Info on The Real Seed Company?

[yesum]

This is the Laos 4 trippy or all in the head and intense pheno. I have another pheno that has a bit more weight and frost to it, and a lot of dark pistils. Better looking but not what I am after, more of a standard high.

This is the top of the plant and I am revegging the bottom. It has a few new leaves so I will take a clone when I can from it. I can blow on this 4 inch section of the top from the side, and it will fly across the table. It weighs almost nothing.

Aside from being a High Times 1977 bud of the year in looks, it has the vibe from back then too. It can be a bit nervous in nature but not negative at all. Just some jitters now and then I guess. It has that weird feeling to it. Where am I? Lost in space feeling.

 

[Chi13]

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This is the Laos 4 trippy or all in the head and intense pheno. I have another pheno that has a bit more weight and frost to it, and a lot of dark pistils. Better looking but not what I am after, more of a standard high.

This is the top of the plant and I am revegging the bottom. It has a few new leaves so I will take a clone when I can from it. I can blow on this 4 inch section of the top from the side, and it will fly across the table. It weighs almost nothing.

Aside from being a High Times 1977 bud of the year in looks, it has the vibe from back then too. It can be a bit nervous in nature but not negative at all. Just some jitters now and then I guess. It has that weird feeling to it. Where am I? Lost in space feeling.

Interesting and thanks for posting.

Laos that I smoked in Laos did not have a lost in space feeling at all. It was rocket ship take off, pure euphoria, happy with no paranoia, intense and also functional. Thai Stick like, but without the paranoia and trippyness if that makes sense. I wonder which (if any) of the Laos available now has that effect? Maybe a cure has something to do with it? I'm also starting to wonder if the cure, and/or the compression of the buds has some major effect on the finished high?

 

[TheDarkStorm]

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This is the Laos 4 trippy or all in the head and intense pheno. I have another pheno that has a bit more weight and frost to it, and a lot of dark pistils. Better looking but not what I am after, more of a standard high.

This is the top of the plant and I am revegging the bottom. It has a few new leaves so I will take a clone when I can from it. I can blow on this 4 inch section of the top from the side, and it will fly across the table. It weighs almost nothing.

Aside from being a High Times 1977 bud of the year in looks, it has the vibe from back then too. It can be a bit nervous in nature but not negative at all. Just some jitters now and then I guess. It has that weird feeling to it. Where am I? Lost in space feeling.

Nice find yesum.....your right very reminiscent of some of the 70's laos thai types....good job.....and good work and a great find by "the real seed co".....shows that with some searching in the right seeds some good old school stuff can still be found......im sure if someone put some time in to working these and found some male/males to match the good females they could probably pressure their own line of these that they could get even stronger very quickly in a few generations.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Interesting and thanks for posting.

Laos that I smoked in Laos did not have a lost in space feeling at all. It was rocket ship take off, pure euphoria, happy with no paranoia, intense and also functional. Thai Stick like, but without the paranoia and trippyness if that makes sense. I wonder which (if any) of the Laos available now has that effect? Maybe a cure has something to do with it? I'm also starting to wonder if the cure, and/or the compression of the buds has some major effect on the finished high?

i bet if you go back to laos , you will find something the same or similar today ,
and definitely the cure and compression has a major effect on the high ,
as does set and setting and tolerance , particularly to that specific cannabinoid profile ...

 

[funkyhorse]

The buds I smoked in Sinai were similar looking to the ones Yesum shows
As expected, the Israel 90s grown at the neighboring Negev desert probably by beduoins and sold as "Lebanese" by Ace Seeds it is very similar to Sinai in looks and growth pattern

Seeds were sprouted a few days before spring equinox

Description​

Genetics: Traditional Sinai Domesticate (“Landrace”)
Sourcing: The Real Seed Company, Sinai, Egypt, 1990 – 1997
Purpose: Hashish (sieved resin) or bud
Latitude: 29° N
Regional Harvest: September
Height: 0.6 – 1.8 metres
Aroma: Unique tangy rose, hashy Indica notes
Characteristics: Early maturing, semi-autoflowering, hardy, unique terpenes, Indica- and Sativa-type morphology
Classification: C. sativa subsp. indica var. afghanica x C. sativa subsp. indica var. indica
Grow Type: Outdoors, greenhouse, or indoors
Accessions of this Sinai strain were collected in the mountains of Egypt between 1990 and 1997. This domesticate exhibits unique terpenes, a special high, and sought-after Indica-type plants. This is a fast-flowering plant that can show day-neutral (‘semi-autoflowering’) traits.
Indica-type expressions range from 0.6 to 1.5 metres and have a compact Christmas-tree profile. Sativa-type plants range 1.3 to 1.8 metres and have a trainable ‘vine’ habit with prolific branching. Both types express a unique rose scent, with Indica types intensely pungent during vegetative growth but developing tangy ‘Turkish delight’ aromas during flower. Buds grow in a foxtail structure, are reasonably airy, and are resinous. Buds of Indica-type plants are less leafy and more dense.
This Sinai domesticate is very hardy due to the demanding conditions in Egypt’s mountains, which range from 50°c and high humidity in summer to dry, freezing conditions in winter. Cultivation by Bedouin in the wadi is basic, occasionally using mud brought in from the Nile, but usually only camel dung.
The high from Sinai is distinctive, with a medicating and blissful effect. A customer writes, “the Sinai strain is wonderful, nothing in the local dispensaries can compare. Very good for depression / anxiety and pain.”
Domesticates native to Sinai share more traits with strains found to the north in the Middle East, which is the direction from which they originally diffused out of Central Asia, than with those found to the south in Sub-Saharan Africa.
A proportion of plants will exhibit CBD. A standout specimen tested in Holland exhibited 16% THC and 1.5% CBD.

Some things I disagree and dont match real life experience like Sinai being high humidity in summer but it is not important, what is important are the plants
All plants be it Ace's Israel 90s "Lebanese" and Sinai are around the same height, Israel 90s a little taller, all grown in 5 liter pots.
I sourced the Israel 90s seed when it was just released it and I am lucky to have the first release and not the latest tamed tweaked version making it photoperiod and indoor adaptable. When you do this shit it stops being Israel 90s, Lebanese or whatever bullshit you want to name it and it becomes something else. The spirit and identity of the strain is lost.
I am not a fan of modern breeding but I understand these are the demands of modern growers looking to grow a name and not the real thing. This shit is not for indoors
I guess feeding and good soil help a lot on productivity, because these buds are much more fat than what I sourced in real life
Israel 90s came always very seeded and they came in the stick. Buds were not removed from the stem and in the 100grams newspaperbag you get the buds on the stems plus a lot of seed.
In Sinai it was also seeded but a little bit, not as much

These 2 strains were the first time I sourced buds in bud form and not brick
Sinai in real life was a couple of levels better. Some batches were creeper high weed and it was the best landrace of the Middle east
Israel 90s came out immediately after the Gulf War I. I call it Saddam weed and it never was creeper high but it wasnt that bad. It was a nice 90 min high which was made much nicer when you were rolling some Manali charas together with it
I have no clue if this Israel 90s stock is still available and it is still being grown today. Israel developed a cannabis industry so I doubt it
In Sinai it is still being grown

This is La Niña year and it is the driest season in the last 40 years and it will continue until beginning april so this is a chance to grow this and finnish it without rot
I have 2 phenos from Sinai. The foxtail pheno which is not a vine at all and the chunky pheno which is the only smelly plant and it is a pungent smell I never smelt before, very different
Sinai foxtail pheno, 1st picture lower bud and next is the top shot

Sinai foxtail in the back and Lebanese chunly in front

For comparison Israel 90s foxtail pheno. The only difference I see is Israel 90s is a little bit more resistant to aphids and a little bit more resinous too

Sinai chunky pheno. The only smelly plant. Ants live on this plant but dont pray on her. This one is also the most attacked by aphids but they are not getting deep on the buds. This one is the fastest

Sinai chunky front Israel 90s foxtail pheno in the back

Israel 90s chunky pheno for comparison.

I hope they smoke similar to the weed I sourced in the 90s. It would be a very interesting alchemy
Have a nice weekend everybody

 

[aliceklar]

Growing out RSC's Highland Thai for the second time, in 4l pots of coco and light on the nutes. I grew 3 plants from a pack of 5 on the first run a few years ago, got 1 female and two males, and made seed that I'm now growing out, alongside the 4th and 5th of the original pack. They were sickly in small pots of compost, but much happier this run in coco with liquid nutrients. Its possible to keep them indoors so long as you train them (top/scrog/supercrop etc) and they are very resilient. The range of phenos I'm seeing is diverse in terms of bud-formation, ranging from spindly spires to stouter long fat colas or hand-grenade buds. They all share a distinctive ginger-spice-musky-citric smell, but there are variations in the terps too, some stronger, sweeter or stinkier, with off-fruit smells. The very fat -budded one (P2.12) must be an outlier - it was a late-germinating runt I nearly culled. Anway, lots here for pheno-hunters.

Pics taken at end of week 7 / start week 8 flowering under 11/13.

 

[yesum]

The Laos 4 I talked about above has been 'curing' for 8 days now and is a bit tamer in effect. Still trippy but not quite as intense and rollercoaster. More enjoyable now. I will let it sit out in a baggie for a few more weeks but do not expect a change or much of one.

 

[Donald Mallard]

The buds I smoked in Sinai were similar looking to the ones Yesum shows
As expected, the Israel 90s grown at the neighboring Negev desert probably by beduoins and sold as "Lebanese" by Ace Seeds it is very similar to Sinai in looks and growth pattern

Seeds were sprouted a few days before spring equinox

Some things I disagree and dont match real life experience like Sinai being high humidity in summer but it is not important, what is important are the plants
All plants be it Ace's Israel 90s "Lebanese" and Sinai are around the same height, Israel 90s a little taller, all grown in 5 liter pots.
I sourced the Israel 90s seed when it was just released it and I am lucky to have the first release and not the latest tamed tweaked version making it photoperiod and indoor adaptable. When you do this shit it stops being Israel 90s, Lebanese or whatever bullshit you want to name it and it becomes something else. The spirit and identity of the strain is lost.
I am not a fan of modern breeding but I understand these are the demands of modern growers looking to grow a name and not the real thing. This shit is not for indoors
I guess feeding and good soil help a lot on productivity, because these buds are much more fat than what I sourced in real life
Israel 90s came always very seeded and they came in the stick. Buds were not removed from the stem and in the 100grams newspaperbag you get the buds on the stems plus a lot of seed.
In Sinai it was also seeded but a little bit, not as much

These 2 strains were the first time I sourced buds in bud form and not brick
Sinai in real life was a couple of levels better. Some batches were creeper high weed and it was the best landrace of the Middle east
Israel 90s came out immediately after the Gulf War I. I call it Saddam weed and it never was creeper high but it wasnt that bad. It was a nice 90 min high which was made much nicer when you were rolling some Manali charas together with it
I have no clue if this Israel 90s stock is still available and it is still being grown today. Israel developed a cannabis industry so I doubt it
In Sinai it is still being grown

This is La Niña year and it is the driest season in the last 40 years and it will continue until beginning april so this is a chance to grow this and finnish it without rot
I have 2 phenos from Sinai. The foxtail pheno which is not a vine at all and the chunky pheno which is the only smelly plant and it is a pungent smell I never smelt before, very different
Sinai foxtail pheno, 1st picture lower bud and next is the top shot
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Sinai foxtail in the back and Lebanese chunly in front
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For comparison Israel 90s foxtail pheno. The only difference I see is Israel 90s is a little bit more resistant to aphids and a little bit more resinous too
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Sinai chunky pheno. The only smelly plant. Ants live on this plant but dont pray on her. This one is also the most attacked by aphids but they are not getting deep on the buds. This one is the fastest
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Sinai chunky front Israel 90s foxtail pheno in the back
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Israel 90s chunky pheno for comparison.
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I hope they smoke similar to the weed I sourced in the 90s. It would be a very interesting alchemy
Have a nice weekend everybody

the third picture from the bottom looks like it has a big outbreak of spider mites on her funky,
you should try to magnify some of the leaf and check them out ,
several others look like they have similar leaf damage that could also be from mites ,
they lessen the health of the plants and their ability to fight off other disease and problems while sucking the sap and literally the life out of them ,
definitely worth checking out as it could increase the overall health of your plants in the future if you can get rid of the little buggers ...
maybe its powdery mildew , but from where im sitting it looks like spider mites ..

 

[funkyhorse]

the third picture from the bottom looks like it has a big outbreak of spider mites on her funky,
you should try to magnify some of the leaf and check them out ,
several others look like they have similar leaf damage that could also be from mites ,
they lessen the health of the plants and their ability to fight off other disease and problems while sucking the sap and literally the life out of them ,
definitely worth checking out as it could increase the overall health of your plants in the future if you can get rid of the little buggers ...
maybe its powdery mildew , but from where im sitting it looks like spider mites ..
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Master Wally
What you are seeing is a festival of powdery mildew with plenty of aphids added to the show, ants walking around very happy, some strange new beings partying on the fan leaf I never saw before I should try tomorrow morning to do an upclose
It is not amazing at all spiders thrive there too

In my environment what I am seeing is some plants act as pest attractors. They choose some plants over others. This plant you are showing is their favourite one! I am impressed ants are not chewing on them.

 

[Donald Mallard]

a bit of lime sulphur would probably treat all those problems and the mites too ,
but you would have to do it every few days for a while and then always be checking for further infestations ,
if the plants dont have anything attacking them and are nice and healthy , they can fend of some pest and disease on their own ...
i use it on my chili bushes for mites , and noted it did treat pm and aphids also ,
she stinks a bit though so not sure it would be great for flowering plants .....

 

[xtsho]

I've grown out a few of RSC's offerings.

Here's a Sinai. I grew several of them for a seed run and I crossed it with a PCK/Durban cross I had been working on for a few years.

Not all the same plant.

One had some variagation when it was young on a few leaves. It went away.

Here's the Sinai cross I made with what I call Durbistan which is a PCK/Durban cross I took to F7. It turned out pretty good. I also crossed this with a Durban Poison I got from a different source but haven't grown any of those yet. It's a pretty good yielder and heavier feeder than I thought. I just grew them in 3 gallon pots of recycled soil and I ended up with some yellowing. I had to wrap the stems with tape so they didn't split. I've had that happen in the past so I was proactive with these plants.

 

[RobFromTX]

Has anyone ran the Bliss yet? Cinderella 99 x Strawberry Cough sounds amazing

Bliss (Strawberry Cough x Cinderella 99) - Kwik Seeds

Genetics: Strawberry Cough x Cinderella 99 Type: Sativa-dom Yield: Above average Indoors: 8 weeks Strawberry Cough and Cinderella 99 are two of Whish Seeds’ favorite plants to work with. A Sativa-lover’s dream, Bliss displays favorite qualities from each parent. Reliable...Read more

kwikseeds.com

 

[brickweeder]

I've grown out a few of RSC's offerings.

Here's a Sinai.

How about a smoke report on the RSC Sinai?

 

[funkyhorse]

I am lucky this is La Niña year and there is draught. While all food producers complain, Sinai girls are happy about that and they could finnish in this environment
Forecast for next year seems to be El Niño year and this means floods at this part of the planet so the next grow will be on the next La Niña year for this strain

The plant cant hold the weight of the buds which are airy fluffy and not chunky
This one is very smelly but her sister which will be harvested next week is not smelly at all and is full foxtails
Around 5 months from seed to harvest
Full plant

Top shot

Lowers

Have a healthy and peaceful week

 

[FletchF.Fletch]

Dakshinkali.

 

[funkyhorse]

Sinai girl 2
I wonder if this extreme foxtailing is the plant response to light stress to the strong southern hemisphere sun
Anybody in the northern hemisphere has got Sinai buds like this?

Have a nice weekend everybody

 

[Old Piney]

Sinai buds like this?

Wow Sinai is on my list to grow this season So I'm curious and have a few questions if you don't mind .Was this plant started inside for much time and then planted out and if so how many hours of light was it getting? This is the plant now as your days get shorter? Do you have other Sinai plant that are doing this as well?

 

[alvin88]

Hey yall super excited to join ya. I use to grow commercially and switched fields, got super burnt out on growing. But now I'm ready to have fun with some cool genetics!

I just ordered some Afghaan 90, Deep Chunk, Sudanese, and Serbian.

Anyone grown the latter two? I just got them for fun and maybe play with some seeds.

 

[Lebanizer]

Hey yall super excited to join ya. I use to grow commercially and switched fields, got super burnt out on growing. But now I'm ready to have fun with some cool genetics!

I just ordered some Afghaan 90, Deep Chunk, Sudanese, and Serbian.

Anyone grown the latter two? I just got them for fun and maybe play with some seeds.

Serbian ?

 

[Old Piney]

Serbian ?

To me seems a good place to start to breed your own auto’s