Info on Todd McCormick Original Haze

[unnamedmike]

I already shared my (bad) experience with the strain that Todd calls original haze, but every photo and comment was deleted, and I was banned, so I don't usually contribute to this forum. Likewise, you don't have to go very far from this thread to compare what Todd sells with a real ohaze like THH, Seedsman or Golly.

 

[Dirt Life]

I remember what you got from Todd's Haze... a bunch of BLD herms.. didn't know you were banned for your opinion on your grow/Todds Haze, though... that's not right. I appreciate everyone's experience... good or bad.

 

[Week 4]

I remember what you got from Todd's Haze... a bunch of BLD herms.. didn't know you were banned for your opinion on your grow/Todds Haze, though... that's not right. I appreciate everyone's experience... good or bad.

I thought for a day that I had gotten a hermed plant a week into flower. but had forgotten these are regular seeds. So it was just revealing it's sex. I was really embarrassed to find that out after crying about a hermed plant on the forums.

 

[Dirt Life]

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It's all good, buddy! Hermies suck a fat one.. although I've smoked some really great bud that had slight hermaphrodite tendencies and was outstanding...

I've seen the skunk plants you're growing, and they look great, Week 4!

 

[LostTribe]

I already shared my (bad) experience with the strain that Todd calls original haze, but every photo and comment was deleted, and I was banned, so I don't usually contribute to this forum. Likewise, you don't have to go very far from this thread to compare what Todd sells with a real ohaze like THH, Seedsman or Golly.

I'll add that the only one of these currently readily available to the public is ag seed co. Your singular experience does not have to be the end all be all. How many packs did you run? I ran out an entire pack. I have 3 remaining.

 

[LostTribe]

I did not find a single hermaphroditic pollen sack on any of these.

 

[unnamedmike]

I'll add that the only one of these currently readily available to the public is ag seed co. Your singular experience does not have to be the end all be all. How many packs did you run? I ran out an entire pack. I have 3 remaining.

Good for you buddy. In fact, I already answered this before, but the forum admins deleted it, ask them, I'm not going to waste my time again.

 

[EExtinct]

I bought a 50 pack of these about a month ago. Dont know if im ready for long ride so theyre in the fridge for now. I do have Bandaid haze 7 and Cuban black haze starting flower to hold me off

 

[RingtailCanyon]

I grew a ten pack of Todd’s original haze. Due to all the hate he gets from the forum experts, I feel a responsibility to say that there was no herms, no broad leaves, no narcs, no skunks, no drama.
They were the real deal and all you haters should be ashamed of yourselves. And he was super easy to deal with and answered my questions promptly and accurately. I have a hundred pack now.

 

[TyroneShoelace]

I bought a 10 pack a few years ago and popped 2 just to see what I found. Both germinated with vigor and health. I just finished flowering the first sibling and am extremely happy with the experience.

I took the plant in staggered harvests starting at week 14 and I will be plucking the last buds on Sunday which will mark 18 full weeks.

Before this, my longest flowering plant was a Mango Haze, which I took at 12 weeks. But to be honest, this plant, even after just a couple weeks in the jar, absolutely blows the Mango out of the water in terms of quality of effect. The Mango may be objectively more potent, but it’s foggier, has a ceiling, builds a tolerance, and gives a bit of a hangover when overused. This first OHaze is so bright and happy. It makes me motivated to go outside and move. It’s a day brightener. The fact that I still have 9 left to explore makes me excited to get the second one into flower.

I have set aside jars of each harvest that will be locked away for 3 and 6 months to assess the fully cured effects. But even after just a few weeks in the jar I know this is special herb that I will be holding for a while.

 

[EExtinct]

I bought a 10 pack a few years ago and popped 2 just to see what I found. Both germinated with vigor and health. I just finished flowering the first sibling and am extremely happy with the experience.

I took the plant in staggered harvests starting at week 14 and I will be plucking the last buds on Sunday which will mark 18 full weeks.

Before this, my longest flowering plant was a Mango Haze, which I took at 12 weeks. But to be honest, this plant, even after just a couple weeks in the jar, absolutely blows the Mango out of the water in terms of quality of effect. The Mango may be objectively more potent, but it’s foggier, has a ceiling, builds a tolerance, and gives a bit of a hangover when overused. This first OHaze is so bright and happy. It makes me motivated to go outside and move. It’s a day brightener. The fact that I still have 9 left to explore makes me excited to get the second one into flower.

I have set aside jars of each harvest that will be locked away for 3 and 6 months to assess the fully cured effects. But even after just a few weeks in the jar I know this is special herb that I will be holding for a while.

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These are from Todd Mccormicks original haze?

 

[ojd]

I bought a 10 pack a few years ago and popped 2 just to see what I found. Both germinated with vigor and health. I just finished flowering the first sibling and am extremely happy with the experience.

I took the plant in staggered harvests starting at week 14 and I will be plucking the last buds on Sunday which will mark 18 full weeks.

Before this, my longest flowering plant was a Mango Haze, which I took at 12 weeks. But to be honest, this plant, even after just a couple weeks in the jar, absolutely blows the Mango out of the water in terms of quality of effect. The Mango may be objectively more potent, but it’s foggier, has a ceiling, builds a tolerance, and gives a bit of a hangover when overused. This first OHaze is so bright and happy. It makes me motivated to go outside and move. It’s a day brightener. The fact that I still have 9 left to explore makes me excited to get the second one into flower.

I have set aside jars of each harvest that will be locked away for 3 and 6 months to assess the fully cured effects. But even after just a few weeks in the jar I know this is special herb that I will be holding for a while.

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Looks great , but is this Pure Original Haze ? , looks like a Haze hybrid ?, and is it not the Nevil Haze x Original Haze that Tod was selling as pure Original Haze in the beginning as shown by hempy on 1st post ? , I know Tod changed that description later on ?

Anyway looks nice either way

 

[ojd]

Honestly not trying to hate , but this looks far from a pure Original Haze, defo looks hybrid, heavy Sativa leaning for sure, looks great though , just Pure Original Haze really ?

Early 2000's flying dutchman Haze were zero phenos like that, in F2's or other Haze hybrids I made with it either as I run them for next few years

 

[@hempy]

Before this, my longest flowering plant was a Mango Haze, which I took at 12 weeks. But to be honest, this plant, even after just a couple weeks in the jar, absolutely blows the Mango out of the water in terms of quality of effect. The Mango may be objectively more potent, but it’s foggier, has a ceiling, builds a tolerance, and gives a bit of a hangover when overused.

I haven't grown the modern version of the MH, but the original Mango Haze F1s test seed all flowered from 16 weeks and up some close to or just over 20 from seed. They had no ceiling to the high but like all hybrids including Haze selections is key.

A good Mango Haze will smoke as strong as the best Nevil Haze or Haze.

 

[@hempy]

Here is a post by Sam from Cannabis World 20 or more years ago.

So 20 to 25 years ago Original Haze sold by others were at lest F10s or well over now this is odd as I thought Sam was the only one that supplied seed retailers Original Haze seed back then.

Regardless, the Flying Dutchman's Haze (Original Haze) I saw people growing 20/25 years ago looked very different to what I see being grown now.

Here is a Tip from Sam.

I agree 100% with Sam, all the keepers I have found were always the longest flowering plants

 

[harvestreaper]

my 2p,,if we go on appearance alone then for me only macs show to be the same as the first hazes I saw in 80s as to appearing pure ,,im a fan of both todds and toms haze offerings and I have bred females from both lines ,,its easy to see the arguments that in appearance todds could hold nl genes and appears somewhat like the Neville hazes weve seen ,,for me I also cannot unsee the sk in thh it amazes me that many cant see it I put it down to age and experience ,my opinion is only an opinion and you know what they say about opinions lol ,,again im a fan of both lines ,,when it comes to flo times there all around the same when it comes to yield first thh,, second todds ,,third macs is this because of crosses ?,,could be ,,but we cant prove it ,,so take them as they are offered if your interested and if you find something you like its a win ,,personally I would have to hear from sam that either line is crossed as hes the only person who seen thousands of plants from the original haze genepool as to the various uncrossed phenos possible were as the rest of us are restricted by somewhat limited stereotypes via a very few releases that were later inbred which is were my own observations are formed from ,, ive crossed both todds and toms back to macs lines and am enjoying going thru the prodigy, if theyre crosses ive taken em back purer to haze if there not there nice haze hybrid lines and as long as I like what they produce ill keep em going either way because a good haze of any line will get you up an dancing lol

ps for the record i did get some hermis in my stock from todd zero from thh and macs

todd female x mac male

warning haze can induce paranoia and oversensitivity

 

[@hempy]

arguments that in appearance todds could hold nl genes and appears somewhat like the Neville hazes weve seen ,,for me I also cannot unsee the sk in thh it amazes me that many cant see it I put it down to age and experience ,my opinion is only an opinion and you know what they say about opinions lol ,

I never saw any Nevils Haze express NL, if they had, I would have culled them and moved on.

I can only go by the seed I grew and continue to grow from seed I made from those plants.

I don't see Original Haze plants now like the early Flying Dutchman types they were very Thai like were not Original Haze seems to flower much faster and look more Colombian.

These are your typical Nevils Haze flowered under 11/13

Different plant flowering under 7/17 that was fully seeded.

 

[harvestreaper]

I never saw any Nevils Haze express NL, if they had, I would have culled them and moved on.

I can only go by the seed I grew and continue to grow from seed I made from those plants.

I don't see Original Haze plants now like the early Flying Dutchman types they were very Thai like were not Original Haze seems to flower much faster and look more Colombian.

These are your typical Nevils Haze flowered under 11/13

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Different plant flowering under 7/17 that was fully seeded.

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last time i checked nevilles haze was 25% nl5,,, nl5 i belive also carries thai ,,,i think your top left pic an bottom right show its influence structurally as to a diffrence to traditionally pure haze types ,,like i said hempy its simply my opinion on the appearance of todds stuff

 

[@hempy]

last time i checked nevilles haze was 25% nl5,,, nl5 i belive also carries thai ,,,i think your top left pic an bottom right show its influence structurally as to a diffrence to traditionally pure haze types ,,like i said hempy its simply my opinion on the appearance of todds stuff

The Mother of Nevils haze is the 5HzA (not the clone getting around) so yes it does be it a small %, but I actually dislike NL and if I picked up even a small % of it in the high, I would have canned it like I did the SSH.

What you see in the top pick are the two sides of Haze used being the HzA and the HzC the Colombian and Thai sides.

Top left is the Colombian side of Nevil Haze, bottom right is a fully seeded Thai.

Close up of the Thai.

 

[@hempy]

I have been experimenting with flower times for a few years now and came up with some very interesting finding.