs behind glass.. I assume you mean the resin is better with a bare bulb? This is something to do with the plant producing more resin as a defense mechanism right? did you ever muck about with reptile lights or any of that to add extra uv? a lot of folk using MH as well to bring out different profiles... Chunky Pigs IC Cup winner this year was done under just MH and it was fkn caked in resin, fair play it almost didn't look real...

the other side of this though is that I always put my lamps as high as I can get them in the last 2 weeks so as not to damage the resin ... I guess I just can't make up my mind

 

["HEMPEROR"]

I think you'd get away with 4 x 1kw gavitas in winter, only if you have high ceilings though. Me personally i'd go with 7 x 600w's

yeh got pretty high ceilings so yep maybe thats the best option. thanks zoot

 

[Mate Dave]

Hemp have a look into E papillion lights they honestly make Gavita redundant.. I am not impressed with Gavita they are expensive and poorly made and not the horticultural industry standard.. Don't waste money bro.. If the grow gets turned over and you will never pull the money back I promise you... Regardless of ceiling height and whatever... Your best off with 600's they offer more footprint higher output at a more useful range and replacements are cheaper..

Can you put a proper fan in the house> If not stop right there.. Proper fan I mean one of these..https://www.airflow.com/productdetail_/pg_SA01/90000371.. I personally have done big grows.. I am a grower by definition... Don't try playing grower Hemp...


You will need about 7k to do your ventilation brother... How many bedroom house is it??

Jamie what controller you talking about got a pic or a model number??


Hemp your gonna need to use top of the line kit to make things better.. That means heat recovery units.. Solid acoustic ducting and Y branches, Phelum Box and a lung room to deal with the O-zone. You will need an O-Zone unit for a swimming pool and also need to have real deal climate control not those shitty Spc controllers, you want condensation traps and backdraft flaps and multiple carbon filters and wall mounted oscillation fans.. You got a mortgage to set up have you???

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

interesting comment about resin profile being different under bare bulbs vs behind glass.. I assume you mean the resin is better with a bare bulb? This is something to do with the plant producing more resin as a defense mechanism right? did you ever muck about with reptile lights or any of that to add extra uv? a lot of folk using MH as well to bring out different profiles... Chunky Pigs IC Cup winner this year was done under just MH and it was fkn caked in resin, fair play it almost didn't look real...

the other side of this though is that I always put my lamps as high as I can get them in the last 2 weeks so as not to damage the resin ... I guess I just can't make up my mind

I think it is UV.

I recall from keeping Reptiles that Glass filters one kind of UV, and Perspex another. (So if your lizard /snake is in a Perspex tank inside a glass window "all the good UV they need is filtered out" , so it is VIP to add supplemental UV.)

I have always believed that MH gives stronger weed, certainly a mix works great, but not sure I have ever run pure MH.

Many people I trust have reported that Led grown weed is better than the same cut under HPS, again, UV and possibly spectrum, as well as lower temps for the critical last week's not cooking off terpenes.

Yes I know that everyone from Sam Skunkman down has failed to produce any detectable improvement with supplemental UV, except when using the big halide in the sky. Favourite clones grown outdoor on a good year are notably stronger than indoor product from the same genetic. The difference is so marked that even the shttiest UK summer ever, rain daily from Sept 1, grew the best Swazi we ever saw, better than all our many runs inside.

Also, anyone remember hearing the old hippie stories about how weed from further up the hill was stronger? Less atmosphere travelled, less. UV is filtered out.

Who has been to Parvarti Valley, Kashmir etc or NepalNepal ? Opinions & experiences please...

 

["HEMPEROR"]

cheerz m dave might look into these. play at grower? plz dont get confused with my small tents mate. i was in the middle of 2 surgery,s so these were all i could manage, im now back to full health and going back to rooms i used to grow in. my inquiry is related to wot lights not how to use em, been growing 20 yrs pal.

 

["HEMPEROR"]

does anyone know wot hortilux schreders (HSO) are like? think there 600w 400v running philips greenpower bulbs. my bro who owns/runs a store has shitloads of recon units £120 a pop, just need new bulbs by the look of em., i may buy 2 of these and see how they go in the last small tent run.

http://www.hortilux.nl/product/hse-600-watt/

 

[JamieShoes]

I think it is UV.

I recall from keeping Reptiles that Glass filters one kind of UV, and Perspex another. (So if your lizard /snake is in a Perspex tank inside a glass window "all the good UV they need is filtered out" , so it is VIP to add supplemental UV.)

I have always believed that MH gives stronger weed, certainly a mix works great, but not sure I have ever run pure MH.

Many people I trust have reported that Led grown weed is better than the same cut under HPS, again, UV and possibly spectrum, as well as lower temps for the critical last week's not cooking off terpenes.

Yes I know that everyone from Sam Skunkman down has failed to produce any detectable improvement with supplemental UV, except when using the big halide in the sky. Favourite clones grown outdoor on a good year are notably stronger than indoor product from the same genetic. The difference is so marked that even the shttiest UK summer ever, rain daily from Sept 1, grew the best Swazi we ever saw, better than all our many runs inside.

Also, anyone remember hearing the old hippie stories about how weed from further up the hill was stronger? Less atmosphere travelled, less. UV is filtered out.

Who has been to Parvarti Valley, Kashmir etc or NepalNepal ? Opinions & experiences please...

thats the thing I'm talking about, thanks for the info.. I recently read about an new greenhouse standard LED array that you can program the spectrum to replicate anywhere in the world and you can set it to mimic gradual daylight hour changes... I'll see if I can find a link, was very interesting reading to those of who wonder about having more blue and uv in the flowering spectrum...

EDIT: here it is...

http://www.hortidaily.com/article/9657/LumiGrow-steers-LED-crop-lighting-solution-to-The-Netherlands

QUOTE:
"One of the key features of the LumiGrow LED solution is the patented SmartPAR light management service, which enables a grower to automatically customize greenhouse lighting based on a variety of factors including region, climate, crop type and desired crop characteristics. "

 

[JamieShoes]

Hemp have a look into E papillion lights they honestly make Gavita redundant.. I am not impressed with Gavita they are expensive and poorly made and not the horticultural industry standard.. Don't waste money bro.. If the grow gets turned over and you will never pull the money back I promise you... Regardless of ceiling height and whatever... Your best off with 600's they offer more footprint higher output at a more useful range and replacements are cheaper..

Can you put a proper fan in the house> If not stop right there.. Proper fan I mean one of these..https://www.airflow.com/productdetail_/pg_SA01/90000371.. I personally have done big grows.. I am a grower by definition... Don't try playing grower Hemp...


You will need about 7k to do your ventilation brother... How many bedroom house is it??

Jamie what controller you talking about got a pic or a model number??


Hemp your gonna need to use top of the line kit to make things better.. That means heat recovery units.. Solid acoustic ducting and Y branches, Phelum Box and a lung room to deal with the O-zone. You will need an O-Zone unit for a swimming pool and also need to have real deal climate control not those shitty Spc controllers, you want condensation traps and backdraft flaps and multiple carbon filters and wall mounted oscillation fans.. You got a mortgage to set up have you???

ello Mate

it looks like this... s2 kindly told me I can "stick a plug on it and it's good to go"... unfortunately, I still can't quite wrap my weed addled mind around it...hopefully he's gonna see if he can get a pic of his to show me in case it helps.. if I told you I was the least practical person you ever met, I wouldn't be far off ..lol

 

[Mate Dave]

I'm not taking the piss, Just concerned.. What I mean is think like a grower Hemp, I don't care how long you been growing..If you want optimum the cost of bulbs will hurt.

Experience talks and bullshit walks.. what do you grow Just weed I take it

It shows dude that you have done this before... I am glad you have recovered.. Injures suck. I had a car crash last year and had to take down a 45 light grow...

Tents are not rooms Hemp, how a light behaves in a tent is different to a room there will be no comparison unless the room is set up like a tent...

Can't wait to see you smashing it out again happy days bro.. Onwards and upwards...

 

[Mate Dave]

I think all this,, it was different grown like this is nonsense but holds water. Because when you can grow to a consistent standard your weed will be the same every grow.. Stop playing about and run a cycle and the thing will get better and better until it max's out at the very very good. I don't know many growers who are as consistent as I am..

Enviroment = phenotype... That is how it works... You take a Parvati and grow it in a tent it will look like the provenance but won't have the minerals... That is is the fundamental... You can't replicate sun or anything HPS is the king of horticultural lamps... All else is just for show and tell.. That breaks both rules of growing number 1 and number 2...

 

["HEMPEROR"]

Hemp have a look into E papillion lights they honestly make Gavita redundant.. I am not impressed with Gavita they are expensive and poorly made and not the horticultural industry standard.. Don't waste money bro.. If the grow gets turned over and you will never pull the money back I promise you... Regardless of ceiling height and whatever... Your best off with 600's they offer more footprint higher output at a more useful range and replacements are cheaper..

Can you put a proper fan in the house> If not stop right there.. Proper fan I mean one of these..https://www.airflow.com/productdetail_/pg_SA01/90000371.. I personally have done big grows.. I am a grower by definition... Don't try playing grower Hemp...


You will need about 7k to do your ventilation brother... How many bedroom house is it??

Jamie what controller you talking about got a pic or a model number??


Hemp your gonna need to use top of the line kit to make things better.. That means heat recovery units.. Solid acoustic ducting and Y branches, Phelum Box and a lung room to deal with the O-zone. You will need an O-Zone unit for a swimming pool and also need to have real deal climate control not those shitty Spc controllers, you want condensation traps and backdraft flaps and multiple carbon filters and wall mounted oscillation fans.. You got a mortgage to set up have you???

fuck that i think ill run 6 1000w blockbusters, i already have em, mite buy 2 or 3 d-paps just to top up on the blue/daylight spectrum.
i used to pull 130 zips in this room and no big gizmo,s needed except my portable aircon i have in the garage. 4 x 1000w blockbusters and a 12" fan and filter plus 600w bare bulb halide in the middle.

 

[mack 10]

That's a nice room. What strain us it? Looks chunky.

 

["HEMPEROR"]

That's a nice room. What strain us it? Looks chunky.

local blue cheese cut mack mate. stung your eyes when trimming lol